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JMintzer 08-15-2025 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2453131)
Yeah, I'm not buying that. How many of us want to live on the street practically with little driveway? NOT!

Then don't buy it! Many people ARE buying them, since they don't want the big (unusable) front yards...

I've got about 15' of back yard from the back of my lanai. I would have gladly given up a few feet of my front yard to have more yard in the back...

Luckily, the street behind me is a cul-de-sac and I don't have inyone directly behiind me. Just the side yards of my back yard neighbors...

JMintzer 08-15-2025 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2453155)
We think just the opposite, enclosed the lanai and landscaping makes a kissing lanai no problem but we don't want our vehicles parked with the bumper feet from the street when we need to park outside the garages. Right in the street and you may as well live in a brownstone in Boston that is feet from the curb.

Unless you have a land yacht, or a huge truck, that isn't a problem...

Me thinks you're exaggerating just a bit...

JMintzer 08-15-2025 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 2453234)
they have cut back on courses in the south and the maintenance of these courses has gone astray, JMHO

They are building multiple executive and championship courses south of 44. Patience grasshopper..

Chellybean 08-15-2025 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2453741)
They are building multiple executive and championship courses south of 44. Patience grasshopper..

They always in the past built the golf courses first not after the developed housing areas. The newer generations are not as interested in golf which brings Eastport. Believe what you want but the golf course are not as profitable as people think and the upkeep is a ginormous expense.
The maintenance of these courses has fell by the waste side and now the villages is directly managing the maintenance now and got rid of the management company years ago!

Normal 08-15-2025 08:44 AM

Always open the courses first
 
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Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 2453758)
They always in the past built the golf courses first not after the developed housing areas. The newer generations are not as interested in golf which brings Eastport. Believe what you want but the golf course are not as profitable as people think and the upkeep is a ginormous expense.
The maintenance of these courses has fell by the waste side and now the villages is directly managing the maintenance now and got rid of the management company years ago!

The Villages always opens the golf courses before homes are purchased or built. It removes the liability of golf ball damage from the golfers.

BrianL99 08-15-2025 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 2453758)
Believe what you want but the golf course are not as profitable as people think and the upkeep is a ginormous expense.

Really? How much is "ginourmous" in dollars?

If they're "not as profitable as people think", how much do they make? How much is the revenue? Expenses? Fixed costs. Please enlighten us.


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Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 2453758)
The maintenance of these courses has fell by the waste side and now the villages is directly managing the maintenance now and got rid of the management company years ago!

The Villages directly manage the maintenance of what golf courses?

Other than the newer courses in South, the maintenance of all the other Championship Golf Courses was contracted out to one of (3-4) companies, as of last year.

Topspinmo 08-15-2025 03:35 PM

I guess the sales pitch “the build out nearly complete” better buy now not tactic/sales pitch point any more?

Marathon Man 08-15-2025 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 2453758)
They always in the past built the golf courses first not after the developed housing areas. The newer generations are not as interested in golf which brings Eastport. Believe what you want but the golf course are not as profitable as people think and the upkeep is a ginormous expense.
The maintenance of these courses has fell by the waste side and now the villages is directly managing the maintenance now and got rid of the management company years ago!

And that still happens. The new course in Wellpoint / Oak Hollow was nearly complete before the first house was built. Same with Laurel Oak. The new course south of Bexley Trail is being built now, and there are no homes there.

Yes yes I know that this is not what some want to hear. However, you are welcome to take a drive down Bexley and have a look for yourself.

jimhoward 08-15-2025 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2453858)
I guess the sales pitch “the build out nearly complete” better buy now not tactic/sales pitch point any more?

I definitely never got that sales pitch. It was more like " the villages owns land pretty much as far as you can see, and they plan to keep building indefinitely"

tophcfa 08-15-2025 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jimhoward (Post 2453879)
I definitely never got that sales pitch. It was more like " the villages owns land pretty much as far as you can see, and they plan to keep building indefinitely"

Difference between a very new residents perspective and sales pitch versus the experience of much more seasoned residents. Based on the above referenced TOTV join date, it’s a newbie’s perspective.

Bill14564 08-16-2025 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 2453923)
Where in Gods name do you think the the liability is removed from the golfer!!!!
Unbelievable entitlement!!!!

There is at least one other long thread about that.

Golf courses and golfers are not liable for unintentional damage to homes along a golf course. That *might* be one of the documents signed at closing.

Bill14564 08-16-2025 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 2453933)
LOL try that argument in front of a judge!
Nothing is signed at closing on a golf lot exempting a golfer of responsibility.
Unbelievable entitlement!
YOU ARE STILL RESPONSIBLE whether its unintentional or intentional, at least that's how i was raised!

Well I guess if you say it in caps then it must be true.

asianthree 08-16-2025 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 2453923)
Where in Gods name do you think the the liability is removed from the golfer!!!!
Unbelievable entitlement!!!!

You Don’t engage with the golfer…On the property that you chose to purchase knowing there will be damages at some point. If the golfer chooses an offer it’s kind of them, because they are not responsible according to insurance adjusters.

Up north all the years living on Oakland Hills, if a member or their guest hit into a home, the caddy would leave information for the homeowner. Most homeowners would just take care of the damage themselves.

Jayhawk 08-16-2025 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 2453933)
LOL try that argument in front of a judge!
Nothing is signed at closing on a golf lot exempting a golfer of responsibility.
Unbelievable entitlement!
YOU ARE STILL RESPONSIBLE whether its unintentional or intentional, at least that's how i was raised!

It may be how you were raised, but Florida law protects golfers due to presumption of risk which homeowners assume when living on a golf course.

BrianL99 08-16-2025 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 2453923)
Where in Gods name do you think the the liability is removed from the golfer!!!!
Unbelievable entitlement!!!!

It was removed by the Home Owner, when they purchased a home on a golf course and assumed the inherent risk associated with living on a golf course.

No different than folks who buy homes near airports or prisons ... they assume the risk.


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