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kansasr 04-07-2020 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1742080)
Statistically, you cannot extrapolate 5 deaths in a county with our population to mean anything

How about 2 more today, 7 total

tophcfa 04-07-2020 10:26 PM

All these posts and no one answered the OP’s original question. Easy answer, Championship Golf!

golfing eagles 04-08-2020 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by kansasr (Post 1742328)
How about 2 more today, 7 total

And you think that statistically changes anything????

dewilson58 04-08-2020 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1742373)
And you think that statistically changes anything????




Yes, slightly. Now the stat is: 8% of cases die.

golfing eagles 04-08-2020 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1742383)
Yes, slightly. Now the stat is: 8% of cases die.

Way too small a sampling size----just the fact that Sumter County is 8% and the national average is like 2% makes it an outlier.

Only 1001 people tested in Sumter with 84 positive and 900 negative

So the death rate is 8% of 8% of those tested, = 0.64%. PLUS, many of those tested received the test because of symptoms, so the cohort was pre-selected. The rest were asymptomatic and part of the UF study.

dewilson58 04-08-2020 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1742385)
Way too small a sampling size----just the fact that Sumter County is 8% and the national average is like 2% makes it an outlier.

Only 1001 people tested in Sumter with 84 positive and 900 negative

So the death rate is 8% of 8% of those tested, = 0.64%. PLUS, many of those tested received the test because of symptoms, so the cohort was pre-selected. The rest were asymptomatic and part of the UF study.




Actually not too small. Of the cases in Sumter, 8% die. Not looking at tested or total population. I'm not comparing to national.

kansasr 04-08-2020 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1742373)
And you think that statistically changes anything????

No, but it does mean 7 of our neighbors are no longer with us and there will be more unless YOU STAY HOME.

UpNorth 04-08-2020 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1742348)
All these posts and no one answered the OP’s original question. Easy answer, Championship Golf!

Yes. Outside The Villages. Playing solo. At half the price. Did it the other day. Best round of the year, by far.

golfing eagles 04-08-2020 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1742454)
Actually not too small. Of the cases in Sumter, 8% die. Not looking at tested or total population. I'm not comparing to national.

Forced to disagree
7 deaths out of 90 positive tests out of 1013 tested.

That's 7.8% mortality among 90 positive tests that were for the most part pre-selected for symptoms.
I'd have to run a detailed statistical analysis to get a P value, but eyeballing it I doubt it is <0.05
There are a few on TOTV well versed in these types of statistics, would like to know what they think.

dewilson58 04-08-2020 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1742812)
Forced to disagree
7 deaths out of 90 positive tests out of 1013 tested.

That's 7.8% mortality among 90 positive tests that were for the most part pre-selected for symptoms.
I'd have to run a detailed statistical analysis to get a P value, but eyeballing it I doubt it is <0.05
There are a few on TOTV well versed in these types of statistics, would like to know what they think.


:1rotfl:

Forced to laugh. It's like a doctor doing 90 surgeries because of pre-selected symptoms. If seven die, find another doctor.



And there is no P in Sumter.

golfing eagles 04-08-2020 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1742888)
:1rotfl:

Forced to laugh. It's like a doctor doing 90 surgeries because of pre-selected symptoms. If seven die, find another doctor.



And there is no P in Sumter.


Bad analogy. More like picking his worst 90 surgeries out of thousands and 7 died

Didn't see a "P" in any of my Sumters. Did you faux pas????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

dewilson58 04-08-2020 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1742896)
Bad analogy. More like picking his worst 90 surgeries out of thousands and 7 died

Didn't see a "P" in any of my Sumters. Did you faux pas????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:


:blahblahblah:

Wrong again.

biker1 04-08-2020 04:44 PM

You have me interested. What, precisely, is the hypothesis?

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1742812)
Forced to disagree
7 deaths out of 90 positive tests out of 1013 tested.

That's 7.8% mortality among 90 positive tests that were for the most part pre-selected for symptoms.
I'd have to run a detailed statistical analysis to get a P value, but eyeballing it I doubt it is <0.05
There are a few on TOTV well versed in these types of statistics, would like to know what they think.


golfing eagles 04-08-2020 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1742918)
You have me interested. What is the hypothesis?

I didn't think 7 deaths, 90 positive tests, and 1013 people tested was a large enough sample to draw the conclusion that a Sumter County resident has a 7.8% chance of dying if he/she contracts the virus, especially since it's a one off from the national and state averages. Somebody disagreed. He's one of the good guys, just wrong this time.

biker1 04-08-2020 06:13 PM

We are looking at an average age of 65+ for Sumter County (80% of Sumter County lives in The Villages). The sample size is small but we do know that age is a factor. If you are tested positive, I suspect you will have issues. I think the national and state averages are misleading unless age is factored in. I don't believe numbers from other countries are useful since their counting of deaths from coronavirus is different than ours. However, I suspect you are correct in your hypothesis.


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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1742919)
I didn't think 7 deaths, 90 positive tests, and 1013 people tested was a large enough sample to draw the conclusion that a Sumter County resident has a 7.8% chance of dying if he/she contracts the virus, especially since it's a one off from the national and state averages. Somebody disagreed. He's one of the good guys, just wrong this time.



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