Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1861162)

Look at the new case numbers for the long standing mandatory mask wearing states. They are, in most cases, spiking at a rate equal to or greater than states without mandatory requirements.

Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1861152)

"An advisor to President-elect Joe Biden has said that closing businesses for four to six weeks could help keep reduce the number of infections and get the economy on track until a vaccine is approved and distributed."
That is a scary, misguided statement. Closing businesses for 4-6 weeks will get the economy on track?!?!?

Originally Posted by Niferlou06 (Post 1861251)

AGREE, agree, and agree more with you. Just because time has passed does not mean we should lower our defences or attention. Now more than ever EVERYONE MUST WEAR MASKS, remain away from ALL crowds, to include all Villages activities and clubs. Sorry, but if we truly want this to go away we need to be vigilant now, more than ever.

Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus (Post 1861272)

That doesn’t necessarily mean it’s Biden’s intent to do so. Can you post the source please, for full context?

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1861247)

Yes, and the KKK wore masks before anyone ever heard of the word antifa (which is NOT an organized group, for the umpteenth time, sheesh).

That has NOTHING to do with the need to wear masks during a pandemic. Nothing, zilch, nada, zip.

Try to stay on topic.

Yes, people have a need, as social creatures of the human race, to be social creatures and interact with each other. Yes, it is considered "cruel and inhuman punishment" to force anyone into isolation or intimidate them through YOUR actions such that they feel unsafe in your presence.

Yes, people who REFUSE (not merely forget, and not have some life-threatening disease that might exist but I've never actually hard of a real actual bonafide example of) to wear a mask, ARE uncaring dolts. Yes, they are. There is no "fine people on both sides." There are two sides here. The people who - regardless of how they feel about masks - are willing to wear them as a courtesy and consideration to their fellow human being. And there are people who don't care, and won't wear them, period.

People can ABSOLUTELY congregate. They can hang out at each others' houses, they can go to school, they can dance in the squares, they can vote in elections in person, they can shop in the supermarket, they can go to the movies.

They can ALSO be required to wear masks while they're doing it. The thing is - no one should need someone else to "require" it. But sadly - some people are SO myopic, SO selfish, SO aggressively nasty, that they will REFUSE to comply and allow mask-wearing to become a social nicety, and the rest of society is allowing them to change the entire tone of society into one of anger and "my rights are more important than your health." We are no longer a community. There is no spin on this. A community works together. We work against each other. Therefore, we are not a community.

We're just a bunch of neighborhoods where people all live. That's all we are now.

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1861267)

Well, they must be doing SOMETHING wrong.

Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1861275)

CNBC
Shutting down businesses and paying people for lost wages for four to six weeks could help keep the coronavirus pandemic in check and get the economy on track until a vaccine is approved and distributed, said Dr. Michael Osterholm, a coronavirus advisor to President-elect Joe Biden.

Originally Posted by denniskathyb (Post 1861255)

Most of my golfing buddies believe that the numbers are only going up because of increased testing. More testing more cases uncovered. (ie: Trump's position).
I disagree.

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1860926)

It has been reported that people who were asymptomatic or very mild symptoms are having side effects of the virus. What those effects are, I do not know but it does not bode well that even people who were barely ill with Covid are having adverse effects after they recover.

Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus (Post 1861279)

Thanks Swoop. That’s “advice” TO Biden, which he may or may not follow, right?

Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus (Post 1861279)

Thanks Swoop. That’s “advice” TO Biden, which he may or may not follow, right?

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1860933)

Not sarcasm, but it is complete stupidity.............the idea of Herd Immunity

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1860939)

I AM very worried about pollution....both gas pollution and noise pollution from cars AND lawnmowers. Besides bad air to breathe, pollution CAUSES Global Warming (oh, oh, I just said that bad, ugly word - around here). The fact that you are NOT is a condemnation of the US education system that is producing SCIENCE-DENIERS (oh, another BAD word - I am going to wash my mouth out with soap). Please excuse me!

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1861267)

Well, they must be doing SOMETHING wrong.

Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus (Post 1861288)

From boropark24.com:

“Just last month, at a town hall in Philadelphia, Biden said, "I don't think there's a need to lock down...I laid out a plan [on] how you can open businesses. You can open businesses and schools if in fact you provide them the guidance they need as well as the money to be able to do it.”

Here’s Osterholm’s latest take of HIS opinion of a shutdown which weakens the case further that Biden would follow it.

Biden adviser walks back earlier proposal calling for lockdown - ABC News