[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I take that to mean you ALWAYS come to a COMPLETE stop at that red octagonal sign when you are riding????

Actually that's a good example (but not in the way you meant it to be). By not stopping you ARE breaking the law and just like the deed restrictions eventually you COULD get caught. Also Like the deed restrictions you may get away with it forever. My golf cart can go 29mph. When I "speed" eventually I'll get caught but it's my choice to take the chance.

When one buys here you (should) know what you are signing up for. These types of DR's exist all over the world.

Also, these aren't the kind of laws that require "the constitutional right to face you accusers". I believe the USSC upheld deed restrictions many years ago.

If one is willing to challenge them, which is their right, they should also be willing to face the consequences if they lose.





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[Jim 9922]

Originally Posted by biker1

(i.e. violate)? I hope you are not suggestion that people start putting abandoned cars up on concrete blocks in their front yard. That would certainly bring a bit more diversity The Villages ;-)

It is already being done around the Villages by a couple of hamburger joints and one on the "outskirts" of downtown Brownwood, not to mention a few rotten boats swamped in Lake Sumter. But oh yes, that's the Developers "yard' so it is OK.

[biker1]

I believe the swamped boats are intentional - part of the nautical ambiance of Lake Sumter. I have always wondered where you buy that stuff - "www.decrepitboats.com" ??

Originally Posted by Jim 9922

It is already being done around the Villages by a couple of hamburger joints and one on the "outskirts" of downtown Brownwood, not to mention a few rotten boats swamped in Lake Sumter. But oh yes, that's the Developers "yard' so it is OK.

[autumnspring]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

I may be mistaken but I believe its a symbol for those who are Right to Lifers.

Frankly I don't care what anyone puts on their lawn as long as its not offensive or goes beyond the "spirit" of the deed restrictions.

What is more annoying are those, some on here, who pontificate about "reading the deed restrictions". I guess those are the same people that routinely obey the speed limit and never ever go one mile above it.

Off topic or on topic. I recall seeing a BOOK of traffic violations in NY. It was many years ago. I expect it is no longer printed. I recall you could be ticketed for a rock chip in your windshield. Look, you probably have one. The police have the good sense not to enforce this ticket-even in NY. I have a friend who got a ticket for rolling through a stop sign on a bicycle. I don't know about Fla but in NY you can be ticketed for having you car parked in the same spot for 24 hours straight. Parking your car facing the wrong way on the street is also a violation in NY. Probably in Fla as well.

Sometimes it is not a law but COMMON SENSE that should direct your behavior. SADLY hear as in real life some people either cannot see or refuse to see that they are ever WRONG.

For me, I too do the best I can. I do not object to activity by others that I think is ok for me. Re: someone else s yard, I've not seen a single truly bad yard. Truth be told, thanks to all the rain and the fact that I am doing my own fertilizers-my lawn is pretty darn fine. I have no plan on starting my lawn is greener than your lawn.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by biker1

Probably about as often as you do and you signed up for the same rules as me ;-) And when you are driving, I am sure you also come to a complete stop at every stop sign and have never exceeded the speed limit, or jaywalked, or ... And the discussion was about the deed restrictions, of which I don't violate any. So, what's your point regarding the deed restrictions?

Now I'm confused.

Are you saying that deed restrictions should be followed to the exact letter of the sales documents, but traffic laws are optional????

[biker1]

I am sorry you are confused ;-). Please feel free to do whatever makes you happy as I won't report you to the CDD and I have nothing to do with traffic law enforcement so you are free, as far as I am concerned, to violate as many laws as you wish. As far as I am concerned, I follow the deed restrictions but violate traffic laws probably as frequently as the next guy (I admit that I have gone over the speed limit before, I will say my 3 Hail Marys). What's with the tangent to traffic laws?

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Now I'm confused.

Are you saying that deed restrictions should be followed to the exact letter of the sales documents, but traffic laws are optional????

[autumnspring]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

It's quite reasonable to know what the "spirit" is. It's sorta like when you are on your Harley doing 75 in a 65 and the cop doesn't pull you over because you are driving just fine.

I suggest more people start stretching the deed restrictions. Bring a little diversity to TV in appearance.

I used to know a guy that regularly rode a motorcycle with no PLATES, LICENSE OR INSURANCE. The cops chose not to chase him because it would be dangerous for the cop, the rider and everyone else.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by biker1

I am sorry you are confused ;-). Please feel free to do whatever makes you happy as I won't report you to the CDD and I have nothing to do with traffic law enforcement so you are free, as far as I am concerned, to violate as many laws as you wish. As far as I am concerned, I follow the deed restrictions but violate traffic laws probably as frequently as the next guy.

Looks like I need to rephrase the question.

You stated "You signed up for a set of rules and should follow them. "


I asked if you felt the same way about stop signs while riding your bike.

Somewhere between the question and answer someone made a wrong turn and got off on a tangent.

then you state "As far as I am concerned, I follow the deed restrictions but violate traffic laws probably as frequently as the next guy."

So I'm still confused. Maybe some people follow the traffic laws but violate the deed restrictions as frequently as the next guy. What does that mean?????

[autumnspring]

Originally Posted by biker1

I believe the swamped boats are intentional - part of the nautical ambiance of Lake Sumter. I have always wondered where you buy that stuff - "www.decrepitboats.com" ??

Look on Craiglist, there are always free boats.

[Wiotte]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

I think that requiring complainers to give their names would lead more aggression among neighbors.
It's scary (to me) the way residents sometimes threaten the use of guns.

Thanks to the abuse of the 2nd, no one is safe.


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[biker1]

There are a bunch of things you *should* do in life and when you don't there might be consequences. You *should* follow the traffic laws, and you effectively committed to them when you obtained a driver's license, but many don't and when they get caught there is often a monetary penalty. You signed up for deed restrictions and you *should* follow them but many don't and when they get caught they need to fix the problem or there will be a monetary penalty.

What you *should* do and what you actually do are often two different things. I have no control over what you or others do and unless you put a car up on concrete blocks in my neighborhood I probably don't care. I can only point out what you signed up for, and it appears that many people have no idea what they signed up for with the deed restrictions. Also, trying to discuss deed restrictions and traffic laws in the same sentence is sort of silly since one falls under criminal law and the other is strictly civil. I think that is enough philosophy for the day, don't you?

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Looks like I need to rephrase the question.

You stated "You signed up for a set of rules and should follow them. "


I asked if you felt the same way about stop signs while riding your bike.

Somewhere between the question and answer someone made a wrong turn and got off on a tangent.

then you state "As far as I am concerned, I follow the deed restrictions but violate traffic laws probably as frequently as the next guy."

So I'm still confused. Maybe some people follow the traffic laws but violate the deed restrictions as frequently as the next guy. What does that mean?????

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by biker1

There are a bunch of things you *should* do in life and when you don't there might be consequences. You *should* follow the traffic laws, and you effectively committed to them when you obtained a driver's license, but many don't and when they get caught there is often a monetary penalty. You signed up for deed restrictions and you *should* follow them but many don't and when they get caught they need to fix the problem or there will be a monetary penalty.

What you *should* do and what you actually do are often two different things. I have no control over what you or others do and unless you put a car up on concrete blocks in my neighborhood I probably don't care. I can only point out what you signed up for, and it appears that many people have no idea what they signed up for with the deed restrictions. Also, trying to discuss deed restriction and traffic laws in the same sentence is sort of silly since one falls under criminal law and the other is strictly civil. I think that is enough philosophy for the day, don't you?

Quite agree

Happy biking

[Gpsma]

Yes...let's just all agree I'm right and be done with it!!

[biker1]

That works for me!

Originally Posted by Gpsma

Yes...let's just all agree I'm right and be done with it!!

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

I suggest more people start stretching the deed restrictions. Bring a little diversity to TV in appearance.

I think you're not serious -- just trying to stir the cauldron?