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Mleeja 07-24-2017 04:57 PM

Well, when the crosses go, I am going after the Penn State flags! :-)

dbussone 07-24-2017 05:09 PM

White cross on lawn in letters to the editor
 
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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1427766)
Well, when the crosses go, I am going after the Penn State flags! :-)



Try it! My son-in-law went there. (It would not be a good idea to mess with him.)

Personally, I like to fly the 13 star flag attributed to Betsy Ross.

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coffeebean 07-24-2017 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bluiiis (Post 1427680)
I'm amazed that people have nothing better to do than worry about small crosses.

I am worried....I do not appreciate those little crosses and I'm afraid there's going to be more of that crap to come. I used to have to look at religious statues gracing people's front lawns in my old neighborhood in New Jersey. I didn't like it there and I will certainly not like to see those statues here.

I feel folks who are religious (I certainly am NOT as you can probably tell) are ramming their religious beliefs down my throat. STOP IT for crying out loud. I'm tired of having to look the other way so I don't see those damn crosses!!!

Rant over. Thank you for letting me vent.

graciegirl 07-24-2017 05:41 PM

Getting sadder and madder.

Remember I agree with deed restrictions. I would never tell someone their religion made me mad unless it was one that subjugated woman and felt that people who didn't belong should be dead.

Island57 07-24-2017 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1427774)
I am worried....I do not appreciate those little crosses and I'm afraid there's going to be more of that crap to come. I used to have to look at religious statues gracing people's front lawns in my old neighborhood in New Jersey. I didn't like it there and I will certainly not like to see those statues here.

I feel folks who are religious (I certainly am NOT as you can probably tell) are ramming their religious beliefs down my throat. STOP IT for crying out loud. I'm tired of having to look the other way so I don't see those damn crosses!!!

Rant over. Thank you for letting me vent.

So nice to hear a rational voice!! The first time I saw one of those little crosses, I thought it was a marker for a buried pet. What ever happened to just stringing one around your neck and calling it a day!

JanBrown 07-24-2017 06:19 PM

First Amendment
 
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Originally Posted by The Mountaineer (Post 1425957)
I tried to sign on to respond there but couldn't get through.

My thoughts are that the same rule should apply to everyone in that particular Village.

Also, the government cannot promote one religion over another. Or even lack of religion.

If a white cross is permitted, then what about a sculpture of a Quran? A statue of Buddha? A sculpture of Ganesha? The star of David? Or a black cross on a white background inside a red circle with a diagonal red slash, the atheist symbol?[/COLOR]

The First Amendment to the Constitution says we have the freedom OF religion, not FROM religion. This expressly means we Americans can, uh, express our religion - like a little white cross.

It is easy to use scare tactics of suggesting we'll have a bunch of Nazi, Muslim, atheist symbols across The Villages, but honestly...seriously... do you really think so? The use of this scare tactic is shameful coming from an American who doesn't understand he is shutting down free speech here in The Villages.

Island57 07-24-2017 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1427597)
An excellent and intelligent response. :BigApplause:


I think the underlying issue comes from those that actually believe this great nation was founded as a 'Christian Nation' and believe that incorrect assumption...allows them the ability to denounce anything that does not fit that illusion or their own bias. :shrug:

Excellent post. Do free thinkers have a club here in TV? There appear to be a few of us! Woohoo!

coffeebean 07-24-2017 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Island57 (Post 1427788)
So nice to hear a rational voice!! The first time I saw one of those little crosses, I thought it was a marker for a buried pet. What ever happened to just stringing one around your neck and calling it a day!

Same with me....I thought there was a buried pet. Then the crosses started popping up all over the place and I realized there couldn't have been that many pets that died in such a short amount of time.

Wiotte 07-24-2017 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Island57 (Post 1427788)
So nice to hear a rational voice!! The first time I saw one of those little crosses, I thought it was a marker for a buried pet. What ever happened to just stringing one around your neck and calling it a day!



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Wiotte 07-24-2017 07:26 PM

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Challenger 07-24-2017 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JanBrown (Post 1427793)
The First Amendment to the Constitution says we have the freedom OF religion, not FROM religion. This expressly means we Americans can, uh, express our religion - like a little white cross.

It is easy to use scare tactics of suggesting we'll have a bunch of Nazi, Muslim, atheist symbols across The Villages, but honestly...seriously... do you really think so? The use of this scare tactic is shameful coming from an American who doesn't understand he is shutting down free speech here in The Villages.

Crosses are ornaments and therefore not allowed. Has nothing to do with religion or free exercise thereof. Be careful what you ask for- you may get it. For instance a life sized religious statue in a yard near Spanish Springs or the dog making a toilet out of a fireplug(same area). I don't believe that Jesus would erect a religious symbol in his yard if he had bought in a neighborhood with a deed restriction prohibiting such décor.

Barefoot 07-24-2017 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1427623)
Change is good. Too many people stuck in their line dance here....

Even if you agreed with the deed restrictions when you purchased a home in TV?

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Originally Posted by Mciccolella (Post 1427524)
No lawn ornaments means no lawn ornaments. That includes anything that is a lawn ornament, religious or not. Simple, very simple. Abide by the restrictions in your district. Follow the rules. The restrictions are not onerous. Keep the anonymous system. I have seen confrontations between neighbors over a stupid ornament and it can divide a neighborhood. What is it that people do not understand about this?

It seems there are lots of residents who didn't bother to read the deed restrictions when they purchased a home in TV. :shrug:

graciegirl 07-25-2017 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1427908)
Even if you agreed with the deed restrictions when you purchased a home in TV?



It seems there are lots of residents who didn't bother to read the deed restrictions when they purchased a home in TV. :shrug:

Barefoot, always a sane, calm voice of reason. You are a kind person and it is my pleasure to know you.

Gpsma 07-25-2017 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1427908)
Even if you agreed with the deed restrictions when you purchased a home in TV?



It seems there are lots of residents who didn't bother to read the deed restrictions when they purchased a home in TV. :shrug:

I remember there was a time when builders use to have deed restrictions not allowing sales to Jews and Blacks.

Deed restrictions are not set in steel. Time for TV to have a re-look at the restrictions.

With the unbridled growth of TV most new buyers aren't of a generation comfortable living with houses made of Ticky Tacky That All Look The Same.

OhioBuckeye 07-25-2017 07:55 AM

OhioBuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by mellincf (Post 1427559)
This is not a Christian country. Christians need a history lesson. This country was founded because Christians were being burned alive BY OTHER CHRISTIANS because they belonged to the wrong denomination of Christianity. Read about the Thirty Years War, Bloody Mary, etc. and realize there is a reason that God is not mentioned in our Constitution, which is by the PEOPLE and for the PEOPLE, not any religion.

Whoa, whoa, I don't need a history lesson about what god I believe in, I'm just answering a simple question about these little white crosses. Keep your history speeches for your faith. Nobody came here to argue, just making a simple comment.


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