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Ruger2506 06-03-2025 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2436473)
Middleton is killing the retirement feel in that area. 6-8 passenger golf carts full of kids doing 25-30 mph on the MMP's, kids on scooters and ebikes zooming down the MMP's after dark , without lights, on their way to McDonalds, soccer Mom's driving like Mario Andreti rushing the kids to school - might as well be in an Orlando suburb.

Guess I haven't noticed that. Makes sense Marsh Bend trails would be busy with kids headed to Magnolia.

I do notice the school traffic. But that's more likely non-Middleton people bringing the kids in and out. Just wait until the school kids are on Shallow Creek Golf Course all fall.

Bill14564 06-03-2025 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2436473)
Middleton is killing the retirement feel in that area. 6-8 passenger golf carts full of kids doing 25-30 mph on the MMP's, kids on scooters and ebikes zooming down the MMP's after dark , without lights, on their way to McDonalds, soccer Mom's driving like Mario Andreti rushing the kids to school - might as well be in an Orlando suburb.

Where?

Are the Middleton kids really taking their scooters and bikes five miles up the MMP to the McDonalds at Magnolia? Where are the soccer moms coming from as they are driving like Mario Andretti to the school in Middleton?

Ruger2506 06-03-2025 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2436483)
Where?

Are the Middleton kids really taking their scooters and bikes five miles up the MMP to the McDonalds at Magnolia? Where are the soccer moms coming from as they are driving like Mario Andretti to the school in Middleton?


It's probably more the high school kids. I see them leave everyday. Same as when I was 16 and leaving the school, aggressively and with speed.

Bill14564 06-03-2025 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruger2506 (Post 2436488)
It's probably more the high school kids. I see them leave everyday. Same as when I was 16 and leaving the school, aggressively and with speed.

You live in Middleton, yes? So kids are acting like kids in their own neighborhood??? Have we forgotten what we were like as kids or am I the only one who had an active childhood?

Ruger2506 06-03-2025 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2436489)
You live in Middleton, yes? So kids are acting like kids in their own neighborhood??? Have we forgotten what we were like as kids or am I the only one who had an active childhood?

Yes I live in Middleton. Reading your response it appears you are borderline attempting to call me out on something. If so, you best reread my responses.

I personally get a kick out of watching the kids be kids. And more so I get a kick out of watching seniors who moved to Middleton bitch about kids being kids.

Bill14564 06-03-2025 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruger2506 (Post 2436491)
Yes I live in Middleton. Reading your response it appears you are borderline attempting to call me out on something. If so, you best reread my responses.

I personally get a kick out of watching the kids be kids. And more so I get a kick out of watching seniors who moved to Middleton bitch about kids being kids.

Suggest you read *my* post #42. It’s difficult to understand kids being kids in Middleton killing the retirement feel in an area that is not a retirement community.

asianthree 06-03-2025 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ptmcbriz (Post 2433933)
You can buy a 4 bedroom two story home with 2 bonus office spaces in Middleton for $425,000 at 3000sf. If you want 3000sf in The Villages you have to build a Premier home at way over $1M. Big difference.

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Originally Posted by eyc234 (Post 2436429)
And what 2 retired people need that?

On our fourth house in TV, 4 bed 3bath, 3,000 sf 800sf garage. Yes a premier is 1M, in TV, depending on the view. Could we live in Middleton, sure, we rarely play executives, found most clubs, a take it or leave it. Most of the time I find children easier to deal with than the elderly who complain about issues just to complain.

I will say Magnolia is pretty quiet after 7pm. The only e-bike that have been a problem are ridden by those who definitely aren’t close to school age. It’s hard to determine if kids in 6-8 person golf cart, are from Middleton, or someone visiting Grandparents. Maybe we could have the Middleton kids have a neon green stamp on their forehead. Visitors a purple stamp, to determine who is driving without lights:popcorn::popcorn:. (Still need a Sheldon sign)

Byte1 06-04-2025 10:12 AM

My neighbor's home in the Northern part of the Villages was on the market for over seven months and just sold after reducing the price four times, and then still got low balled by the only buyer interested. He sold it for about $70-80K less than he could have gotten for it a year ago. Just saying. The Villages listings is higher than it has been in over 30 years, I was told. It's a buyers market and I have been told that the home values may never go back up to the point they were peaked at a year ago.
The insurance prices are higher than just about any state. They are starting to remove gate guards from some villages, which will remove all ideas that this is a gated community. It is no longer a real seniors' community when just about every village has at least one air b&b allowing college kids and families with children to rent for a weekend or more. The utilities are a scam. An empty home might have the highest utility bill ever had while occupied, and the answer from the utility company is that "you must have a leak on your end" even though the next month it's back to normal.
If you are looking to purchase a new home, make sure you add $30k-50K to the price for the bond.
On the other hand, if you like golf you can play every day.....if you can get a T time. And there are plenty of restaurants in the area, IF/IF you don't mind eating at 3pm unless you are willing to stand in lines that go out to the parking lot. Grocery shopping? Good luck. They are always packed.
But, there is so much to do.....
Love it here.....

ElDiabloJoe 06-04-2025 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2436613)
My neighbor's home in the Northern part of the Villages was on the market for over seven months and just sold after reducing the price four times, and then still got low balled by the only buyer interested. He sold it for about $70-80K less than he could have gotten for it a year ago. Just saying. The Villages listings is higher than it has been in over 30 years, I was told. It's a buyers market and I have been told that the home values may never go back up to the point they were peaked at a year ago.
The insurance prices are higher than just about any state. They are starting to remove gate guards from some villages, which will remove all ideas that this is a gated community. It is no longer a real seniors' community when just about every village has at least one air b&b allowing college kids and families with children to rent for a weekend or more. The utilities are a scam. An empty home might have the highest utility bill ever had while occupied, and the answer from the utility company is that "you must have a leak on your end" even though the next month it's back to normal.
If you are looking to purchase a new home, make sure you add $30k-50K to the price for the bond.
On the other hand, if you like golf you can play every day.....if you can get a T time. And there are plenty of restaurants in the area, IF/IF you don't mind eating at 3pm unless you are willing to stand in lines that go out to the parking lot. Grocery shopping? Good luck. They are always packed.
But, there is so much to do.....
Love it here....
.

Maybe I'm missing your Sheldon sign, but it sure doesn't sound like it.

JMintzer 06-04-2025 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruger2506 (Post 2436479)
Guess I haven't noticed that. Makes sense Marsh Bend trails would be busy with kids headed to Magnolia.

I do notice the school traffic. But that's more likely non-Middleton people bringing the kids in and out. Just wait until the school kids are on Shallow Creek Golf Course all fall.

It's just the Golf Team, not all of the Middleton school kids...

Topspinmo 06-04-2025 02:10 PM

I think I found the answer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-i7cawhw8s

JMintzer 06-04-2025 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2436613)
My neighbor's home in the Northern part of the Villages was on the market for over seven months and just sold after reducing the price four times, and then still got low balled by the only buyer interested. He sold it for about $70-80K less than he could have gotten for it a year ago. Just saying. The Villages listings is higher than it has been in over 30 years, I was told. It's a buyers market and I have been told that the home values may never go back up to the point they were peaked at a year ago.
The insurance prices are higher than just about any state. They are starting to remove gate guards from some villages, which will remove all ideas that this is a gated community. It is no longer a real seniors' community when just about every village has at least one air b&b allowing college kids and families with children to rent for a weekend or more. The utilities are a scam. An empty home might have the highest utility bill ever had while occupied, and the answer from the utility company is that "you must have a leak on your end" even though the next month it's back to normal.
If you are looking to purchase a new home, make sure you add $30k-50K to the price for the bond.
On the other hand, if you like golf you can play every day.....if you can get a T time. And there are plenty of restaurants in the area, IF/IF you don't mind eating at 3pm unless you are willing to stand in lines that go out to the parking lot. Grocery shopping? Good luck. They are always packed.
But, there is so much to do.....
Love it here.....

Your neighbor's house took so long to sell for one simple reason... They were asking too much.

Many still think they will get the the crazy prices people were paying during the "Covid Boom", when there were bidding wars on many homes, or homes sold within a few days.

Many people overpaid and expect to make a killing when they sell their home.

Unfortunately for them, "timing is everything" and they missed the boat on the boom. Prices are settling back to normal and appreciation is going back to traditional levels. The days of "doubling your money in 1-2 years" are over...

Luckily, we bought about 6 weeks before the craze started and got a killer interest rate on our (modest) mortgage.

If and when we decide to sell our home (and buy another one), we'll make a fair profit, but nowhere near what we would have gotten if we sold 18 months ago. But then again, we would have had to pay the super high prices on whatever else we wanted to buy... Now, it's much more rational as a seller and as a buyer.

asianthree 06-04-2025 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2436473)
Middleton is killing the retirement feel in that area. 6-8 passenger golf carts full of kids doing 25-30 mph on the MMP's, kids on scooters and ebikes zooming down the MMP's after dark , without lights, on their way to McDonalds, soccer Mom's driving like Mario Andreti rushing the kids to school - might as well be in an Orlando suburb.

Summer is in full swing. Today while leaving Magnolia KB store two 6 person golf carts with the kids around 16 or younger (no adult) you speak of leaving McD’s. I expected as you posted both carts to head south towards Middleton.

Instead they headed to WaterLily Bridge, crossing over one cart heading to St John’s, the other into Richmond. Maybe they got lost trying to find their way home to Middleton. Given it was pouring rain, I couldn’t tell if their lights were on, because they were gaining speed after round about


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