Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1988377)

Not just seniors. Young, inexperienced car buyers are also targeted by dealers. I think that car manufacturers should require their dealers to advertise and sell cars like most other retailers. Set a price for everyone to pay and that would make it fair to all customers. But, I would pay a lot more for cars. Because, when I buy a car, I tell the dealer how much I will pay, and if they don't accept it, I'm gone. They don't intimidate me at all.

Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 1988386)

I think you might mean Phillips Toyota Jenkins does not sell new Toyota’s. Both are bad to do business with.
Get out of the BUBBLE when shopping for a new vehicle.

Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1988569)

Phillips Toyota is outside the bubble. Purchased a car there almost 6 years ago, go there for service and have NEVER been approached by a salesperson, in the store or on the phone. Now Phillips Buick GMC was a different story when we were looking to trade in the Lexus.....high pressure, didn't listen, wanted to escalate to bring a manager in.....we left. The sales guy at phillips Toyota was low key, easy to talk to, responsive....even the finance guy was great even though we weren't using them....part of the process. Sales guy was old school, he retired two years ago. Approaching 100K miles, assuming we are about half way to trade in time.

Originally Posted by falcon1 (Post 1988300)

This happened six months ago but I'm still outraged over it. Took my 2016 Honda CRV to Jenkins in Leesburg for servicing. After about 45 minutes waiting a young man said he wanted to talk about my vehicle. First, let me say it was a beautiful vehicle and we loved it! He said our CRV was 4 years old and had been in an accident. Which I knew as I had been sideswiped and the CRV repaired by my insurance co. He said the value had dropped greatly. Wanted me to buy a new CRV. I didn't want to. He then brought another man over, now 2 hours, then brought a third man over, 3 hrs, then a fourth salesman over, now nearly 5 PM. I am 90 years old and was very confused on what to do, as was my wife. I finally gave up, too mentally drained, to learn I could not have a candy-apple red one, they only had 2020's left, and would have to take a silver one. I wanted to have my brand new Michelin tires put on it; told I could not as different size. I wanted heated seats, not available. Did it have my old reliable GPS...no, had to use a cell phone but I only have a flip-phone. Totally unhappy with the pressure to take the car I now have. I'm too old and tired to deal with all that. Yesterday even with my wife's cell phone I couldn't get the navigation to work. Why do we have to be targeted by dealers like that? Jenkin's is great for service but low bar for harassment of seniors!

Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 1988633)

If you are a member of Costco, use their car buying service, they send you to a dealer that is in the program , and the price is set, no games.

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1988718)

Now is a good time to wait to buy a car. EVs are about to explode on the scene and ICE cars will be struggling to sell. I expect sales on ICE equipped cars to start happening next year to empty the supply line.

So, my prediction is we will see a serious drop in new car prices and a serious rise in used ICE cars.

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 1988729)

Yeah, the whole thing is disgusting. Wait until the electric grid goes down for over a week after a horrendous storm and see how people will like living with no air conditioning or heat or vehicle to move themselves around. Life is moving to the nightmare stage.