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HJBeck 12-03-2021 10:46 AM

Agree, don't move here.

joelfmi 12-03-2021 12:12 PM

Most retiree that are up in age need community transportation because they can know
 
longer to drive. Being a senior community why can they have free travel or paid community travel to different rec. center, shopping, doctor appointments The amenities fees that they charge can be included in their fees. This is a Hugh draw back for seniors over 75 years old. If they did this myself then housand of other seniors would consider buying there. This is my opinions please respect my opinion.

golfing eagles 12-03-2021 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by joelfmi (Post 2036303)
longer to drive. Being a senior community why can they have free travel or paid community travel to different rec. center, shopping, doctor appointments The amenities fees that they charge can be included in their fees. This is a Hugh draw back for seniors over 75 years old. If they did this myself then housand of other seniors would consider buying there. This is my opinions please respect my opinion.

OK, consider your opinion "respected".

However, just what kind of transportation is "free"---there are drivers, vehicles, maintenance and gas that all cost money. Include it in the amenity fee? Why should I pay for someone else's transportation? There are multiple transportation options inside the villages, and I don't see it as a huge? drawback, and I doubt "thousands" of other would either. Besides, where else can an over 75 senior live that includes "free" transportation other than an all inclusive facility, usually an apartment building with a concierge at a pretty high monthly rent.

manaboutown 12-03-2021 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by joelfmi (Post 2036303)
longer to drive. Being a senior community why can they have free travel or paid community travel to different rec. center, shopping, doctor appointments The amenities fees that they charge can be included in their fees. This is a Hugh draw back for seniors over 75 years old. If they did this myself then housand of other seniors would consider buying there. This is my opinions please respect my opinion.

May you find your "happy place".

Bilyclub 12-03-2021 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by joelfmi (Post 2036303)
longer to drive. Being a senior community why can they have free travel or paid community travel to different rec. center, shopping, doctor appointments The amenities fees that they charge can be included in their fees. This is a Hugh draw back for seniors over 75 years old. If they did this myself then housand of other seniors would consider buying there. This is my opinions please respect my opinion.

It's called Uber or Lyft in most places and there is a per ride charge. There are persons here who will drive you places in TV but it's never going to be free.
I am curious about the following: Do you live in TV? If you don't, why do you post here and why are most of your posts critical of where we live?

Topspinmo 12-03-2021 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2035623)
Not even going to address the other points (I am sure others will) BUT
If you don’t golf and can’t stand the heat, what made you think you would enjoy living in the largest golf course community in the world in a hot climate?


Not everyone golfs here and everyone not good golfers.

Topspinmo 12-03-2021 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjeanj (Post 2035622)
First of all, spellcheck is your friend. Secondly, you’re right. The Villages is not for everyone. Third, yes, it’s hot and humid. That’s what Florida weather is like.

I hope you find someplace that suits you.

So, you saying you can’t comprehend it? Or you just like feeling superior.

Topspinmo 12-03-2021 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2035682)
Drink much? That's one of the few things OP left off his post.

Not close, didn’t mention dogs, dog poop, single lane roundabouts, speeders, divot repair, developers to name few.

Rodneysblue 12-03-2021 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by joelfmi (Post 2035620)
Drive,or be on top of your neighbors home, very high monthly frees, don't play golf, cannot stand the heat, very far from malls, alot of traffic in season, renter, not gated communities, restrictions,. Otherwise go their. These are things that you will never here but are very impotant when you buy and home.

So I guess you are NOT an educated consumer. Most smart people do research on an area that they are looking to move to and get credible information on the area. I for one researched The Villages online for over a year. Then on a visit to relatives in Orlando we drove up to TV and did a quick tour for a couple of days to see if it was worth a Lifestyle Visit, and it was. We then scheduled a Lifestyle visit during the off season and then again during high season to gage different things like traffic. Then one more visit in a non Lifestyle Visit rental home and rented a golf cart also too. check out even more thing like what type of home and where. Went home and talked about it, decided yes this is it. Knowing what we wanted and having a good working relationship with our agent we watch online and purchased a home by phone/internet/agent. But we were prepared and extremely happy.Thanks to Gerry Andrews!

OrangeBlossomBaby 12-03-2021 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by joelfmi (Post 2036303)
longer to drive. Being a senior community why can they have free travel or paid community travel to different rec. center, shopping, doctor appointments The amenities fees that they charge can be included in their fees. This is a Hugh draw back for seniors over 75 years old. If they did this myself then housand of other seniors would consider buying there. This is my opinions please respect my opinion.

I agree with your idea, but not for that reason or with that methodology. I'm 100% in favor of some sort of community-based "public transportation" system. I've posted as such previously. Not amenity-fee (though perhaps a % of all amenity fees collected could go toward the initial purchase of an office, garage, and vehicles) based. More like a public tram system where trams will stop at rec centers to pick up and drop off passengers, and make a stop at one (or two) of the town squares, and one (or two, or three) shopping/medical centers.

Maybe with a paid monthly pass, paid unlimited day-pass, and paid 3-day passes for visitors. Could even have seasonal passes, or yearly passes. No "senior discount" because it'd be assumed the passenger is a senior.

The passes would be directly connected to your Villager ID or visitor's ID pass. Scan and board, easy peasy.

golfing eagles 12-03-2021 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2036363)
I agree with your idea, but not for that reason or with that methodology. I'm 100% in favor of some sort of community-based "public transportation" system. I've posted as such previously. Not amenity-fee (though perhaps a % of all amenity fees collected could go toward the initial purchase of an office, garage, and vehicles) based. More like a public tram system where trams will stop at rec centers to pick up and drop off passengers, and make a stop at one (or two) of the town squares, and one (or two, or three) shopping/medical centers.

Maybe with a paid monthly pass, paid unlimited day-pass, and paid 3-day passes for visitors. Could even have seasonal passes, or yearly passes. No "senior discount" because it'd be assumed the passenger is a senior.

The passes would be directly connected to your Villager ID or visitor's ID pass. Scan and board, easy peasy.

That is a wonderful idea, but possibly a bit too Utopian at this time.

Pretty much anyone who is able to drive a car or a golf cart will generally want to do so, and that is easily 95+% of the population of TV.
So, this leaves people who can no longer drive a vehicle, but aren't ready for assisted living or a nursing facility, and don't live a short walk away from what they want, such as those in the Brownwood Lofts. So it is not a necessity for very many residents.
Meanwhile, given the size of TV, and the number of Rec Centers, pools, restaurants, stores, and medical offices, it would require quite a few "trolleys" at a substantial cost. And remember, those passengers still have to get to the trolley stop. Will the trollies be handicapped accessible? Will they accommodate scooters and electric wheelchairs? Will the driver assist these people? How long will a "circuit" be? How much will loading 2 or 3 mobility devices delay the route? Will people have to stand 1/2 an hour in the rain to catch these trollies.

I didn't mean to rain on your parade, because I agree it is a good idea. But it appears to be cost prohibitive as well as having a multitude of logistical problems.

Papa_lecki 12-03-2021 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2036335)
Not everyone golfs here and everyone not good golfers.

But they don’t complain about the golf.

OrangeBlossomBaby 12-03-2021 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2036367)
That is a wonderful idea, but possibly a bit too Utopian at this time.

Pretty much anyone who is able to drive a car or a golf cart will generally want to do so, and that is easily 95+% of the population of TV.
So, this leaves people who can no longer drive a vehicle, but aren't ready for assisted living or a nursing facility, and don't live a short walk away from what they want, such as those in the Brownwood Lofts. So it is not a necessity for very many residents.
Meanwhile, given the size of TV, and the number of Rec Centers, pools, restaurants, stores, and medical offices, it would require quite a few "trolleys" at a substantial cost. And remember, those passengers still have to get to the trolley stop. Will the trollies be handicapped accessible? Will they accommodate scooters and electric wheelchairs? Will the driver assist these people? How long will a "circuit" be? How much will loading 2 or 3 mobility devices delay the route? Will people have to stand 1/2 an hour in the rain to catch these trollies.

I didn't mean to rain on your parade, because I agree it is a good idea. But it appears to be cost prohibitive as well as having a multitude of logistical problems.

It's not entirely utopian, this is already an option in some communities (albeit much smaller than ours). It's also not just for people who can't drive. It's also for people who want to let someone else do the driving for a change. It's a convenience. It reduces traffic, which is ALWAYS a good thing.

Some tram systems have elevating wheelchair ramps with space designated for wheelchairs. Scooters, no. Wheelchairs, yes. Some public transit systems have built their buses to carry bicycles on the front as well, so that's also a thing.

A tram isn't really a trolley (I had edited it, you probably responded to it pre-edit). A tram is more like a high-powered golf cart with 5-6 benches, each of which can accommodate 3-4 people. They're more or less open-air, with guard rails and a roof but no walls.

As for routing: you'd need "local" trams, a "central location," and regional commuter buses (those are the small ones like Workman has to get folks to the airport).

Local trams would be something like - a circuit that goes from Morse and 44 to points south - Monarch Grove, Citrus Grove, etc and up to Brownwood town square. Another one that would go 44 and Morse up to 466A and then around southwesterly to Brownwood town square. Another might go from somewhere on/near 466A and Morse northward, while another might go from 466A and Buena Vista Blvd northward. Each "local" tram would stop at the closest town square to them, and the closest shopping or medical center closest to them. One that connects up by Legacy and over Camino Real around the Savannah Center, and one that goes from the Savannah Center down Buena Vista to 466, stopping at the Polo grounds. There would be overlap, which is how it SHOULD work - so points south come north, points north go south, west and east meet in the middle as well.

Then - a "regional" would go from one town square to another, stopping only at strategic points (not going to rec centers). Brownwood would go to Sumter, Sumter would go to Spanish Springs. Maybe Brownwood would have another regional one going to the new Sawgrass (is that what it's called?)? Or perhaps it would be Sumter that does that.

There'd be 2-3 trams for each route so that there's always one coming back, one leaving, and one somewhere out in the distance furthest from the start and finish line.

Then there'd be the "direct route" buses that connect ONLY at the town squares. Great for folks who do monthly lunches in groups and don't want to take 10 golf carts or 5 cars, and want to make a day of it.

Imagine a bus taking you to your evening at the town square for dinner and dancing during market night or the antique car shows, and not having to worry about a parking space, or driving, or (because you know it happens) drinking and driving. Not having to pay a fortune for Uber, IF you can even find one available when you happen to want one.

Veiragirl 12-04-2021 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by joelfmi (Post 2035620)
Drive,or be on top of your neighbors home, very high monthly frees, don't play golf, cannot stand the heat, very far from malls, alot of traffic in season, renter, not gated communities, restrictions,. Otherwise go their. These are things that you will never here but are very impotant when you buy and home.

Malls!! Who goes to malls anymore. As far as the heat, hey its Florida

Two Bills 12-04-2021 05:47 AM

What are these Malls and shop things that posters keep refering too?
Are they alternative sites to Amazon etc?:icon_wink:


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