[Bombguy]

Originally Posted by VApeople

When we walk out of our house, we stay in our yard. We have a wonderful life.

So I am just curious how do you get from where you park your car/golf cart at most stores to the stores?

[Topgun 1776]

Florida Statute 316.130 addresses pedestrian traffic regulations and states that pedestrians should obey traffic control devices and instructions. However, it doesn't explicitly forbid pedestrians from using multi-modal paths when sidewalks exist.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Topgun 1776

Florida Statute 316.130 addresses pedestrian traffic regulations and states that pedestrians should obey traffic control devices and instructions. However, it doesn't explicitly forbid pedestrians from using multi-modal paths when sidewalks exist.

There are no sidewalks alongside MMPs. The statute applies to cart and bike lanes along roads, which it does EXPLICITLY forbid. The lanes along these roads are NOT multimodal paths, they ARE cart and bike lanes.

[bobandbea]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

I see it everyday.

Walkers / Runners walking in the wrong direction on the "cart paths" (whatever you want to call the paths).

Walkers / Runners in the cart lane on roads when there is a sidewalk right next to them.

Walking and Running on multi-modal paths in the direction of oncoming carts is done for safety reasons. It is more comfortable to see oncoming carts under control as opposed to hearing carts coming up behind you not knowing if they see you or not. Generally, it also provides for a friendly villages wave and acknowledgement.

Some runners use the lanes because they are generally softer than the concrete sidewalks to run on, especially if they are running a long distance and have sensitive feet.

[USOTR]

So what is the law when there is no sidewalk?

[nn0wheremann]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Which is a clear violation of Florida statute 316.130 sec 3 and they can be cited for it. I particularly like those that want to play chicken with a 600 lb. cart coming at them at 20 mph.

Multi modal path, not golf cart path. Walkers have right of way over everyone. Bicycles have right of way over golf carts.

The slower the user, the greater the right of way. Easy as that.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by bobandbea

Walking and Running on multi-modal paths in the direction of oncoming carts is done for safety reasons. It is more comfortable to see oncoming carts under control as opposed to hearing carts coming up behind you not knowing if they see you or not. Generally, it also provides for a friendly villages wave and acknowledgement.

Some runners use the lanes because they are generally softer than the concrete sidewalks to run on, especially if they are running a long distance and have sensitive feet.

Well, those runners are violating the law. Florida statue 316.130 DOES NOT grant an exception for runners who believe asphalt is softer. Grass and sand are even softer yet, go run there but not in a lane designated for vehicular traffic

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by nn0wheremann

Multi modal path, not golf cart path. Walkers have right of way over everyone. Bicycles have right of way over golf carts.

NO. Not multimodal path, cart and bike lane along certain roads. C’mon, this is not rocket science, the statute is crystal clear. Do I really need to repeat it again. Please read the whole thread

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by USOTR

So what is the law when there is no sidewalk?

Walk as close as possible to the edge of the road facing oncoming traffic, SINGLE FILE

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by bombguy

so i am just curious how do you get from where you park your car/golf cart at most stores to the stores?

thank you

[MX rider]

As long time runner, I don't get it either. I run on Odell where there's a sidewalk and a cart lane.

I see a few people that insist on walking in the cart lane. The odd part is, the people I see doing it are women, who are normally more safety conscious than men.

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by Bombguy

So I am just curious how do you get from where you park your car/golf cart at most stores to the stores?

As I said before, we do not own a golf cart.

When we go to a store, we park in front of the store and carefully walk thru the parking lot. There are no rules in a parking lot. We keep our eyes open and do not get distracted.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by VApeople

As I said before, we do not own a golf cart.

When we go to a store, we park in front of the store and carefully walk thru the parking lot. There are no rules in a parking lot. We keep our eyes open and do not get distracted.

sad you had to explain.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Walk as close as possible to the edge of the road facing oncoming traffic, SINGLE FILE

Of course. Not exactly rocket surgery.

I do a lot of walking and see people walking on MMPs with traffic approaching them from the rear. Several times I've stopped and mentioned that they should be walking AGAINST approaching traffic instead of with it. I follow it up with "believe me, the way some people drive on these MMPs means that you WANT to see them coming". It always elicits a smile. So far no one has taken umbrage over my advice.

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by topgun 1776

florida statute 316.130 addresses pedestrian traffic regulations and states that pedestrians should obey traffic control devices and instructions. However, it doesn't explicitly forbid pedestrians from using multi-modal paths when sidewalks exist.

you are correct. The issues would be resolved in a courtroom. The crucial point i believe would be in determining negligence on behalf of the second driver. It would be pointed out that if the first driver could have avoided the pedestrian why couldn't the second driver who fatally struck the pedestrian who was illegally in the street?