Well lets see.
1. Any chemicals sprayed into the waters are poison. I don't care if they are OK'd by our corrupt gov't. You know darn well they are toxic.

2. HOA fees are high. I'm including the bond fees in there when I say "HOA fee".

3. Any neighborhood that has a weaselly little snitch running around taking notes (including the community stand people) who then send threatening letters as opposed to actually talking to people and maybe see if there is a valid reason or extenuating circumstance for the infraction. That's messed up. Let's not forget the anonymous snitching that was happening by non-locals that The Villages had to address. PLUS, when we own our own land and the streets are public for the life of me I don't understand how HOAs are legal.

I used to think MN stood for Minnesota, turns out it stands for MiniSomalia.

FWIW, my good friend who lives in his paid-off home in South Orange County (CA) bought over 200 acres near his hometown of Shakopee and commutes back and forth several times a year to enjoy the best of both worlds - so in reality, I understand the appeal of rural MN.

Might be time to stop digging

Sadly the Twin Cities blight on MN is exactly that.......MiniSomalia.

Figure The Developer will go mafia on me and I'll disappear? "Jimmy Hoffa" me under a building in Eastport?

More likely you will get “Oren Millered”, although they are currently dealing with much bigger problems!

Guests and relatives are told about the rules and have a vested interest in keeping harmony for the resident after they are gone too. STR renters don’t, so the behavior can be very different. But you already knew that. Only slum landlords defend STRs in TV.

When we moved here we were informed that short term rentals were not allowed. If the Weed Police can sniff out a dandelion, surly they can find a short term rental violator.

But dandelions don’t create demand for new homes.

"1. Any chemicals sprayed into the waters are poison. I don't care if they are OK'd by our corrupt gov't. You know darn well they are toxic."

No, I don't know that. Neither does the EPA or those "toxic" chemicals would be banned. Unless one thinks the EPA is friendly to polluters when they fine them upwards of $50,000/day for each violation.

"2. HOA fees are high. I'm including the bond fees in there when I say "HOA fee".


There is no HOA fee. Our amenity fees at $195/month are EXTREMELY low in comparison with other Florida communities, and we get much, much more for our money. I think there may be some misunderstanding of what the bond is. (Instead of building the cost of initial infrastructure into the price of a home, they float out a bond issue which investors buy on the open market. That bond, similar to most other bonds, pays the investor an interest rate, usually the term is 30 years, and the homeowner has to pay it back over time with interest or pay it off in a lump sum) This has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with HOAs, amenity fees, or the price of tea in China. There is no difference in buying a new home for $360K with a $40K bond and a home elsewhere for $400K without one.

"3. Any neighborhood that has a weaselly little snitch running around taking notes (including the community stand people) who then send threatening letters as opposed to actually talking to people and maybe see if there is a valid reason or extenuating circumstance for the infraction. That's messed up. Let's not forget the anonymous snitching that was happening by non-locals that The Villages had to address. PLUS, when we own our own land and the streets are public for the life of me I don't understand how HOAs are legal."


Since we don't have a HOA, the legality is moot. (However, thousands of communities with private home ownership and public streets across the USA have LEGAL HOAs), so that point is even "mooter". And what's "messed up" is people signing to obey deed restrictions and then ignoring them. Obey the agreed upon deed restrictions and there will be no "weaselly little snitch" or letters.

Who "informed" you? And of course, you have that in writing and can upload it to this thread. Uh huh, thought so.

I'm always amused at how easily (and inaccurately) the word "entitlement" is thrown around. Disagreeing with someone else's opinion is not "entitlement". Stating one's own opinion is not "entitlement". Calling out someone who has made up their own facts is not entitlement. Letting your dog defecate on someone else's property----that's entitlement. Walking 4 abreast on an MMP is entitlement. They publish the Oxford English Dictionary for a reason.

You were probably told wrong (a few areas do prohibit them). It’s surprising though that after eight years of researching the Villages you relied on “we were informed.”

Huh???? Or did that mean to state "support" instead of "contrary"?, in which case I'll again make reference to the dictionary

You seem to know quite a bit about the discussions that have been held between people you have never met.

Nice try (again). Not defending STRs specifically, defending property rights for all property owners.