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Villageswimmer 09-17-2016 10:14 AM

How about
..wonderful location near Lake Sumter Landing
..gently used for LifeStyle visits
..full new home warranty

All good stuff and TRUTHFUL.

graciegirl 09-17-2016 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Villageswimmer (Post 1290619)
How about
..wonderful location near Lake Sumter Landing
..gently used for LifeStyle visits
..full new home warranty

All good stuff and TRUTHFUL.


I agree. If I remember, I will try to get to one of the open houses. How about a question phrased like this;

"Tell me about this house" and see if the agent 'fesses up without prodding.

Jima64 09-17-2016 11:29 AM

Sorry but it is deceptive marketing if you are selling a previously sold or lived in home as new.

RickeyD 09-17-2016 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1290639)
I agree. If I remember, I will try to get to one of the open houses. How about a question phrased like this;

"Tell me about this house" and see if the agent 'fesses up without prodding.



Grace, undercover... [emoji848]

bbbbbb 09-17-2016 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1272552)
For the developer to advertise the Creekside Villas as new is nothing less than fraud unless a fully disclosed disclaimer is shown upfront as soon as you open the front door. I have not nor will I visit these open houses so I don't know the details but what I do know is the roof, HVAC, plumbing, electric are all at least 7 years old. NOT new by anyone's stretch of imagination UNLESS you are the developer who can write whatever they want in the Daily Sun.
As always, caveat emptor.

The NEW Villas are on Peninsula and Old Dominion and they have a new landscaping with Palms to make them look new to any one driving by on a Camel. It is Creekside Landing off of Old Camp.

:pepper2: :pepper2:

bbbbbb 09-17-2016 12:10 PM

New villas
 
[QUOTE=zonerboy;1273651]I really don't care how Florida law chooses to define requirements for disclosure in real estate transactions. Florida law, for me at least, is not the definitive arbiter of what is honest and ethical behavior. And marketing an 8 year old home occupied by multiple different occupants over those years as a "new home" is simply NOT honest. If the many heirs of Mr Morse wish to risk obtaining a reputation of dishonest marketing, then I guess that is their decision.
Certainly the homes will sell and at whatever price the market will bear, but this fact in itself does not make the sales practices ethical. I have nothing against free enterprise and the making of money, but sometimes greed is just greed.

They are in the Saturday (16th) paper and listed as NEW, on Peninsula and Old Dominion in the Creekside Landing Villas. So that clarifies it all, just off of OLD CAMP road.

:spoken:

ColdNoMore 09-17-2016 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jima64 (Post 1290657)
Sorry but it is deceptive marketing if you are selling a previously sold or lived in home as new.

Exactly! :thumbup:

And criticizing an entity for doing such, is certainly not engendered by..."being jealous." :ohdear:

I predict that the advertising will soon say something along the lines of... "new on the market" and/or "never previously sold."

And if questioned, 'they' will throw some poor ad-writer under the bus...and say he/she made the mistake.

bbbbbb 09-17-2016 12:26 PM

New Homes, Villas???
 
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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1290680)
Exactly! :thumbup:

And criticizing an entity for doing such, is certainly not engendered by..."being jealous." :ohdear:

Well interesting, used homes listed as new! It has been written before, in North Long Beach, Ca. in about the (1955) era, a guy named Cal Worthington had an agency and was selling used cars refurbished, repainted as new, just turned back the odometer. New tires, new paint, new seat covers and walla, a brand new car! Yes, I knew a person who bought one of them as new, but not me. I think he went to jail, but definitely lost his new car agency. :eclipsee_gold_cup:

ColdNoMore 09-17-2016 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bbbbbb (Post 1290683)
Well interesting, used homes listed as new! It has been written before, in North Long Beach, Ca. in about the (1955) era, a guy named Cal Worthington had an agency and was selling used cars refurbished, repainted as new, just turned back the odometer. New tires, new paint, new seat covers and walla, a brand new car! Yes, I knew a person who bought one of them as new, but not me. I think he went to jail, but definitely lost his new car agency. :eclipsee_gold_cup:

Actually, Cal Worthington never went to jail and he had numerous new auto dealerships on the west coast and Alaska. :shrug:


Cal Worthington - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

CWGUY 09-17-2016 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rtime (Post 1290584)
Maybe its time to contact the Sumter County DA and see what his opinion may be.

:what: Sumter Co. does not have a D.A.

CWGUY 09-17-2016 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bbbbbb (Post 1272704)
Hi, we live in Creekside, we walk and bike ride around. Yes, they take previously owned, previously Lifestyle,
8 or so years old. They may remove all the old flooring, the older cabinets, anything that shows the age, they paint the total interior and the driveway, and yes, they do advertise them as NEW.
bbbbbb
:wave:

Do you own a home in Creekside? :)

[QUOTE=bbbbbb;1290679]
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Originally Posted by zonerboy (Post 1273651)
I really don't care how Florida law chooses to define requirements for disclosure in real estate transactions. Florida law, for me at least, is not the definitive arbiter of what is honest and ethical behavior. And marketing an 8 year old home occupied by multiple different occupants over those years as a "new home" is simply NOT honest. If the many heirs of Mr Morse wish to risk obtaining a reputation of dishonest marketing, then I guess that is their decision.
Certainly the homes will sell and at whatever price the market will bear, but this fact in itself does not make the sales practices ethical. I have nothing against free enterprise and the making of money, but sometimes greed is just greed.

They are in the Saturday (16th) paper and listed as NEW, on Peninsula and Old Dominion in the Creekside Landing Villas. So that clarifies it all, just off of OLD CAMP road.

:spoken:

If you do how were the homes described to you? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Sable99 (Post 1272592)
The realtors hosting the three open houses that I attended that day told me these homes had been used in the past for the Lifestyle visits. Just as I told them I already owned a home in TV and was just looking. I've been looking at courtyard villas since I got a puppy but most of the garages are a tight fit with my Ford Flex and a cart! But I still love to go to open houses!

Sounds like 3 out of 3 salespeople told this person up front that they were from the Lifestyle Program. :shrug:

Villageswimmer 09-17-2016 01:18 PM

Glad sales reps are upfront about the status. I thought they would be. The misleading advertising puts them in an uncomfortable position.

graciegirl 09-17-2016 02:32 PM

I think that in many cases some people are always defending the developer....like me.

And some people are always putting them down, and criticizing them.

Many people have already bought, or will buy, or live down the road and work for MLS and jump on any chance to unshine any new home deal because they can't sell new homes.

Many people have reasonable appreciation for the good ideas that built this place.

They aren't nuts about the Morses like I am.

Everybody has their own folks they admire. I also like Jack Nicklaus.

But this is clearly misleading advertising. I still think Jack Nicklaus is perfect.

RickeyD 09-17-2016 03:50 PM

Obfuscation does not distract away from the facts, those amongst us who can see through the surly white fog of deception.


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