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Bogie Shooter 12-25-2021 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 2042763)
I'd like to see the planning for how the county will manage the incremental property taxes the county will collect as a result of expansion.

The following model is very conservative considering the current higher rate of construction and increase in average sell price of new homes.

Estimate they're closer to 5,000 homes per year@ $350K+ sell price currently. At that rate, the county will collect over $100M in incremental tax revenue before the roads completed the next 5 years

This is a difficult question for the current commissioners…………this would require future planning.

dewilson58 12-25-2021 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Northwoods (Post 2042757)
I believe The Developer builds the Fire Stations and then turns them over to the district for $0.

Very True..........some posters just post crap and lies.

PugMom 12-25-2021 09:33 AM

complain all you like, it's still way cheaper than the northern state from which you came. everybody happy :)

Bilyclub 12-25-2021 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 2042798)
complain all you like, it's still way cheaper than the northern state from which you came. everybody happy :)

There's nothing wrong with a healthy discussion about things that affect everybody's bottom line. If you include the bond and that groceries and contractors are more expensive it's a dead heat.

dewilson58 12-25-2021 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2042847)
If you include the bond and that groceries and contractors are more expensive it's a dead heat.

Not Even Close.

This will help you.

Cost Of Living Comparison

JMintzer 12-25-2021 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2042854)
Not Even Close.

This will help you.

Cost Of Living Comparison

Other than a few groceries, imported beer and leatheriness shoes, TV is about 25-50% cheaper than where I currently live...

Bogie Shooter 12-25-2021 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2042873)
Other than a few groceries, imported beer and leatheriness shoes, TV is about 25-50% cheaper than where I currently live...

You don’t live in TV?

ScottFenstermaker 12-27-2021 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2040705)
Seems the Sun has started pushing candidates for the Sumter County Board. This Billardello guy has trying to get his name out there, but he appears to be the developer's guy in the story.

The Developer's Daily Sun is certainly continuing its unrelenting attack on Commissioners Estep, Miller and Search, who were elected to increase the Developer's sweetheart impact fee and roll back our 25% property-tax increase. That increase was enacted by the predecessors of Estep, Miller, and Search in order to subsidize the Developer's sweetheart impact fee-- which is about 5% of what he would pay in Collier County.

Bill14564 12-27-2021 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ScottFenstermaker (Post 2043306)
The Developer's Daily Sun is certainly continuing its unrelenting attack on Commissioners Estep, Miller and Search, who were elected to increase the Developer's sweetheart impact fee and roll back our 25% property-tax increase. That increase was enacted by the predecessors of Estep, Miller, and Search in order to subsidize the Developer's sweetheart impact fee-- which is about 5% of what he would pay in Collier County.

Which might explain why the Villages are primarily in Sumter County and not Collier County. Since I prefer being here rather than on the coast this has worked out well for me.

By the way, you neglected to work the words "massive" and "puppet" into your post.

JMintzer 12-27-2021 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2042936)
You don’t live in TV?

Not yet full time. We're still "Snowflakes" (we come and go as often as possible), but I'm still working on my exit strategy so I can become a "Frog"...

I should have posted "currently live, most of the time"... I'm working on selling my practice and then we'll sell the house here (just outside DC, in Maryland) and y'all can enjoy my presence full time! LOL!

ScottFenstermaker 12-27-2021 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2043308)
Which might explain why the Villages are primarily in Sumter County and not Collier County. Since I prefer being here rather than on the coast this has worked out well for me.

By the way, you neglected to work the words "massive" and "puppet" into your post.

If you are okay with subsidizing the Developer's business with your property-tax dollars, I can't argue with you.

By the way, do you really think that the Developer's massive expansion of The Villages, which was facilitated by his puppet Commissioners and is being subsidized by the current residents, is good for the current residents? :icon_wink:

ScottFenstermaker 12-27-2021 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Northwoods (Post 2042757)
I believe The Developer builds the Fire Stations and then turns them over to the district for $0. The only stipulation is that they must remain a fire station.
Goldwingnut has stated this numerous times.

Are you sure about that? Aren't they sold to the district along with the rest of the district infrastructure? Have you found a deed where they are conveyed free of charge?

Altavia 12-27-2021 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottFenstermaker (Post 2043319)
If you are okay with subsidizing the Developer's business with your property-tax dollars, I can't argue with you.

Those fees are passed on to new home buyers.

With the more than 50% increases in home costs the past year, are you OK with new home buyers paying close to double what you are paying in property taxes for the same home? And you want to tax them even more for the privilege to do so?

ScottFenstermaker 12-27-2021 02:50 PM

No, the houses are now priced at the highest level that market conditions will allow. Businesses cannot simply pass all their costs on to buyers, otherwise no business would go bankrupt, especially if the costs are not incurred by all the the business's competitors.

Yes, housing prices would increase to some extent, and I am perfectly fine with that. Then the new residents AND the Developer, who are responsible for the new county infrastructure, would be paying for it, instead of us current residents. Remember, with the new-home buyers no longer paying for the Developer's subsequent county infrastructure through higher property taxes, they would recoup some or all of the higher home price. Better yet, the value of the houses of the current residents would increase correspondingly.

I know this is complicated, but think: If the Developer could simply pass on 100% of higher impact fees and not take a profit hit, do you seriously think he would have paid Hage $350,000.14 and would have fought so hard to keep his Commission puppets in office?

BTW, what makes you think that home prices around here went up 50% in the past year??

dewilson58 12-27-2021 05:37 PM

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Love You Guacamole, Love ya.

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