West Facing Lanai - no-no or overblown?

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Old 04-21-2018, 12:05 AM
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The thing with the view, is if you are facing the west, it is so unbearably hot in the summer you will need to pull shades down or somehow protect yourself from the direct sun. Consequently you won't see the view. And one more point - the concrete decking in the lanai will heat up tremendously and act like a heat sink during the day if the sun is shining on it. Even if you pull down the shades at 4:00 pm say, so you can sit outside, it will still be hotter than the east facing lanai that was in the shade all afternoon. Lastly, if you look at ads for pre-owned homes, the ads will feature "east facing lanai" if one is available, because it is an obvious selling point.
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I have had 2 west facing lanais here inTV. I prefer them and enjoy beautiful sunsets πŸ€—
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Well, let me give you a perspective...from someone who has both.

I have a wrap-around lanai of which part faces west...and part faces north.

Even with blinds, the west facing portion is almost uninhabitable during the summer due to the heat...and the north portion is plenty warm with even the fan going.

If I had a choice, I would have preferred the entire lanai facing north...and a south facing front of the house (which I have).
I agree. I guess it depends on a person's preferences as far as heat. Judging by the responses, some people like sitting outside in in the sun in 100 degree heat in the summer watching the sunset. Good for them. And many people don't. Our neighbors across the street had a west facing lanai, and sold the house because of it. She said it was something she hadn't thought of when they purchased, and it was just brutal out there in the afternoon sun. This is a link to an article about Florida lanai's that may be helpful: What’s up with a Lanai? | New Floridians
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Having come from the oft mentioned east facing lanai which btw was unbearably hot in the summer we now have a NW facing which should be hot but isn’t. Is actually pleasant during the hottest days. What’s the difference ? The depth of the lanai is 6’ wider, is fully open on three sides, is not situated within ally like backyards. We benefit from any breeze and the sun never reaches the rear block wall to radiate back heat.


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Having come from the oft mentioned east facing lanai which btw was unbearably hot in the summer we now have a NW facing which should be hot but isn’t. Is actually pleasant during the hottest days. What’s the difference ? The depth of the lanai is 6’ wider, is fully open on three sides, is not situated within ally like backyards. We benefit from any breeze and the sun never reaches the rear block wall to radiate back heat.


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Good point, it does depend a lot on how it is constructed. Ours also is open on 3 sides and has space on all 3 sides for air movement. We also have a large ceiling fan which moves the air.
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There are many things to consider when building or buying a house here in The Villages. When we were looking for a homesite here, the second time, we had chosen a model that was a bit wider than others and could only be situated on certain lots that were available at the time. All of the view lots in The Village that they were building in at that time had been snapped up in seven hours. This lot has a pretty good view between houses of the golf course and the sunset. We had a west facing lanai before in Hadley so we were aware it was gonna be hot in the afternoon evening. We purchased and built and bought Coolaroo Sun shades that cut down on the heat and you can see through but it is still hot in July, August and September, but now we have a pool and it is doable. We have thought about trying to install an awning inside the birdcage to block the sun, but can't think of an attractive way to do it. So we focus on all of the pluses of our home and don't use the back yard during the hottest part of the day. We have a front porch we can use at that time.

Compared with other challenges in life the west facing lanai isn't too big a deal in the scheme of things.
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It really depends on the person. Our first house had north facing lanai, while still warm in the summer, it was cold during January February March. Second house the same, however had burm planted and helped with the cold.

Third house has southern facing lanai, with birdcage at east side. During summer months our grands and other half sit in the birdcage with full sun, any time of the day. I on the other hand hate the heat, and only sit in the lanai and bird cage in fall, and winter. We will be adding some type of shade this year.
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I have had 2 west facing lanais here inTV. I prefer them and enjoy beautiful sunsets πŸ€—
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Judging by the responses, some people like sitting outside in in the sun in 100 degree heat in the summer watching the sunset.
Nobody is watching sunsets in 100 degree heat from their west facing lanais.

Here is a temp graph for TV on July 19, 2017.

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As you can see in the top graph, highs for the day were in low 90s which lasted from 1 to 6 pm. Sunset was at 8:23pm. By Prime sunset watching time of 8pm, temp was down to a pleasant 75 degrees. Typical summer temps are at their peak from 1 to 6 pm, during that time you deploy solar screens on west facing lanais which you can lift when sunset time arrives.
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July 19 was a poor day to pick if you are trying to make the point that 75F is typical at sunset. It appears that a gust front came through before some rain that started at about 8:30, which dropped the temperature significantly. I can show you numerous days during the summer where the temperature is in the mid to upper 80s (F) at 8:30PM. Also, temperatures rarely get to 100F here. Also, there is something wrong with your graph as it shows a constant 87F for 5 hours. The high for that day appears to be around 92F at about 5:30 but had also dropped to about 86F at 4:00 (depends on your exact location).

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Nobody is watching sunsets in 100 degree heat from their west facing lanais.

Here is a temp graph for TV on July 19, 2017.

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As you can see in the top graph, highs for the day were in low 90s which lasted from 1 to 6 pm. Sunset was at 8:23pm. By Prime sunset watching time of 8pm, temp was down to a pleasant 75 degrees. Typical summer temps are at their peak from 1 to 6 pm, during that time you deploy solar screens on west facing lanais which you can lift when sunset time arrives.

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Nobody is watching sunsets in 100 degree heat from their west facing lanais.

Here is a temp graph for TV on July 19, 2017.

Attachment 74843

As you can see in the top graph, highs for the day were in low 90s which lasted from 1 to 6 pm. Sunset was at 8:23pm. By Prime sunset watching time of 8pm, temp was down to a pleasant 75 degrees. Typical summer temps are at their peak from 1 to 6 pm, during that time you deploy solar screens on west facing lanais which you can lift when sunset time arrives.
To show a temperature graph without a humidity graph Vs how hot do you feel is almost meaningless. I will illustrate. We used to environmentally test our products for certification worldwide. Three zones are pretty much considered within normal ranges for to get the certification
1- standard = 72 degrees F and 45% relative humidity
2- cool = 60 degrees F 20% rh
3- hot = 80 degrees F 80 % rh
We had operators paid to run the equipment usually in 10 - 12 hour shifts. When at 80/80 the operators got paid a differential like shift workers would get paid for a night shift.
90 degrees F 10% rh is very comfortable 90 degrees F 90% rh unbearable to me.
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When it's 100 degrees it is hot no matter which way your lanai faces
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When it's 100 degrees it is hot no matter which way your lanai faces
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To show a temperature graph without a humidity graph Vs how hot do you feel is almost meaningless. I will illustrate. We used to environmentally test our products for certification worldwide. Three zones are pretty much considered within normal ranges for to get the certification
1- standard = 72 degrees F and 45% relative humidity
2- cool = 60 degrees F 20% rh
3- hot = 80 degrees F 80 % rh
We had operators paid to run the equipment usually in 10 - 12 hour shifts. When at 80/80 the operators got paid a differential like shift workers would get paid for a night shift.
90 degrees F 10% rh is very comfortable 90 degrees F 90% rh unbearable to me.


Humidity plays a huge role in how hot it feels. Heat Index
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When it's 100 degrees it is hot no matter which way your lanai faces
This is a point I attempted to make earlier. I completely agree.
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