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Bogie Shooter 03-10-2016 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Diver (Post 1196938)
For your information The Villages Golf Cars is not owned by the developer.
So, who is the owner?

twoplanekid 03-10-2016 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Diver (Post 1196938)
For your information The Villages Golf Cars is not owned by the developer.
From their web site -> © Holding Company of The Villages, Inc., 2016. All Rights Reserved. The Villages is a registered trademark of Holding Company of The Villages, Inc.

then looking up -> Holding Company of The Villages -> Holding Company of The Villages, Inc. in The Villages FL - Company Profile

Mark G. Morse - Director Jennifer Parr - Director

Challenger 03-10-2016 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1196928)
I am sure all the shennigans like this are legal, however if one had the time and the money I think a good attorney could make something out of conflicts of interest in and by TV.

I know they own the paper but it just seems not right to DISCRIMINATE people willing to pay the price of advertizing.
Thank heavens , discrimination is not illegal in the US except in a few specific instances ie: sex, age religious preference etc. I don't think we want to begin to go down the path of further limiting the freedom of choice about how one runs his own business unless it brings harm on a class of people who need protection.

twoplanekid 03-10-2016 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Challenger (Post 1196969)
Thank heavens , discrimination is not illegal in the US except in a few specific instances ie: sex, age religious preference etc. I don't think we want to begin to go down the path of further limiting the freedom of choice about how one runs his own business unless it brings harm on a class of people who need protection.
The question for me in the Villages is when private policy becomes public policy. When does a business overtly change the public policies of governmental agencies? It can become a sticky wicket. I am not sure this particular event falls in that category.

ukbill70 03-10-2016 06:28 PM
if it is true that vendor's from outside the Villages are not allowed to attend then the answer is simple. look at the inside vendor's displays but buy outside. They will soon get the message. I repeat If It's True.

graciegirl 03-10-2016 09:37 PM
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raynitsche 03-10-2016 10:15 PM
All this about a golf fest? Go or don't.

Walter123 03-10-2016 10:29 PM
I love my made in America Par Car.

circletrack 03-10-2016 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1196735)
I believe there was a change in Charter School eligibility within the last year. Something along the lines that the business had to have a physical presence within The Villages. I figured they needed to cull the herd a bit. Their school, their rules.

They started to tighten the rules for entrance because the school was filling up, they don't want class sizes to become too large.

They've built several bigger and larger school buildings over the years as TV has grown, but they just can't keep building more and more. Especially when buildout of the community is inevitable.

Many jobs tied just to the construction will dry up, and they'd eventually be left with some oversized school buildings.

circletrack 03-10-2016 10:38 PM
Now back to the topic:

The former "Golfest" was sponsored and operated by GolfWeek Magazine. They have since stopped touring the country with these festivals, so The Villages decided to host their own starting last year as they have historically been very successful.

So TV decides who gets in.

And a newspaper has the right to refuse advertising to anyone they please. So it's not a legal matter. Just think if they were legally obligated to run ads for anyone with money. There would be some scary stuff in there.

Obviously ParCar is a reputable business, but as someone said earlier, if you owned a Chevy dealership, would you let the Ford shop down the street set up in your parking lot to sell?

NYGUY 03-10-2016 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by circletrack (Post 1197045)
Now back to the topic:

The former "Goldfest" was sponsored and operated by GolfWeek Magazine. They have since stopped touring the country with these festivals, so The Villages decided to host their own starting last year as they have historically been very successful.

So TV decides who gets in.

And a newspaper has the right to refuse advertising to anyone they please. So it's not a legal matter. Just think if they were legally obligated to run ads for anyone with money. There would be some scary stuff in there.

Obviously ParCar is a reputable business, but as someone said earlier, if you owned a Chevy dealership, would you let the Ford shop down the street set up in your parking lot to sell?
Makes sense to me!!

twoplanekid 03-11-2016 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by circletrack (Post 1197045)
Now back to the topic:

The former "Golfest" was sponsored and operated by GolfWeek Magazine. They have since stopped touring the country with these festivals, so The Villages decided to host their own starting last year as they have historically been very successful.

So TV decides who gets in.

And a newspaper has the right to refuse advertising to anyone they please. So it's not a legal matter. Just think if they were legally obligated to run ads for anyone with money. There would be some scary stuff in there.

Obviously ParCar is a reputable business, but as someone said earlier, if you owned a Chevy dealership, would you let the Ford shop down the street set up in your parking lot to sell?
So TV decides who gets in. If TV is referring to a business, then I have no issues. If TV is a governmental agency, then I might see issues. It is my understanding that all Village clubs who have fundraising events in the Villages are now required to follow new rules on who will be allowed to participate as a sponsor of their event.

It can be a sticky wicket. Who owns the land on which the event takes place? What is public and what is private land in the Villages. Things here are not as clear cut as in other parts of the US.

Bogie Shooter 03-11-2016 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1197093)
So TV decides who gets in. If TV is referring to a business, then I have no issues. If TV is a governmental agency, then I might see issues. It is my understanding that all Village clubs who have fundraising events in the Villages are now required to follow new rules on who will be allowed to participate as a sponsor of their event.

It can be a sticky wicket. Who owns the land on which the event takes place? What is public and what is private land in the Villages. Things here are not as clear cut as in other parts of the US.
As was once said, "you ain't in Kansas anymore".

biker1 03-11-2016 08:18 AM
This is going off topic but you have brought it up a few times. Please explain what the new rules/restrictions are regarding sponsors of fund raising events for Village Clubs. Also, please be aware that there are two entities involved in The Villages; the Developer and the CDDs. The amenities such as rec centers, where many clubs hold their activities, are controlled by the CDDs once they are turned over by the Developer.


Quote:
Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1197093)
So TV decides who gets in. If TV is referring to a business, then I have no issues. If TV is a governmental agency, then I might see issues. It is my understanding that all Village clubs who have fundraising events in the Villages are now required to follow new rules on who will be allowed to participate as a sponsor of their event.

It can be a sticky wicket. Who owns the land on which the event takes place? What is public and what is private land in the Villages. Things here are not as clear cut as in other parts of the US.

looneycat 03-11-2016 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1197101)
This is going off topic but you have brought it up a few times. Please explain what the new rules/restrictions are regarding sponsors of fund raising events for Village Clubs. Also, please be aware that there are two entities involved in The Villages; the Developer and the CDDs. The amenities such as rec centers, where many clubs hold their activities, are controlled by the CDDs once they are turned over by the Developer.
the only change identified is from twoplanes hearsay. I'd like to see it in writing to see how the restriction is worded. commenting before that is just whizzing in the wind.


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