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Tunesmith 07-11-2021 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bruce213 (Post 1971426)
You can install a light switch on your outdoor lights with a flashing mode. On/off/flashing then if there is an emergency you can unlock the front door turn on flashing lights so responders know which house quicker.

I did a quick internet search and these emergency flasher light switches can be a bit hard to find. I suggest you try using the search terms "911 locator switch" or "home locator switch". I found one called "911 Switch" at 911switch dot com, but it's pretty expensive at $150. Another is made by Pass & Seymour, model number TM8LOCATORW which is somewhere between $50 and $75. There might be some switches that can also be Alexa-controlled, but I have no further info on them. Good luck!

LaneyBeckler 07-11-2021 09:34 AM

Bed safety rail
 
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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 1971009)
We added under cabinet lighting, a UPS for the electric recliners, additional fire/smoke detectors (garage and laundry room). Added on grab bar in the walk in shower years ago. We have 5 wireless landline phones so we are always close to a phone. Added weather alert radio a few years ago, and made a plan for severe weather.

A bed safety rail that you can insert under the mattress is a great way to prevent falling out of, and for balance getting in and out of bed, especially when on medication or when otherwise disoriented. Many rails also have storage pockets.

GrumpyOldMan 07-11-2021 09:36 AM

Interesting thread.

My first thought was home modifications that apply to growing older, grab bars, non-slip driveway, walk-in showers, etc. All of which I see and most of which I agree with.

Then along came the "guns" and security systems. That is very interesting to me, how some of us consider home safety to be things like slipping and falling, and others think of someone breaking into their homes to do them harm.

It is sad to me that so many feel so insecure that they feel more of a need for guns when growing older. I am NOT saying you should not have guns if you want them, I am not saying you should not be allowed to. I just think it is sad that so many feel they need them.

My personal answer to home security concerning robbery has been, "My plan is to ask if they need help carrying anything out, or if I can get them some refreshments while they are looting". My life and their lives are worth more to me than stuff. But that is just my opinion, I expect everyone else disagrees with me.

Villagesgal 07-11-2021 09:46 AM

Installed a short grab bar at the entrance to out walk in shower to hold onto for step over to get in and out along with the regular grab bars in shower and bathroom.

Travelingal702 07-11-2021 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1970836)
I know we need to add grab bars, but am curious where/why from some who have already done it.

My current focus is mainly the master bath/shower/tub/potty.

Get rid of all the small scatter rugs! They will trip you up when least expected.

kcrazorbackfan 07-11-2021 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by cj1040 (Post 1971458)
Are all of these gun remarks serious? A gun is the last thing on our minds...you are not living out in the middle of the woods somewhere or in an inner city area. The houses here look so much alike that your chances of inviting a break in are very low. There are way too many guns and way too much drinking and that is a bad combination. We have motion lights, sturdy rugs that dont slip or bunch up and we lock up whenever we leave.

Are you being serious when asking the question on gun remarks? Do you think all the homes in The Villages are owned by “Ward and June Cleaver” types of people. There are too many of the “want to hurt you over any little thing” types and also too many adult kids living with their parent(s) that don’t think twice about breaking into homes.

My wife and I both will be the survivors if someone does their best to harm us. And, for your info, we don’t drink.

Tsalla Apopka 07-11-2021 10:12 AM

Grab Bars - The OP asked about GRAB BARS>>>>>
 
I need help all the time in moving safely.
Grab bars are very useful. I have one beside commode and both at the entrance to the shower and also inside the shower. A portable shower chair goes in with me.
Furniture placement in the house is also important. I lose my balance while walking through the house so it's important that a piece of furniture, chair, couch or sturdy table, is in reach if I start to topple.
Never thought I'd need this kind of stuff but not too proud to use all tools available.

GrumpyOldMan 07-11-2021 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1971476)
Are you being serious when asking the question on gun remarks? Do you think all the homes in The Villages are owned by “Ward and June Cleaver” types of people. There are too many of the “want to hurt you over any little thing” types and also too many adult kids living with their parent(s) that don’t think twice about breaking into homes.

My wife and I both will be the survivors if someone does their best to harm us. And, for your info, we don’t drink.

Well, if it makes you feel safer, go for it.

"For every time a gun in the home was used in a self-defense or legally justifiable shooting, there were four unintentional shootings, seven criminal assaults or homicides, and 11 attempted or completed suicides."

nih.gov

GrumpyOldMan 07-11-2021 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsalla Apopka (Post 1971480)
I need help all the time in moving safely.
Grab bars are very useful. I have one beside commode and both at the entrance to the shower and also inside the shower. A portable shower chair goes in with me.
Furniture placement in the house is also important. I lose my balance while walking through the house so it's important that a piece of furniture, chair, couch or sturdy table, is in reach if I start to topple.
Never thought I'd need this kind of stuff but not too proud to use all tools available.

Good for you, dealing with reality and not denying it.

All this and more is why we moved to The Villages. We are not golfers, we are not very social people, but we are getting older and lived in an older home full of issues, 30 minutes from the hospital, and 1/2 mile from our nearest neighbor on some acreage. We came and researched here, and found 5 minute EMT response times, we found Urgent Care facilities in every villa, the new homes with wide doors (wheelchair accessible), grab rails, walk-in showers, neighborhood watch patrols, and neighbors that pay attention to each other. All that makes us feel safer - so, my answer to this thread is we bought a new home here, to make us feel safer.

sheralcaswell 07-11-2021 10:32 AM

Night walking
 
I installed mini led nightlights everywhere. My house is never dark

JMintzer 07-11-2021 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by haysus7 (Post 1971395)
You should refer to your Tom Petty quote

Yeah, no...

I have a fire extinguisher... Do I worry about a fire?

I wear a seatbelt... Do I worry about an accident?

JMintzer 07-11-2021 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cj1040 (Post 1971458)
Are all of these gun remarks serious? A gun is the last thing on our minds...you are not living out in the middle of the woods somewhere or in an inner city area. The houses here look so much alike that your chances of inviting a break in are very low. There are way too many guns and way too much drinking and that is a bad combination. We have motion lights, sturdy rugs that dont slip or bunch up and we lock up whenever we leave.

Here's a novel idea...

If you don't want one... Don't buy one!

GrumpyOldMan 07-11-2021 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1971505)
Yeah, no...

I have a fire extinguisher... Do I worry about a fire?

I wear a seatbelt... Do I worry about an accident?


Excellent post!

So often it seems everything here has to be black or white. But, the reality is most things are gray. There are many things we each do every day that doesn't guarantee anything, but help. And I expect most people don't sit around fretting (worrying) over all of them...

I don't worry about people breaking into my house. (I did move to the villages with neighborhood watch and lots of nearby neighbors)

I don't worry about the water supply becoming contaminated (but I do have a whole house filter)

And on and on. But, I guess it is just too much "fun" to argue about everything - LOL

JMintzer 07-11-2021 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by cj1040 (Post 1971458)
Are all of these gun remarks serious? A gun is the last thing on our minds...you are not living out in the middle of the woods somewhere or in an inner city area. The houses here look so much alike that your chances of inviting a break in are very low. There are way too many guns and way too much drinking and that is a bad combination. We have motion lights, sturdy rugs that dont slip or bunch up and we lock up whenever we leave.

I currently live in one of the safest suburbs of DC, yet this happened... Two of the murdered girls babysat for my kids...

We were friends with the parents...

No one thought it could ever happen here... Yet it did...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archi...-95665e8ded88/

JMintzer 07-11-2021 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1971466)
Interesting thread.

My first thought was home modifications that apply to growing older, grab bars, non-slip driveway, walk-in showers, etc. All of which I see and most of which I agree with.

Then along came the "guns" and security systems. That is very interesting to me, how some of us consider home safety to be things like slipping and falling, and others think of someone breaking into their homes to do them harm.

It is sad to me that so many feel so insecure that they feel more of a need for guns when growing older. I am NOT saying you should not have guns if you want them, I am not saying you should not be allowed to. I just think it is sad that so many feel they need them.

My personal answer to home security concerning robbery has been, "My plan is to ask if they need help carrying anything out, or if I can get them some refreshments while they are looting". My life and their lives are worth more to me than stuff. But that is just my opinion, I expect everyone else disagrees with me.

Well, my home came with grab bars, non slip garage flooring, a walk in shower...

I have an alarm system up North, so why wouldn't I get one for the Southern abode?

My alarm also has a panic button in case of medical emergencies, so there's that...

I've seen too many videos of people being assaulted in DC, at restaurants I patronize to think the police will protect me on my wife, so I choose to take on that responsibility myself.

If you feel otherwise, that's certainly your choice. I have no qualms with that...

LianneMigiano 07-11-2021 10:55 AM

We forgot to remove a battery in an extra smoke detector that we had in the garage and then totally forgot the fact that we actually had the extra. More than two years later we started having a strange annoying, intermittent beep. After more than a few weeks we discovered the extra in it's box that was pushed way behind other stuff and finally removed the errant battery! This getting old is for the birds!!!

JMintzer 07-11-2021 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1971483)
Well, if it makes you feel safer, go for it.

"For every time a gun in the home was used in a self-defense or legally justifiable shooting, there were four unintentional shootings, seven criminal assaults or homicides, and 11 attempted or completed suicides."

nih.gov

That stat does not include the use of guns that were never fired...

Per the FBI, guns were used in 800K-2 MILLION times/year when not a single shot was fired...

rjm1cc 07-11-2021 10:59 AM

I would not leave the door unlock but you are correct. For my house it would take you an extra second to break the window in the door and reach in to unlock. I have seen key boxes you put a door key in and the emergency personnel can open to get the key to your home. Similar to what Realtors use for showing a home. Check your local county to see if they do it. A compromise might be a digital lock or a lock you can operate over wifi from you phone.

SacDQ 07-11-2021 11:03 AM

If you can accomplish all those outlined steps you most likely don’t require an emergency responder.

GrumpyOldMan 07-11-2021 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sheralcaswell (Post 1971500)
I installed mini led nightlights everywhere. My house is never dark

Yup, we got those and plugged a couple into every room. Works great costs almost nothing.

GrumpyOldMan 07-11-2021 11:10 AM

And for dog/per owners, don't forget the stickers on the front windows/doors that let people/rescuers know there are pets there. Both for the pets sake and for the EMTs. We have a 100 lb Great Pyrenees - not something the EMT wants to walk into unexpectedly.

GrumpyOldMan 07-11-2021 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1971519)
That stat does not include the use of guns that were never fired...

Per the FBI, guns were used in 800K-2 MILLION times/year when not a single shot was fired...

Good point, I wonder if there is any way to determine what difference in outcomes would have been if guns were not available.

Sadly (IMHO) with 300 million guns in circulation they are not going away, so, as I say, if you want them, go for it. I don't have to like it, but it is the law.

JMintzer 07-11-2021 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheralcaswell (Post 1971500)
I installed mini led nightlights everywhere. My house is never dark

Same. Very helpful...

JMintzer 07-11-2021 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1971507)
Excellent post!

So often it seems everything here has to be black or white. But, the reality is most things are gray. There are many things we each do every day that doesn't guarantee anything, but help. And I expect most people don't sit around fretting (worrying) over all of them...

I don't worry about people breaking into my house. (I did move to the villages with neighborhood watch and lots of nearby neighbors)

I don't worry about the water supply becoming contaminated (but I do have a whole house filter)

And on and on. But, I guess it is just too much "fun" to argue about everything - LOL

Ding! Ding! Ding!

JMintzer 07-11-2021 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1971526)
Good point, I wonder if there is any way to determine what difference in outcomes would have been if guns were not available.

Sadly (IMHO) with 300 million guns in circulation they are not going away, so, as I say, if you want them, go for it. I don't have to like it, but it is the law.

Okay, now you're scaring me...:icon_wink::icon_wink::icon_wink:

Westie Man 07-11-2021 11:35 AM

Senior assist
 
Coming Soon: The Senior Citizen Defender Pistol AttachmentThe Firearm Blog

GrumpyOldMan 07-11-2021 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Westie Man (Post 1971542)

Okay, I am NOT belittling your post - honest, but I found it amusing.

First, I didn't see anything in the article that indicated why that mod would be better suited for seniors as opposed to anyone else. It appears to be a marketing piece targeting seniors that are concerned they might not know or be able to handle a handgun.

I expect training would be a good or better expenditure of money.

And second, I actually laughed out loud at the comment it makes the gun so much more comfortable to hold - I KNOW it is important, but I imagined the customer asking at the gun shop, "I need a gun to kill someone before they kill me, and it is very important that it be comfortable, in case I have to kill lots of someones."

Velvet 07-11-2021 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1971302)
At 3 am I went out of bedroom to check the front door. Mindfully stepped over 85-lb dog lying half in and half out of the bedroom doorway. By the time I came back to the bedroom, I forgot the dog was there. Big brush burn on my arm, and it took two months for the bulge on my elbow to recede. I now have a mini flashlight on my night stand. Little things mean a lot.

I had a similar experience with my Goldie when I stepped out of the bathroom. Made a note to myself, next dog I have will not be the same color as the carpet.

GrumpyOldMan 07-11-2021 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1971586)
I had a similar experience with my Goldie when I stepped out of the bathroom. Made a note to myself, next dog I have will not be the same color as the carpet.

I think they still sell Ritz dye, you could dye your Goldie fluorescent orange? LOL!

I feel for you, we have a Great Pyrenees and a big Labrador... we have considered night lights on the dogs.

coffeebean 07-11-2021 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RICH1 (Post 1971018)
Have a circle of friends that check-in everyday with a Text & and a set time! Lever style door handles, grab bars and keep a cell phone handy! Keep your front door unlocked so the Paramedics can enter your home easier...

I'm from NY. We never leave our front door unlocked. Paramedics can break down the door if necessary but it remains locked all the time except when I'm out front working on the yard.

coffeebean 07-11-2021 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 1971099)
My wife insists we lock the screen door on the birdcage every night.

The screen door can be breached VERY EASILY with a knife. Just one slit in the screen and they are in. We never lock the screen door.

brianherlihy 07-11-2021 01:54 PM

i have more guns

GrumpyOldMan 07-11-2021 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1971593)
I'm from NY. We never leave our front door unlocked. Paramedics can break down the door if necessary but it remains locked all the time except when I'm out front working on the yard.

I think the post was referring to The Villages. Absolutely, different places have different circumstances.

I am totally, 99.999%, not worried about my home being broken into. With the tightly pack thousands of homes around me, and living in a dead-end circle it would take the thieves a long time to find their way to my house and decide I looked tastier than the other hundreds of houses they passed on the way to it.

Then there is my 110 lb Great Pyrenees.

I would love to get a picture of the thief's face when they came inside our home and came face to face with him. He was raised as a guard dog and doesn't take kindly to anyone on his property. Known as gentle giants, they are very calm and easy-going - until they aren't.

jbartle1 07-11-2021 03:08 PM

15 years ago, we bought an attack dachshund, assuming the robber will bend over to make attack easier.

GrumpyOldMan 07-11-2021 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jbartle1 (Post 1971616)
15 years ago, we bought an attack dachshund, assuming the robber will bend over to make attack easier.

lol!

I'm Popeye! 07-11-2021 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1971466)
Interesting thread.
My personal answer to home security concerning robbery has been, "My plan is to ask if they need help carrying anything out, or if I can get them some refreshments while they are looting". My life and their lives are worth more to me than stuff. But that is just my opinion, I expect everyone else disagrees with me.

Totally disagree with you!
Thief these days know that there are many wimps that make it easy for them to steal their property especially in a senior community, a gun is absolutely needed for personal security.

GrumpyOldMan 07-11-2021 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by I'm Popeye! (Post 1971620)
Totally disagree with you!
Thief these days know that there are many wimps that make it easy for them to steal their property especially in a senior community, a gun is absolutely needed for personal security.

Thank you for your input, I also totally disagree with you.

I value human life more than stuff. So, the gun is not an option for me.

Also, I assume you were not calling ME a wimp. My DI from Paris Island might disagree with you on that count.

Skoego 07-11-2021 03:21 PM

AARP Homefit Guide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1970836)
I know we need to add grab bars, but am curious where/why from some who have already done it.

My current focus is mainly the master bath/shower/tub/potty.

I downloaded this guide from AARP for some ideas:
https://www.aarp.org/content/dam/aar...gles-12320.pdf

jimjamuser 07-11-2021 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1970836)
I know we need to add grab bars, but am curious where/why from some who have already done it.

My current focus is mainly the master bath/shower/tub/potty.

A slip-resistant floor for the shower would be very important. Some furniture or even bathroom sinks have VERY pointed corners on the top flat surface. That can be dangerous in case of a hard fall. For furniture, wicker usually has rounded corners. Rugs in a bathroom are soft to walk on, but can slip causing a bad fall. One of the worst injuries that an older person can suffer is breaking a hip. Then they refuse to walk and then pneumonia KILLS them. So strangely, we would live longer as a statistical group if we always wore a pair of football hip protectors. Lots of ways to answer that proposed question.

GrumpyOldMan 07-11-2021 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1971638)
A slip-resistant floor for the shower would be very important. Some furniture or even bathroom sinks have VERY pointed corners on the top flat surface. That can be dangerous in case of a hard fall. For furniture, wicker usually has rounded corners. Rugs in a bathroom are soft to walk on, but can slip causing a bad fall. One of the worst injuries that an older person can suffer is breaking a hip. Then they refuse to walk and then pneumonia KILLS them. So strangely, we would live longer as a statistical group if we always wore a pair of football hip protectors. Lots of ways to answer that proposed question.

Good point about the shower. Ours was very non-slip for a year, but lately, it seems to feel a little more slippery. I need to talk to the house cleaners about what they are using in it.


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