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graciegirl 07-22-2016 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 1253979)
I'm thinking , are you going to stay in this house until you die ? do you want to pay 6% or can you make more than 6% on your money? do you want a payment??


That was our guiding philosophy. We didn't pay the bond on the first house here and we haven't paid the bond on this house, although both homes were paid for. We never know if another home here may catch our fancy. It is cheaper and easier to move here in TV and houses sell quick if they are nicely decorated and priced fairly. Not adding the bond in, catches the eye of potential buyers as a lower price. Just our view.

biker1 07-22-2016 12:14 PM

Ideally, the real estate sales people will be able to articulate the financial benefits of a paid off bond. In my case, it is about $1600/year (non tax deductible) with an effective interest rate of about 5.5%. I paid it off. I look upon it as part of my diversified portfolio.

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Originally Posted by Challenger (Post 1257774)
Show me the data that supports this premise. The is never any guarantee that the next sale will be comparable to anything.


Villageswimmer 07-22-2016 12:20 PM

We must have one of the highest interest rates--6.125 % not counting the administrative fee, and you're correct not dedictible.

VApeople 07-22-2016 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1257961)
In my case, it is about $1600/year (non tax deductible) with an effective interest rate of about 5.5%. I paid it off. I look upon it as part of my diversified portfolio.

How is a debt part of any portfolio?

If a debt is part of a portfolio, then I guess we can all go borrow a bunch of money and claim we are rich.

Chatbrat 07-22-2016 12:42 PM

If the rule of 72 holds true, the bond holder will have doubled his bond back in 12 years

justjim 07-22-2016 02:30 PM

Most agree, if your house in TV is "final", in good health, and expect to live average life expectancy, pay off of the bond certainly makes sense. On the other hand, to each his own.

It makes a lot of "economic sense" not to own two houses. One here and another up north. But we choose to do so. To each his own.

biker1 07-22-2016 02:37 PM

Huh? Where did that come from? I never said that, or implied it. Go back and reread. I paid off the bond.

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1257977)
How is a debt part of any portfolio?

If a debt is part of a portfolio, then I guess we can all go borrow a bunch of money and claim we are rich.


VApeople 07-22-2016 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1258051)
Huh? Where did that come from? I never said that, or implied it. Go back and reread. I paid off the bond.

OK, I misunderstood your post. I didn't realize you had paid off your bond. I didn't know what 'it' referred to when you said this:

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1257961)
I paid it off.

I guess you are considering a paid-off bond to be part of your portfolio because you reasonably assume that a paid-off bond will help you sell you house for more money. That makes sense to me, but others seem to disagree.

We are closing on a new house in two months and we are trying to decide if we should pay off the bond or not.

Duke-SRT 07-22-2016 06:26 PM

You say if I pay between the July cut-off date and Sept.16th ther will be one more assesment on my tax bill. Will I have to pay this assesment even though the bond is paid off?

Bogie Shooter 07-23-2016 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Duke-SRT (Post 1258212)
You say if I pay between the July cut-off date and Sept.16th ther will be one more assesment on my tax bill. Will I have to pay this assesment even though the bond is paid off?

See post #4.

Jimmydoodlebug 07-23-2016 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1257549)
What you say is absolutely correct, however, you are also "leasing" your property from the Government. You pay your lease in the form of taxes each year. So in reality you never really own your home free and clear so to speak.

Completely correct. You never really own your house, you just rent it from the government. Stop paying your taxes and out you go.


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