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golfing eagles 04-19-2022 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2085542)
1. I've never seen that happen.
2. It wouldn't bother me.
3. If they were good looking, I'd probably enjoy watching them walk from point A to point B while I was taking in the sun on the lounge chair or relaxing in the water.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

coffeebean 04-19-2022 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2085498)
Understand but have never heard of a problem.

Well.....you need to know that I look "hot" in my bathing suit. NOT!!!! LOL. Just joking.

Seriously, I would feel uncomfortable if there were no one else around but that's just me.

Nick B 04-20-2022 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2083774)
Three times over the winter I saw young people in the sports pools during lap swimming times who appeared way to young to be Village residents. Each time someone called the associated regional recreation center. One time they had rental issued resident ID’s and were allowed to stay. The other two times they had guest ID’s and were told to leave. Apparently, there are homeowners who don’t know the rules and tell their guests it is OK to use the sports pools?

That is unacceptable they should be shunned and their homes confiscated.

Nick B 04-20-2022 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Rose (Post 2084284)
I wish people who want to swim laps would go to a sports pool instead of a neighborhood pool to do that. It's very rude of them; especially when the pool is crowded.

What else do you do in a swimming pool. Just soaking urinating and Worshiping TFG.

Stu from NYC 04-20-2022 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick B (Post 2085833)
What else do you do in a swimming pool. Just soaking urinating and Worshiping TFG.

I do notice people in our neighborhood pool go in and are in for hours. Does make one wonder.

NewtoFL 04-20-2022 10:38 AM

I disagree.
 
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2084172)
This has nothing to do with picking and choosing who can and cannot use the adult pools based on their pleasantness.

There is an age requirement. No matter how nice this couple was, they showed a very decisive, intentional lack of respect to YOU by choosing to violate the rules.

The adult pool is not your personal pool where you get to make or break the rules, or decide who gets to break them on everyone else's behalf.

If you let a 25-year old couple hang out at the 30+ pool, then you need to let the 20-year-old couple hang out at it. If you let them hang out at it, then you need to let the 15-year-old couple hang out at it. And then that 25-year-old couple should be allowed to bring their infant baby and 2-year-old.

When you break the rule to accommodate the interests of one, at the expense of the interests of everyone else, then you invalidate the rule.

We have family pools, set up JUST so that people under 30 have a place to go. That is where they should go.

We have three grown children who will be visiting for Christmas. They are 34, 32 and 26. It is ridiculous that 5 adults would have to use the family pools because one of us is not 30 yet. I understand the rules for adults only pools and not wanting a bunch of partying at the over 30 pools but certain situations don’t make sense.

MartinSE 04-20-2022 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NewtoFL (Post 2085964)
We have three grown children who will be visiting for Christmas. They are 34, 32 and 26. It is ridiculous that 5 adults would have to use the family pools because one of us is not 30 yet. I understand the rules for adults only pools and not wanting a bunch of partying at the over 30 pools but certain situations don’t make sense.

Sadly, it is impossible to write perfect rules or laws. I would not mind the youngest, but it is not up to me.

vintageogauge 04-20-2022 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by NewtoFL (Post 2085964)
We have three grown children who will be visiting for Christmas. They are 34, 32 and 26. It is ridiculous that 5 adults would have to use the family pools because one of us is not 30 yet. I understand the rules for adults only pools and not wanting a bunch of partying at the over 30 pools but certain situations don’t make sense.

If they changed it to 26 and one of yours was 25, you know what I'm getting at, pretty soon everyone would want them to be family pools. Best to leave well enough alone especially now that there are so many family pools being built south of 44.

Stu from NYC 04-20-2022 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NewtoFL (Post 2085964)
We have three grown children who will be visiting for Christmas. They are 34, 32 and 26. It is ridiculous that 5 adults would have to use the family pools because one of us is not 30 yet. I understand the rules for adults only pools and not wanting a bunch of partying at the over 30 pools but certain situations don’t make sense.

Family pools very often have no younger people in them so you might be worrying about something that will not happen

coffeebean 04-20-2022 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by NewtoFL (Post 2085964)
We have three grown children who will be visiting for Christmas. They are 34, 32 and 26. It is ridiculous that 5 adults would have to use the family pools because one of us is not 30 yet. I understand the rules for adults only pools and not wanting a bunch of partying at the over 30 pools but certain situations don’t make sense.

At least you have a pool to go to. It's not like you are being told anyone under 30 cannot go to a pool in The Villages. The family pools are for the under 30 crowd and the oldsters can go to them too. Win, win.

NewtoFL 04-20-2022 08:54 PM

I should hope so.
 
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2086087)
At least you have a pool to go to. It's not like you are being told anyone under 30 cannot go to a pool in The Villages. The family pools are for the under 30 crowd and the oldsters can go to them too. Win, win.

I would hope we have a pool to go to. We are paying for it.

karostay 04-22-2022 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 2083777)
not "their". it's a hobby to educate those who failed grammar or are too old to care. :shocked:

True Villager at there best :1rotfl:

Dorebea 04-28-2022 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2084245)
Woah... I think maybe you meant to post this on some other forum, this is way too reasonable to post here - imagine, a meeting where people "talk" (not yell) and try to come up with solutions...

A solution for what?

In general: Family pools are intended for Villagers and their guests of all ages to enjoy

Adult pools are intended for adults (eg ‘over 30’ ) to enjoy whether relaxing on the lounge chairs or floating peacefully around in the water.

Sports pools are primarily for organized activities (eg water volleyball, water aerobics, synchronized swimming, lap swimming etc)

This structure provides a place for everyone to enjoy a pool as they would like.

The only problem needing a solution is how to handle the people who feel the rules don’t apply to them.

Bilyclub 04-28-2022 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NewtoFL (Post 2085964)
We have three grown children who will be visiting for Christmas. They are 34, 32 and 26. It is ridiculous that 5 adults would have to use the family pools because one of us is not 30 yet. I understand the rules for adults only pools and not wanting a bunch of partying at the over 30 pools but certain situations don’t make sense.

It's not like the rules changed since you moved here.

VApeople 04-30-2022 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by NewtoFL (Post 2085964)
We have three grown children who will be visiting for Christmas. They are 34, 32 and 26. It is ridiculous that 5 adults would have to use the family pools because one of us is not 30 yet. I understand the rules for adults only pools and not wanting a bunch of partying at the over 30 pools but certain situations don’t make sense.

Too bad. The will find that the rules in The Villages apply to everyone, even if you think they don't make sense.

Stu from NYC 04-30-2022 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2090621)
Too bad. The will find that the rules in The Villages apply to everyone, even if you think they don't make sense.

Very true

Cupcake57 04-30-2022 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2085280)
Question: If you were alone at the pool, how comfortable would you be with 4 workmen coming into the pool area to use the bathroom???? How about most women?????

Happens all the time. It never crossed my mind to feel uncomfortable. I try to time my pool workouts to a quiet time before the sunbathers arrive so I am often alone.

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-30-2022 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NewtoFL (Post 2085964)
We have three grown children who will be visiting for Christmas. They are 34, 32 and 26. It is ridiculous that 5 adults would have to use the family pools because one of us is not 30 yet. I understand the rules for adults only pools and not wanting a bunch of partying at the over 30 pools but certain situations don’t make sense.

It's ridiculous that parents of three children would have a problem being at a family pool with their three children, no matter what age those children happen to be.

Many 26-34-year old adults have kids of their own. You're likely to see plenty of grandparents with their adult children, and THEIR young children, at the family pools. Plenty of people for your adult children to talk to of their own age at these pools.

You could just stay home and not go to any pool. Or you could build a pool in your back yard, and never need to go to any amenity pool.

As I said in my previous post - if they bend the rules for you, they'll have to bend them for everyone else. There is nothing special about your 26 year old that makes them more uniquely qualified to be at a pool with a restricted age limit of 30.

Bilyclub 05-01-2022 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by NewtoFL (Post 2086198)
I would hope we have a pool to go to. We are paying for it.

You might be new, but you have the crabby villager thing down pat.

pauld315 05-01-2022 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Life as I know it (Post 2084075)
A lady actually told me at the pool that she lives at Recreation Plantation and her friend who lives in the Villages gets her the pass. She even goes to the dance classes.

This happens all the time and it is usually somebody renting in TV for the winter getting passes for their friends who are staying someplace cheaper.

MartinSE 05-01-2022 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dorebea (Post 2089915)
A solution for what?

In general: Family pools are intended for Villagers and their guests of all ages to enjoy

Adult pools are intended for adults (eg ‘over 30’ ) to enjoy whether relaxing on the lounge chairs or floating peacefully around in the water.

Sports pools are primarily for organized activities (eg water volleyball, water aerobics, synchronized swimming, lap swimming etc)

This structure provides a place for everyone to enjoy a pool as they would like.

The only problem needing a solution is how to handle the people who feel the rules don’t apply to them.

Well, there seems to be a lot of anxiety about people being dilated, or people violating the pools, so, a suggestion to get together, discuss why some feel that way and coming to a resolution seems a reasonable approach. I understand you are happy with things the way they stand. But, some apparently are not. SO, why not talk, discuss.

Or we could all just come here and yell at each other like has been done for a long time - see how well that is working?

VApeople 05-01-2022 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2090971)
a suggestion to get together, discuss why some feel that way and coming to a resolution seems a reasonable approach.

Another "reasonable approach" is to simply follow the rules.

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2090971)
Or we could all just come here and yell at each other like has been done for a long time - see how well that is working?

Based on the number of people who love living in The Villages, I would say it is working very well.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-01-2022 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2090971)
Well, there seems to be a lot of anxiety about people being dilated, or people violating the pools, so, a suggestion to get together, discuss why some feel that way and coming to a resolution seems a reasonable approach. I understand you are happy with things the way they stand. But, some apparently are not. SO, why not talk, discuss.

Or we could all just come here and yell at each other like has been done for a long time - see how well that is working?

There's no need or reason to discuss this particular issue. It's already resolved.

There are pools for 30+ only. This accommodates visitors, but not people 2+ generations removed from the residents.

There are pools for residents only (sports pools). This accommodates residents who don't want visitors in their pools.

There are pools for all ages. This accommodates everyone who is neither 30 years old, nor a resident.

Everyone's covered here.

Bill14564 05-01-2022 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2084440)
But if you let a 25-year old stay just because he's quiet, then you need to let a 20 year old stay for the same reason. And a 10 year old. And a newborn.

The line has been drawn at 30. If you want that changed, go ahead and try to get it changed. Until then, it's 30, whether the person is polite and quiet or not.

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2090996)
There's no need or reason to discuss this particular issue. It's already resolved.

There are pools for 30+ only. This accommodates visitors, but not people 2+ generations removed from the residents.

There are pools for residents only (sports pools). This accommodates residents who don't want visitors in their pools.

There are pools for all ages. This accommodates everyone who is neither 30 years old, nor a resident.

Everyone's covered here.

The line has been drawn but if you want to get it changed go ahead and try... but really don't, because everyone's covered here.

Or maybe, the line has been drawn, the rules are the rules, the sign on the wall is clear...

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2090947)
But I prefer going as fast as I can safely, regardless of some arbitrary number on a sign.

Flexibility is only okay in certain cases or for certain people??

I would much rather see rules based on behaviors rather than arbitrary age discrimination. As I believe I wrote somewhere earlier in the 200+ responses, I would rather see a 25 year old sitting in a chair reading or standing in the pool talking to their parents than have no choice but to listen to a 55+ year old loudly discuss their recent medical procedure on speaker phone or a group of 70 year olds loudly agreeing with themselves about politics.

But today the rules are the rules and so I'll have to consider the arbitrary number on the sign.

coralway 05-01-2022 12:59 PM

Florida is supposed to be a "free" state. Rules and regulations are supposed to be for other states, not for us.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-01-2022 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2091004)
The line has been drawn but if you want to get it changed go ahead and try... but really don't, because everyone's covered here.

Or maybe, the line has been drawn, the rules are the rules, the sign on the wall is clear...



Flexibility is only okay in certain cases or for certain people??

I would much rather see rules based on behaviors rather than arbitrary age discrimination. As I believe I wrote somewhere earlier in the 200+ responses, I would rather see a 25 year old sitting in a chair reading or standing in the pool talking to their parents than have no choice but to listen to a 55+ year old loudly discuss their recent medical procedure on speaker phone or a group of 70 year olds loudly agreeing with themselves about politics.

But today the rules are the rules and so I'll have to consider the arbitrary number on the sign.

Cherry-picking quotes to take out of context doesn't prove a person's point. It just makes them look ignorant, or intentionally obtuse.

Immediately beneath that sentence about how I prefer to drive, I took ownership of my preference. I acknowledge that it's against the rules, and if I'm caught, will accept that I was caught breaking the rules.

That's a whole huge big honking different thing, from saying the rules don't apply to me or mine, and justifying why I should be allowed to break them with no consequences.

In the Villages, the rule is 30 or older for the Adult Pools. You're welcome to TRY and change the rule. You'll fail, but you have the right to try through the appropriate channels.

And if you intentionally break that rule, you need to accept that you broke it. And accept that the Rec department folks and/or Community Watch folks have the right to order you to leave the premises if they choose to enforce that rule.

Just like if I get caught speeding, I have to accept that the officer might give me a ticket for violating the rule about speeding.

Velvet 05-01-2022 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2091004)
The line has been drawn but if you want to get it changed go ahead and try... but really don't, because everyone's covered here.

Or maybe, the line has been drawn, the rules are the rules, the sign on the wall is clear...



Flexibility is only okay in certain cases or for certain people??

I would much rather see rules based on behaviors rather than arbitrary age discrimination. As I believe I wrote somewhere earlier in the 200+ responses, I would rather see a 25 year old sitting in a chair reading or standing in the pool talking to their parents than have no choice but to listen to a 55+ year old loudly discuss their recent medical procedure on speaker phone or a group of 70 year olds loudly agreeing with themselves about politics.

But today the rules are the rules and so I'll have to consider the arbitrary number on the sign.

And I see no problem with what you suggest as long as… you start your own community, make up your own deeds and get people to sign off on them.

The Villages has already gone through that procedure and most of us bought our homes here because of the deeds and rules. They make this place a beautiful, enjoyable community for us.

JMintzer 05-01-2022 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by coralway (Post 2091029)
Florida is supposed to be a "free" state. Rules and regulations are supposed to be for other states, not for us.

You DO understand that when people say that, they're talking about "The State Government", not the Rec Center rules, right?


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