Correct me if I am wrong on this. The newer parts were not involved in the lawsuit that gave certain areas a say in what happened to them.

Orange Blossom restaurant closed, not because the developer closed it but because the restauranteur failed to renew the lease. I am sure that it is available to rent. Church on the square is being enlarged to make it a bigger venue for musical entertainment. None of this was done to people...it is evolving. Church on the Square was always a venue for music performance, it will be bigger now. We are a bigger city now.

AND you are so right. Things like golf courses could be sold. But it seems like they are thriving businesses.

I hope the developer does not ever pull out and the residents run this place. What a mess it would be.

Gracie, are you referring to the class action lawsuit regarding the mold at Paradise Recreation Center and the amenities monies? That involved The Villages of Lake-Sumter Inc., the Village Center Community Development District and developer H. Gary Morse.

What are you talking about when you say a lawsuit that gave certain areas a say in what happens to them? That is a new on to me. Do say? Say more, please.

The Church on the Square was built as a church. That is why it was named 'Church on the Square', not 'entertainment venue on the square'. When it was built, there was only one other church in TV...the All Faiths Chapel in Paradise. Some residents have called Church on the Square their house of worship for over 15 years, now no one knows if it will ever be a church again.

Residents have seen the same action played out by the developer over and over...Silver Oak restaurant, closed for repairs; Chula Vista restaurant, closed for repairs; Santiago restaurant, closed for repairs; Orange Blossom County Club, closed for repairs. It remains to be seen if OBCC and the tiki bar will ever open again. The next restaurant in their sights is Tierra Del Sol.

Explain to me how closing restaurants benefit the owners of the buildings? It sounds like you mean it was done as a nasty act. It appears to me that the people who were renting didn't renew the lease. How do you see it, Janmcn?

From DAY one the Church on the Square was a musical venue. A church congregation used it for a year or so but since then it has only had one non denominational service per week with changing speakers and no other church activities. It was part of the "Look" of a Spanish town created by the developers with the help of their Disney advisors. We talked about this before on this forum and someone posted a link to a Presbyterian or Episcopal Church using the facility for a time at the beginning.

I don't know BK. I was under the impression that was when it was set up for that part of The Villages to vote for representatives that now have some part in the decision making. Remember all of that hoopla about signs north of 466 and the elected folks were going to vote yes or no about having for sale signs or political signs? We don't vote on anything in our part of town. So I don't know.

I have a question for anyone, and if it has been already asked and answered I am sorry, and if it is dumb, I apologize.

How long must the developers family stay here and keep it all going...is there some sort of time line that folks expected when they moved here...are they stuck here until all members of the family dies...or can they sell what they own and move on, without having the ruination of life itself blamed on them ?

If I'm not mistaken, all those places are private businesses, so we have no right to them. If they make money they stay, otherwise they go or get changed into something else.

When the businesses fail or close for whatever reason, the developer then sells the property to the CDD for an exorborant amount. What did the residents just pay for the Santiago building? Somewhere around $300,000 for a building that should be condemned.

Perhaps someone can explain to my 90 year old neighbors that the church they have been worshiping in for the past decade is not really a church at all. Some experts on the subject may never have attended a service there.

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When the Villages outgrow it's population??? To me that would mean that TV has more homes than residents. TV would be too big for the number of people living here.

Perhaps the OP meant ...when the population outgrows TV. But then that would mean that more people lived here than there were homes. Don't think that will happen.

All in all it is not clear what is meant, as many have suggested.

Perhaps the OP meant that with over 100,000 residents we will lose that Village "feel"?

Perhaps the OP is just worried because the future is never certain anywhere and wants someone to worry with him/her. Or maybe the OP wants us to be reassuring that all will be fine.

Beats me what this means.

Of course they are free to take their billions of dollars and move on whenever or wherever they like.

And no people don't resent them for having made billions of dollars. If the American people hated rich people, Bill Gates would be the most hated man in America, followed by Warren Buffet, followed closely by the late Steve Jobs. That is not the case at all.

We should all say Godspeed to the Morses.

Gracie, that is the structure of Florida's special districts or community development districts. They are set up by state law with a provision that the "power" or voting rights in ALL districts, after a period of six years, start being turned over to the residents. It is based on a formula, very simply, of land ownership within the district.

It just happens that the original side was taken into the town of Lady Lake. People living in this area of TV are still part of TV and have all the same rights that every other resident of TV has-and then some. The only governing body associated with us who are living in the original portion of TV is the Amenities Authority Committee. We have elected officials representing us, that being the town of Lady Lake. You, and every other resident of TV has a representative on the AAC. I go to their meetings periodically. It is very interesting. I've petitioned them and gotten positive results to improvements at one of our pools. They don't bite and all seem to be wonderful, concerned people who listen and talk to you.

No biting sarcasm here !!!

Not sure why, and does not have to be the poster to whom I am responding to, have such undying resentment of this family. It is sometimes as if such bad ill will is wished upon them and I never ever understand why. I surely know what I would do if I hated the developers, what they have done, are doing and fear they are doing. But that is just me.

Been here since 2000...they never lied to me. I understood the government (actually made sure I took the Pete Wahl classes) where open and honest questions were asked and answered straight forward (to small classes I must add...which really surprised me). Anyway, I understood what was happening...what could happen and nobody misled me in anyway about anything. Thus, even if things were not good, I could not complain !

To be quite honest when I bought here I never thought about what if the Morse family pulls out - shame on me. But everything looked so wonderful and felt so good I was sure it would go on forever - shame on me. But after being here a year I do have concerns as I watch the Morse family pull out of control of certain businesses and turning over HR to Compass, and now the recent Southern Lifestyle and Showcase furniture stores being taken over by an outside company. I have witnessed the closing of restaurants north of 466 and her rumblings about buildings that should be condemned and see with my own eyes the pristine care is not as evident in the area between 466 and 466A and sure it makes me wonder. Do I lose sleep at night - no - but I also don't have my head in the sand any more believing this fantasy will go on forever or maybe not even my lifetime.

Only District's 1-4 have representation on the ACC.
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Gary Moyer (VCCDD)


Carl Bell (District 1)


Ann Forrester (District 2)


John Wilcox (District 3) Chair


Rich Lambrecht (District 4)


Josephine “Jo” Weber (Lady Lake/Lake County) Vice Chair


http://www.districtgov.org/projects/...on%20Sheet.pdf
http://www.poa4us.org/bulletins_file...tin200810.html

I stand corrected. I assumed Gary Moyer represented the other districts. Thank you. So, can you explain this to me, please, Bogie. Does the SLCDD south of 466 have public meetings when they make decisions on amenities in that area?
I realize they don't have elected representatives, but are there meetings and are they governed by Sunshine laws?

There is no similiar committee.
The SLCDD does meet........here is there latest agenda http://www.districtgov.org/PDFView/P...20130912sl0201
Some districts now have elected rep's.
The meetings are open.
You can sign up for the agenda's of all district meetings to be sent to you via email at districtgov.org.
I believe all meetings are covered by the Florida Sunshine laws.

Meetings are open...attendance encouraged. Folks should attend their district meetings...most meeting notices are posted at your mail station.

Please go to your district meetings. Not aimed at anyone in particular, but the negativity here just sucks the life out of you.

To those reading and wondering...come on down. Great place to live. Concerned ? Ask questions of those who know.....that is important. There are folks on here that, for whatever reason do not like the developer, and that is their right..they watch his money, his politics, everything he does, most of which has nothing to do with the Villages.

Please..go to meetings if you live here. Give up a party so you can be informed about your district and post here without rumors.

Sorry for the vent, am not a booster for anyone, but when folks just complain about this guy, his family, etc without even knowing what they are talking about..just bothers me. His income, politics,etc are flat out none of our business.

How do you know so much? Thank you. I would say you are like a walking encyclopedia, but that is my dad. I'd say you are a walking Google search engine.

The amenities south of 466, except Pimlico, are still owned by the developer, not SLCDD. It is expected that, once the IRS dispute is settled, these will be sold to the central district. I hope that there will either be a second AAC or an expansion of the current AAC. It will be interesting to see if south of 466 gets funds similar to those provided by the lawsuit for north of 466.

Why would they get funds similar to those provided by the lawsuit? I'm missing something.