Crime will never be under control in Chicago, NYC, LA, SF, and their corresponding states. If they counted all the crime it would be much higher. Taxes will never be decreased in these cities/states where DeSantis wants to eliminate property taxes. Also, if you are going to compare taxes, include all of them, don’t cherry pick so they look better. None of those cities/states will eliminate their income taxes where we have 0. Let’s also compare cost of gas? We are less than 1/2 of the avg of California, and over $1.50 less than Washington, Oregon, and Chicago.
As for music, where can you hear good music for free every night of the year, in 4 locations? Sure you might go to bars to hear a little band but the drinks will cost you. If you go to any concerts it’s going to cost you.
I can go on and on.
The nice thing in the states, if you don’t like it here, MOVE!!

Log cabin originally built in 1800s great grandfather. traditional notch logs no nails perfectly lined with very few gaps. Painful upkeep, of logs and the snow removal on the roof. Passed down for $1 to his daughter. Her daughter, Adding indoor plumbing, and tripling size in 1980s, keeping with logs of the original.

Our children spent their summers at the cabin declined. Our grandchildren, will be next owners backing to 10,000 acres of state land, with lakefront all for $1.
The lake house is also a passed down generation home with sweeping views. Both require lots of upkeep, and must be passed down for 5 generations.

Taxes are 1/2 of any of our TV homes, our family house will keep for a few more years then pass down to our granddaughter.

Amenity fee is not on our yearly tax bill. That’s paid monthly.

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So far another bloody weekend in Chicago, they probably need federal help, another six people were killed and more than two dozen shot in the municipality since Friday afternoon.

OP, did you conveniently forget State income taxes in IL? Hey, most of us have come from other cities, so we have gotten our fill of that "vibrant" life. Rather than go outside and risk my life in those vibrant cities, I'll enjoy the rest of my time right here in beautiful TV!

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Up north we had the “Forest preserve district’s” taxes, which provided parks and recreation facilities comparable to, though by no means the equivalent of The Villages amenities, so yes I include those as taxes. As I said, the value for dollars paid for government services here is much better.

It might as well be, it is paid for the availability of parks and recreation services mostly provided by municipal (district) government.

Ten years ago.

Now that’s funny… whine about whiner’s?

That's impressive, the natural beauty mst be outstanding.

Please inform us what MI has to do with villages vs Illinois?

Aren’t maintenance fees on yearly tax bill above monthly amenities bill?

Exactly, and many have and more are ready to follow. Disneyland may be the perfect cup of tea for some, others not at all. The nice things about the United States are all the beautiful places to live.

You're living right where you need to be, with old people in a Disney type atmosphere and poor medical arrangements. Stay right here.