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drdoug59 11-04-2023 06:53 AM

Walking in the dark
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Full-timer (Post 2270793)
It is wonderful to see so many folks up and about walking at 6 or 7 in the am.

But perhaps a little safety is needed when it's dark outside.

Reflective clothing or lights of some kind, and walking against traffic.

All or any is your choice for sure but remember, you are walking with older people driving golf carts and cars that most likely are vision impaired to some degree as well as having slower response time, and more and more on the phone thinking they can talk and drive just fine (yeah right).

Anyone here owning a golf cart knows when driving it with front window up, in the dark, visibility is poor at best. Add to that, you all know many drivers here are not as good (or safe) as they think.

Lastly, the most important thing to remember;

The fact that "you the walker" think you can see fine while walking has nothing to do with the other person's vision or ability to be safe.

unfortunately walkers take second place to golf carts in all aspects of village’s lifestyle including golf courses I don’t like it, but it’s part of the total package so I accept it. Even wearing a reflective vests and carrying a light i have had close calls with golf carts, so when I get in my 80s we will probably relocate to a more walker friendly community, where there are sidewalks everywhere and you don’t have to dodge golf carts. I should add we spend 7 months in Rhode Island and overseas, and they are more walker friendly. “ The more you walk, the less you’ll weigh “

Fastskiguy 11-04-2023 07:23 AM

They are called darkwads

Urban Dictionary: Darkwad

kendi 11-04-2023 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by fishon (Post 2270818)
Villagers aren’t smart enough to walk on the correct side of the street or wear appropriate nighttime clothing. If there is a sidewalk Florida requires that pedestrians use it. There are even knuckleheads running in the cart/bike lane when there is a sidewalk right next to them
Some of the older Villages don’t have sidewalks. Please pay attention.

Concrete is harder on the skeletal system than asphalt which is why you may see runners avoiding the sidewalks

kendi 11-04-2023 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by drdoug59 (Post 2271181)
unfortunately walkers take second place to golf carts in all aspects of village’s lifestyle including golf courses I don’t like it, but it’s part of the total package so I accept it. Even wearing a reflective vests and carrying a light i have had close calls with golf carts, so when I get in my 80s we will probably relocate to a more walker friendly community, where there are sidewalks everywhere and you don’t have to dodge golf carts. I should add we spend 7 months in Rhode Island and overseas, and they are more walker friendly. “ The more you walk, the less you’ll weigh “

Lots of no golf cart walking paths in the Fenney / Marshbend area.

kendi 11-04-2023 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2271066)
The above statement is absolutely correct for the majority of golf carts that have tinted windshields. Tinted golf cart windshields and driving at night, especially in the rain, are a dangerous combination. We have two Yamaha’s, one with a tinted windshield and the other with a clear windshield. The difference is huge, we always take the cart with the clear windshield after the sun sets. We will never again get a tinted golf cart windshield, that’s what sunglasses are for. I totally agree with others about a reflective vest, for only $7 on Amazon, nobody should be out walking after dark without one.

Personally I notice flashlights much sooner than reflective vests. I don’t have to be close enough or in the proper alignment for my lights to reflect off the vest.

talonip 11-04-2023 07:51 AM

Correct
 
Try okahumka run. No sidewalks. Narrow street.

Topspinmo 11-04-2023 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by drdoug59 (Post 2271181)
unfortunately walkers take second place to golf carts in all aspects of village’s lifestyle including golf courses I don’t like it, but it’s part of the total package so I accept it. Even wearing a reflective vests and carrying a light i have had close calls with golf carts, so when I get in my 80s we will probably relocate to a more walker friendly community, where there are sidewalks everywhere and you don’t have to dodge golf carts. I should add we spend 7 months in Rhode Island and overseas, and they are more walker friendly. “ The more you walk, the less you’ll weigh “

“ Florida law is clear that pedestrians should keep to the side of the road, walking on the shoulder whenever possible. The same exceptions apply here; if the shoulder or side of the road is blocked or unsafe, pedestrians may carefully walk in the street following all common-sense safety precautions. “

Topspinmo 11-04-2023 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdoug59 (Post 2271181)
unfortunately walkers take second place to golf carts in all aspects of village’s lifestyle including golf courses I don’t like it, but it’s part of the total package so I accept it. Even wearing a reflective vests and carrying a light i have had close calls with golf carts, so when I get in my 80s we will probably relocate to a more walker friendly community, where there are sidewalks everywhere and you don’t have to dodge golf carts. I should add we spend 7 months in Rhode Island and overseas, and they are more walker friendly. “ The more you walk, the less you’ll weigh “

“ Florida law is clear that pedestrians should keep to the side of the road, walking on the shoulder whenever possible. The same exceptions apply here; if the shoulder or side of the road is blocked or unsafe, pedestrians may carefully walk in the street following all common-sense safety precautions. “

“When the street does not have a sidewalk, pedestrians should stay as far away from the edge of the roadway as possible. Walking toward oncoming traffic is the best way to remain visible.”

Quote from Google

Key words side and shoulder” when blocked wait for traffic to pass, the common sense safety precautions.

So you’re right it’s walkers responsible to walk in safe manner. When I walk I take myself out of any possible danger. I don’t Hesitate get off the street or path to get far away from getting hit.

Regorp 11-04-2023 08:17 AM

Walkers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Full-timer (Post 2270793)
It is wonderful to see so many folks up and about walking at 6 or 7 in the am.

But perhaps a little safety is needed when it's dark outside.

Reflective clothing or lights of some kind, and walking against traffic.

All or any is your choice for sure but remember, you are walking with older people driving golf carts and cars that most likely are vision impaired to some degree as well as having slower response time, and more and more on the phone thinking they can talk and drive just fine (yeah right).

Anyone here owning a golf cart knows when driving it with front window up, in the dark, visibility is poor at best. Add to that, you all know many drivers here are not as good (or safe) as they think.

Lastly, the most important thing to remember;

The fact that "you the walker" think you can see fine while walking has nothing to do with the other person's vision or ability to be safe.

I walk at 7am wearing a reflective vest carrying a flashlight, so no problem. Of course, daylight savings ends November 5, so 7am will be 8am for 6 months much lighter out .

MandoMan 11-04-2023 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Full-timer (Post 2270793)
It is wonderful to see so many folks up and about walking at 6 or 7 in the am.

But perhaps a little safety is needed when it's dark outside.

Reflective clothing or lights of some kind, and walking against traffic.

All or any is your choice for sure but remember, you are walking with older people driving golf carts and cars that most likely are vision impaired to some degree as well as having slower response time, and more and more on the phone thinking they can talk and drive just fine (yeah right).

Anyone here owning a golf cart knows when driving it with front window up, in the dark, visibility is poor at best. Add to that, you all know many drivers here are not as good (or safe) as they think.

Lastly, the most important thing to remember;

The fact that "you the walker" think you can see fine while walking has nothing to do with the other person's vision or ability to be safe.

You are right. I drive a Toyota Prius, which are notorious for having low beam headlights designed for city driving and don’t easily light up pedestrians. The high beams do, but people don’t like me to use my high beams. Fluorescent green seems to show up best, especially from a distance or in fog. Reflective strips help, especially if they are moving. Some of these little LED strobes some bicycle riders use are terrific—I can see them a quarter mile away at dusk when I can’t even see the rider. It’s so easy to keep a reflective vest near the door and throw it on by habit. Even on bright sunny days, the glare can make it hard to see people. There’s a reason why the people working near the roads around here planting flowers are required to wear fluorescent green shirts.

Freehiker 11-04-2023 08:30 AM

I ride early in the AM’s and it never fails that I come across someone in dark clothing, no lights or reflective anything. It’s crazy how many people take that risk.

Even worse are the ones that walk against oncoming traffic on the inside edge of a blind curve. They’re just begging to get hit.

drdoug59 11-04-2023 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kendi (Post 2271198)
Lots of no golf cart walking paths in the Fenney / Marshbend area.

Can you walk to the walking paths on sidewalks or do you have to walk in the road?

drdoug59 11-04-2023 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kendi (Post 2271198)
Lots of no golf cart walking paths in the Fenney / Marshbend area.

Do you have to walk in the road to get to the walking paths?

ehonour 11-04-2023 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Full-timer (Post 2270793)
It is wonderful to see so many folks up and about walking at 6 or 7 in the am.

But perhaps a little safety is needed when it's dark outside.

Reflective clothing or lights of some kind, and walking against traffic.

All or any is your choice for sure but remember, you are walking with older people driving golf carts and cars that most likely are vision impaired to some degree as well as having slower response time, and more and more on the phone thinking they can talk and drive just fine (yeah right).

Anyone here owning a golf cart knows when driving it with front window up, in the dark, visibility is poor at best. Add to that, you all know many drivers here are not as good (or safe) as they think.

Lastly, the most important thing to remember;

The fact that "you the walker" think you can see fine while walking has nothing to do with the other person's vision or ability to be safe.

I wanted to make a quick post to say "thank you" for your post. This was well-stated, friendly, and kind, leaving it up to each reader to decide what to do with it. I'd suggest by-passing most of the responses. Thanks again.

Babubhat 11-04-2023 10:37 AM

Be highly visible in the tunnels! Too many close calls


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