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shaw8700@outlook.com 01-02-2024 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2287291)
But yet, homes are still being sold.

I’m so jealous! LOL!!

Altavia 01-03-2024 02:54 PM

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I drove into Dabney and Lake Denham a few weeks ago. There were hundreds of available homes and lots to chose from. After seeing the pictures of the boards filled with new buyers, I checked the Villages site. Nothing has changed since I have been there. Still hundreds of homes available, many, many lots in the Enclave and Moultrie Creek, and over 70 homes with a discounted price. I recommend anyone looking for a new home check the area before buying. Maybe there is a good reason the same hundreds of homes and lots are sitting with no interest from buyers.

There is life outside the Villages. That area has gyms, shopping and restaurants 6-10 mi away in Leesburg and only 20 min from Clermont. Orlando Regional Hospital is less than an hour away.

Things have evolved and the southern inventory bubble is moving south. Looks like 70+ new home closings on the board this week, that's over $30 million in revenue the first week of 2024.

Randall55 01-03-2024 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2287738)
There is life outside the Villages. That area has gyms, shopping and restaurants 6-10 mi away in Leesburg and only 20 min from Clermont. Orlando Regional Hospital is less than an hour away.

Things have evolved and the southern inventory bubble is moving south. Looks like 70+ new home closings on the board this week, that's over $30 million in revenue the first week of 2024.

Posting the boards of new buyers is not a way to determine where one should build a home. A potential buyer should scout the areas for themselves. I noticed on ALL the boards there is quite a long list of new buyers from Florida. On every board, they are the majority. This could be investors. Not many want to live on a street full of rentals. Or, they are Villagers relocating which skews the numbers. On the recent board you posted, 40 of the 70 new buyers are from Florida. This sends off red flags. It is always best to RESEARCH INFORMATION yourself before buying.

By the way, are you a sales rep? It seems you have FAR to much interest in steering potential buyers to purchase ANYTHING. Who consistently takes pictures of Villages sales boards? And, who has permission to post pictures of buyers at their closings? It seems to me, you work for the Villages Sales team.

Randall55 01-03-2024 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2287738)
There is life outside the Villages. That area has gyms, shopping and restaurants 6-10 mi away in Leesburg and only 20 min from Clermont. Orlando Regional Hospital is less than an hour away.

Things have evolved and the southern inventory bubble is moving south. Looks like 70+ new home closings on the board this week, that's over $30 million in revenue the first week of 2024.

After several years of living in the south, required daily travel became a nuisance that we no longer wanted. Our life is much easier and relaxed now that we have returned to the northern area of the Villages. If you don't mind driving to places one hour away, I am glad you are happy. To each their own. We are fortunate to live in a community with many options.

BTW: If I wanted to drive to Orlando Regional from the northern section, it is merely a 15 minute longer drive. So, what is your point? New construction homes are 15 minutes closer to Orlando? That doesn't sound like a big incentive to buy new construction.

Altavia 01-03-2024 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2287742)
Posting the boards of new buyers is not a way to determine where one should build a home. A potential buyer should scout the areas for themselves. I noticed on ALL the boards there is quite a long list of new buyers from Florida. On every board, they are the majority. This could be investors. Not many want to live on a street full of rentals. Or, they are Villagers relocating which skews the numbers. On the recent board you posted, 40 of the 70 new buyers are from Florida. This sends off red flags. It is always best to RESEARCH INFORMATION yourself before buying.

By the way, are you a sales rep? It seems you have FAR to much interest in steering potential buyers to purchase ANYTHING. Who consistently takes pictures of Villages sales boards? And, who has permission to post pictures of buyers at their closings? It seems to me, you work for the Villages Sales team.

Nope, just responding with data to posts sounding like someone who couldn't pass muster on the Villages Sales team coming here posting misinformation with an ax to grind.

Altavia 01-03-2024 06:06 PM

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After several years of living in the south, required daily travel became a nuisance that we no longer wanted. Our life is much easier and relaxed now that we have returned to the northern area of the Villages. If you don't mind driving to places one hour away, I am glad you are happy. To each their own. We are fortunate to live in a community with many options.

BTW: If I wanted to drive to Orlando Regional from the northern section, it is merely a 15 minute longer drive. So, what is your point? New construction homes are 15 minutes closer to Orlando? That doesn't sound like a big incentive to buy new construction.

Good for you, hope you're happy.

Lookie here, business is so bad it seems another new Village about to materialize across from Eastport.

frayedends 01-03-2024 06:09 PM

It looks like in Lake County alone the Villages sold over 2000 new homes in 2023 and about 210 in December. That's not a huge sales slump as far as I know. Maybe comparatively it is? But the homes in my area of Lake Denham are being sold at a steady pace.

Plus I love how close we are to everything. ;)

Things slow down nationwide around the holidays. 2023 was also a slow year all over. Low inventory, high interest rates all over the country. So people wanting to move may not have been able to move just yet.

Randall55 01-03-2024 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2287760)
Nope, just responding with data to posts sounding like someone who couldn't pass muster on the Villages Sales team coming here posting misinformation with an ax to grind.

I have no ax to grind. Just posting my experiences. It seems odd that you have several pictures of buyers at their closings. I still believe you work for the Villages. Who has access to those types of pictures? I sure don't!

frayedends 01-03-2024 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2287773)
I have no ax to grind. Just posting my experiences. It seems odd that you have several pictures of buyers at their closings. I still believe you work for the Villages. Who has access to those types of pictures? I sure don't!

The Villages posts those pics on Facebook. FYI, I could have posted them also.

Randall55 01-03-2024 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2287768)
It looks like in Lake County alone the Villages sold over 2000 new homes in 2023 and about 210 in December. That's not a huge sales slump as far as I know. Maybe comparatively it is? But the homes in my area of Lake Denham are being sold at a steady pace.

Plus I love how close we are to everything. ;)

Things slow down nationwide around the holidays. 2023 was also a slow year all over. Low inventory, high interest rates all over the country. So people wanting to move may not have been able to move just yet.

Great! Someone who lives in Lake Denham. In the past, new villages have sold out very quickly. Yet, homes in Lake Denham have been sitting empty for months. Is there a reason for this? I am asking because I am a contractor. I would like to buy a home to remodel then sell. I have been scouting the area for months. Same homes (and lots) sitting empty month after month. I do not understand why. Any info you can provide will help. Thanks!

Altavia 01-03-2024 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2287773)
I have no ax to grind. Just posting my experiences. It seems odd that you have several pictures of buyers at their closings. I still believe you work for the Villages. Who has access to those types of pictures? I sure don't!

LOL - They're from Facebook, posting them to show 250-350 new homes are still being sold a month in spite of your (intentionally?) obtuse claims sales are in the toilet..

asianthree 01-03-2024 09:30 PM

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We did not mind ordering items on-line. Each time we ran out of bread, milk, aspirin or cold medicine, we had to drive 20 to 30 minutes to pick it up.

It is easy to say you do not need a fitness facility. I am 60 yrs old and injured my knee. We had to travel 40 minutes to get to fitness machines that would help my recovery. Doctors? 40 minutes away.

Restaurants? You can count the number on your fingers. Each one serves below average food. Another 40 minute travel time to add to your day.

Let's not forget the plans for a new hospital has been scratched. The choice in the south is one-star rated Leesburg Hospital, outpatient care, and a small emergency facility that was crowded each time we needed it.

At 60 you are not the demographic I am speaking of. Many residents are aging in place and rarely leave there comfort zone.
We can be at a grocery in 5 minutes, yet I won’t shop there. Working 60 hours a week still drove close to an hour to grocery. Now I have 20 hours a day to literally fill all the down time, and only need to see a physician once a year.

After 40 plus years in trauma, stepping into a ED department has been the same in every state. Full of people who should have gone to urgent care, doc in a box, or just called the office in the morning. Blaming staff for the non emergent, bogging down the system, will never be fixed. All the while that stubbed toe is angry that nobody is taking care of them, because staff is in trauma rooms keeping people alive.

Goldwing also addressed the new hospital more than once. Most don’t realize just to get CON, it can take years.

Randall55 01-03-2024 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2287778)
LOL - They're from Facebook, posting them to show 250-350 new homes are still being sold a month in spite of your (intentionally?) obtuse claims sales are in the toilet..

Those pictures are the property of the Villages. You could be looking at a potential lawsuit if you post their pictures without authority to do so. Yet, you continue to do it. Which makes me believe you work for the Villages. I doubt you are oblivious to these rules and the potential harm you can inflict by posting pictures of buyers at their closings.

My claims have not gone down the toilet. The types of homes that I have interest in buying have been sitting for months in Lake Denham. Lots to build these types of homes are also sitting in the Enclave and Moultrie Creek.Your pictures of buyers closing on their style of home choice (and area) does nothing to change this fact.

frayedends 01-04-2024 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2287775)
Great! Someone who lives in Lake Denham. In the past, new villages have sold out very quickly. Yet, homes in Lake Denham have been sitting empty for months. Is there a reason for this? I am asking because I am a contractor. I would like to buy a home to remodel then sell. I have been scouting the area for months. Same homes (and lots) sitting empty month after month. I do not understand why. Any info you can provide will help. Thanks!

You want to buy a new construction home to remodel? Okay.

As I said in a previous post, the homes in my area are selling a few per week. As you would expect, view sites are gone fast. Interior lots are sitting longer.

There are likely many reasons for a slow down. First, the market has been slow. I think I read something like slowest in 12 years.

Second we are just getting out of the holiday season, which is generally slow.

Third, it's still a slow time of year until Spring market. It may not matter as much in Florida but people up north have to sell in the best market.

4th, I suspect people are waiting for Eastport areas. I think Moultrie Creek is selling fairly quickly. Personally we went to visit, didn't care for the Eastport area as it looked too wide open without a lot of preserves. I could have been wrong but when we found a great lot with a great model we decided we liked Lake Denham.

We are 30 minute cart ride to Brownwood and 10 minutes to Sawgrass. Leesburg stuff is very close. I'm a bit baffled by the people saying we lack amenities. We have 3 decent rec centers. Franklin, Homestead, Ezel, all very close.

One downfall of Lake Denham is no neighborhood pool, which is odd. We have Dabney if we want it.

Altavia 01-04-2024 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2287798)
Those pictures are the property of the Villages. You could be looking at a potential lawsuit if you post their pictures without authority to do so. Yet, you continue to do it. Which makes me believe you work for the Villages. I doubt you are oblivious to these rules and the potential harm you can inflict by posting pictures of buyers at their closings.


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