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seecapecod 08-21-2024 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MplsPete (Post 2361940)
Tia.

You will also never see original listing price against any any price reductions like you see on Zillow-

Mrmean58 08-21-2024 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MplsPete (Post 2361940)
Tia.

Ah. VLS does not provide tons of data a home shopper could get from other MLS services or other Internet real estate data based. Days on market is one as well as the closing price as VLS does not report transactions to realtor.com nor Zillow. Since the developer new home sales competes with pre owned sales, they feel too much public information can be detrimental to their sales.

retiredguy123 08-21-2024 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrmean58 (Post 2362467)
Ah. VLS does not provide tons of data a home shopper could get from other MLS services or other Internet real estate data based. Days on market is one as well as the closing price as VLS does not report transactions to realtor.com nor Zillow. Since the developer new home sales competes with pre owned sales, they feel too much public information can be detrimental to their sales.

The closing price and the date of the closing for all houses can be seen on the county real estate website.

Villager1234 08-21-2024 07:02 AM

Mls
 
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2362465)
MLS is not much different from VLS in terms of sharing information about how long a seller has been trying to sell their house. If a house has been on the market for more than a year, agents don't want potential buyers to know it.

You can see MLS listings, how long on market, pricing changes
Just go to Zillow or realtor.com also shows recent sales with selling price not listing price
You have to squeeze that info out of a village sales rep

Normal 08-21-2024 07:14 AM

Yes
 
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2362475)
The closing price and the date of the closing for all houses can be seen on the county real estate website.

Yes, it gives the numbers no one can dispute. When spending large amounts of money on a home, it’s worth the 10 minutes to figure out.

retiredguy123 08-21-2024 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Villager1234 (Post 2362481)
You can see MLS listings, how long on market, pricing changes
Just go to Zillow or realtor.com also shows recent sales with selling price not listing price
You have to squeeze that info out of a village sales rep

There are actually two calculations for "days on market" that the real estate industry tracks:

"Days on Market (DOM) provides a look at how long the current listing has been actively marketed. This is the time when buyers can view the listing online and make offers on the property. It starts and stops calculating, depending on the statuses you use throughout the life of your listing.

The Cumulative Days on Market (CDOM) offers a more comprehensive view of how long the property has been actively marketed. It provides the sum of Days on Market for all listings associated with the same property, when the listing is expired or withdrawn and relisted multiple times by any office, and when there are 60 days or less between the end of one listing and the start of another."

Whenever I have asked an agent for information about the CDOM, they have avoided my question by claiming that they don't know. This is the information that some selling agents do not want potential buyers to know about because a house that has been on the market for a long time is harder to sell.

genobambino 08-21-2024 09:43 AM

Compare the VLS number to the latest ones listed, that will give you a pretty good idea.

Snakster66 08-21-2024 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by onfire (Post 2362265)
The screenshot is from an Excel I generated. "Market Date" is the original listing date on VLS, but of course for a resale it's possible the house was on MLS previously.

I see, so you just enter in the info manually as listings post? That's a pretty good idea and one I've contemplated myself. Sure beats trying to remember a date range for a VLS number range with my fading brain capacity.

APovi 08-21-2024 09:56 AM

Buying a home?
 
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Originally Posted by MplsPete (Post 2361940)
Tia.

No better source of info than the owner(s).
Contact source? Villages Directory, neighbors, Google Serach, Mail Property Card address (and others).
PS* As previously posted, please don't sign a Buyers Broker Agreement. One provision is that you would owe that Realtor a Buyers Broker Commission, whether you buy from them or not!

mmbella 08-21-2024 09:58 AM

VLS Listings
 
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Originally Posted by onfire (Post 2362169)
The VLS database has a field for listing date, not sure if that is what you are looking for.

https://iili.io/dVxtcYl.jpg

Where did you find this spreadsheet? I would love to be able to create the spreadsheet.

onfire 08-21-2024 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeN (Post 2362456)
VLS is very secretive about sales info. Not at all helpful and not sure why. If you’re interested in buying or selling for that matter they are NOT helping anyone with the lack of information

They publish quarterly data (market reports), so I wouldn't say they are secretive.

Holpat39 08-21-2024 02:57 PM

Get the address off the listing and google Zillow.com. It will show original date of purchase, first time on market, how many times listed and removed,, prices of each time listed and property taxes.

onfire 08-21-2024 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakster66 (Post 2362570)
I see, so you just enter in the info manually as listings post?

No, it is linked to the VLS. If you are proficient in Excel it isn't difficult, and refreshing the data is automatic.

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Originally Posted by mmbella (Post 2362575)
Where did you find this spreadsheet? I would love to be able to create the spreadsheet.

I can email you the Excel, send me a PM with your address.

Pairadocs 08-22-2024 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 2362021)
What difference does it make. If you want to make a lowball offer just make it then you'll know.

IMHO and in my experience when buying, it DOES make a difference (in most cases, I'm sure there are exceptions). For instance, rather than just "spit in the wind), homes for sale for 3 months or more are much more likely be open to a "low ball" as you term it, offer.

Pairadocs 08-22-2024 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MplsPete (Post 2361940)
Tia.

That's why I LOVE Zillow over the properties of the VILLAGES site. They tell you exactly how long the property has been on the market, AND also have a complete history tab so you can see exactly how many times it has been bought and sold, the price paid, etc. etc. And, so MANY other aspects (details) the Villages homes for sale lacks. I hate having to call for every little detail that could be easily included by using a format similar to Zillow's.


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