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tvbound 01-01-2021 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by claricecolin (Post 1880772)
It is more than that. POC are more likely to live in multi generational households, work in more frontline positions. Meaning jobs where you cannot work from home leading to more exposure even if you are doing everything else correctly.

None of those common sense and truthful explanations, will mean anything to those who are predisposed to prejudice. I applaud you for trying though.

John41 01-01-2021 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1880701)
I do not believe there was a plan, except to dump it all in the hands of individual states, let them make rules and administer it all logistically.

That does not sound like a "plan" to me, but again....a recipe to insure that backbiting, racial unrest, etc., exceeds the clamor for a plan to administer the largest vaccine program as of yet.

Add to that plan that we knew months ago what was going to happen and when....yet....the money to help was just signed a few days ago.

The states insisted on being in charge and Gov Cumo had a hissy fit when it was suggested the Feds might do the planning.

billethkid 01-02-2021 08:12 AM

Fear not.

All will be well.....soon.

Bjeanj 01-02-2021 08:22 AM

My sister sent me this article. I guess DeSantis is getting wide attention for his handling of the vaccine distribution. I guess you’ll have to do a search for “the villages” on the site due to the headline.

https://www.thedailybeast.com

Aloha1 01-02-2021 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1880358)
And tomorrow yours will be too.

Today is 1/2 and my post is still accurate.

Bonnevie 01-02-2021 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1880851)
The states insisted on being in charge and Gov Cumo had a hissy fit when it was suggested the Feds might do the planning.

could you provide your source for this? I was unable to find it anywhere. Some of the states, such as NY, were going to review the safety data independently of the FDA. Given that the FDA gave authorization for unproven medications such as hydroxychloroquine, that was being prudent.

biker1 01-02-2021 10:14 AM

In reality, the FDA revoked the EUA for hydroxychloroquine back in the summer when a clinical trial was unavailable. It is completely understandable why it was initially being used "off label". There were a couple of small studies that showed some success and the drug has been in use for a considerable amount of time as a treatment for malaria. Cuomo saying that NY had to review the data on the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine was absurd, to say the least. Political nonsense.

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Originally Posted by Bonnevie (Post 1881073)
could you provide your source for this? I was unable to find it anywhere. Some of the states, such as NY, were going to review the safety data independently of the FDA. Given that the FDA gave authorization for unproven medications such as hydroxychloroquine, that was being prudent.


Bucco 01-02-2021 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1880851)
The states insisted on being in charge and Gov Cumo had a hissy fit when it was suggested the Feds might do the planning.

Actually, what you are posting is not true.

Gov Cuomo was reluctant to trust the vaccine itself based on the track record, but the distribution which is the subject of this thread was never anything but given to the states.

In fact, most time the state and local government do step up and handle, but this is, or could be, the largest vaccine attempt ever. They did not, nor are they getting any blue print to follow from federal, along with no money until about a week ago.

Asking quite a bit of local and state governments that are already pushed to the brink, simply trying to save live of those already infected.

In order to fulfill what everyone has a goal, we need something of push with the process of delivering the vaccine and administering it.

Right now, there is no place where the "buck" stops, so we appear to be floating

Bogie Shooter 01-02-2021 11:14 AM

When reading these posts, why do I feel I have heard all this before? Some folks just continue to sing from their own hymn book.......over and over again..

Bucco 01-02-2021 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1881155)
When reading these posts, why do I feel I have heard all this before? Some folks just continue to sing from their own hymn book.......over and over again..

TRUE, and i feel reluctant to even post, but some just continue to spread lies and untruths, based on what I do not know nor do I understand why.

I find myself only posting to correct blatant lies being told because that is not fair to the Talk of The Villages forum, its readers and posters.

John41 01-02-2021 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonnevie (Post 1881073)
could you provide your source for this? I was unable to find it anywhere. Some of the states, such as NY, were going to review the safety data independently of the FDA. Given that the FDA gave authorization for unproven medications such as hydroxychloroquine, that was being prudent.

NY is where covid 19 infected patients were sent to nursing homes and hundreds of nursing home residents died. There was a CNN reporter who had an emotional story on how she held Gov Cumo responsible for a relatives death. So you think the NY health deoartment is competent to evaluate anything.

Bucco 01-02-2021 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1881178)
NY is where covid 19 infected patients were sent to nursing homes and hundreds of nursing home residents died. There was a CNN reporter who had an emotional story on how she held Gov Cumo responsible for a relatives death. So you think the NY health deoartment is competent to evaluate anything.

The thread is about the distribution and administering of the vaccine...

.....States did not ask to be "in charge". It is a role that is normally theirs, for sure, but to say "The states insisted on being in charge" is just not true at all.

.....Federal government decided to make it the responsibility of the states instead of simply taking charge.

Yorkshire 01-02-2021 11:55 AM

I think the original development was done by a German company Biontech

Advogado 01-02-2021 01:05 PM

A partial answer to the question, "Where is our vaccine?" is: At least some of it is in the arms of the Developer's cronies.

Allowing those cronies to cut in line ahead of health-care workers and nursing-home patients was reprehensible, and it may result in the death of some of the high-risk individuals whose doses were, in effect, stolen.

John41 01-02-2021 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1881191)
The thread is about the distribution and administering of the vaccine...

.....States did not ask to be "in charge". It is a role that is normally theirs, for sure, but to say "The states insisted on being in charge" is just not true at all.

.....Federal government decided to make it the responsibility of the states instead of simply taking charge.

Here is the federal governments plan to help the states distribute the vaccine which many in the media said was impossible to develop in a year. So it is a falsehood to say the federal government dumped it on the states.
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tember 18, 2020 -- The federal government has released information about how it plans to distribute a COVID-19 vaccine once it’s approved by the FDA.

During a Wednesday news briefing, federal officials said they hope to make the vaccine free of charge and available within 24 hours of approval. Health care workers and other essential workers will probably be the first to get the vaccine, which will initially be released in small quantities.

But they admitted many questions remain about the vaccine -- such as which ones will be approved.

"We're dealing in a world of great uncertainty," Paul Mango, deputy chief of staff for policy at the Department of Health Human Services, said, according to CNN. "We don't know the timing of when we'll have a vaccine. We don't know the quantities. We don't know the efficacy of those vaccines."

The administration has published two documents about vaccine distribution.

Health and Human Services posted an 11-page distribution strategy titled "From the Factory to the Frontlines: The Operation Warp Speed Strategy for Distributing a COVID-19 Vaccine."

The CDC posted the 57-page "COVID-19 Vaccination Program Interim Playbook for Jurisdiction Operations."


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