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EdV 07-19-2012 09:18 AM
But Russ, what signage is out there that clearly indicates that the driver must wait for both lanes to be clear before entering into the right lane? It’s counter intuitive to what most drivers do when they merge onto a two lane highway.

And what signage is there at the roundabout at El Camino and Morse that warns a wannabe visitor that they will have to make a sudden lane change at the last minute to get into the visitor lane from the right lane while a resident in the left lane is trying to do the opposite.

rubicon 07-19-2012 09:54 AM
This topic has been a continual discussion for as long as I have lived here (6 years) and I am sure before that. Each and every time the dialogue proves itself to be a "Whose On First" scenario. The repeated telling and the resulting "Whose On First" scenario is very telling and leads me to believe that the construction of round a boutds are a prime example of the term "unintentional consequences." People will always be confused about the proper movement of traffic and once again I say the answer to the OP's question is "Drive carefully"

Gateway Girl 07-19-2012 11:04 AM
I think the roundabouts have been discussed so often and so much because they were such a bad idea in the first place. A community designed around 55+ year old people should not have 2 lane roundabouts!! Period...the end. I do understand the proper way to navigate them, but know that this is not a perfect world and we don't have perfect drivers. The roundabouts are just an accident waiting to happen. I plan to take some of the people's advice and only enter when there are not cars already in there and thus creating a side by side scenario. My first choice, however, is that these roundabouts be converted to just one lane.

Villages PL 07-19-2012 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Golfer in Sanibel (Post 523624)
Have you read the brochure and do you drive the round-a-bouts correctly?
Yes, and yes. I like to drive slowly on the round-a-bouts because driving fast in a tight circle puts excessive wear on the tires. However, it seems that most other drivers to like to speed up on the round-a-bouts. It's as though they think they have entered a race track. I don't care, I'm not going to speed up because they're in a hurry. (They might be on their way to happy hour at the town square.)

Russ_Boston 07-19-2012 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by EdVinMass (Post 524562)
But Russ, what signage is out there that clearly indicates that the driver must wait for both lanes to be clear before entering into the right lane? It’s counter intuitive to what most drivers do when they merge onto a two lane highway.

And what signage is there at the roundabout at El Camino and Morse that warns a wannabe visitor that they will have to make a sudden lane change at the last minute to get into the visitor lane from the right lane while a resident in the left lane is trying to do the opposite.
First of all it is not a two lane highway so the rules are different. Both lanes must be clear to enter the roundabout simply due to the fact that the other lane driver may be exiting, you must assume.

I agree that the north Morse gate can be a mess. I do that move every day after work from the hospital. But I'm aware so I proceed VERY carefully.

Bogie Shooter 07-19-2012 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by EdVinMass (Post 524562)
But Russ, what signage is out there that clearly indicates that the driver must wait for both lanes to be clear before entering into the right lane? It’s counter intuitive to what most drivers do when they merge onto a two lane highway.

And what signage is there at the roundabout at El Camino and Morse that warns a wannabe visitor that they will have to make a sudden lane change at the last minute to get into the visitor lane from the right lane while a resident in the left lane is trying to do the opposite.
There are yield signs posted before entering a roundabout.

ronsroni 07-19-2012 02:25 PM
I do. After careful study of the giide pamphlet AND a chat with a Police Officer who laughed initially, I found that having my 02 drive works for me. (01 is me 02 is he)

bunnyhop 07-19-2012 02:47 PM
> Rubicon - I agree 100%. :-)

Parker 07-19-2012 03:30 PM
Agree, agree!
 
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Originally Posted by edwardt6 (Post 523757)
Change them to 1 lane and solve all the problems
You are obviously brilliant. Can't we put you in charge?

rubicon 07-19-2012 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bunnyhop (Post 524751)
> Rubicon - I agree 100%. :-)
bunnyhop: thank you for noticing:wave:

JoeC1947 07-19-2012 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Parker (Post 524781)
You are obviously brilliant. Can't we put you in charge?
Yes, brilliant. Now how do you propose that gets done? Two lanes leading into the RAB and two lanes in the RAB. That means two lanes merge into one before the RAB and then modify the RAB to one lane. I am tired of of being inconvenienced because some people have no common sense and can't follow simple rules of the road.

Bogie Shooter 07-19-2012 08:58 PM
Come on people there are only 50 posts on this thread. Surely you have an opinion that goes counter to the new signs or the roundabout brochure..........

HMLRHT1 07-19-2012 09:18 PM
That's telling them Bogie!

GaryW 07-20-2012 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill-n-Brillo (Post 524445)
Refer back to the illustration in Indy's post #8 - you can enter the roundabout in the right lane as well as the left lane to make the 2nd right.

Bill :)
Y

You can be in either lane to go all the way around the circle when entering if you dare,, I am saying if you know that entering, then you need to be in the right spot. If you are in the right lane and hit a car turning right when you are going straight around the circle, then it is your fault,,. read into this alittle.
Just happend 2 times. Once to one of our company vehicles. But if you know you are making the first right,, be in the right lane coming in, dont be the one trying to be a hot shot and race around the circle,,

Round-a-bouts are easy to navigate, just use a little thought.

GaryW 07-20-2012 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 524506)
If a speed limit sign says 65 mph is there any question what the rule is?

If a sign at the end of the street says STOP is there any question what the rule is?

If a sign....


The point is there is only ONE way to do the roundabouts. It's not rocket science and it is not up to interpretation. The procedure is clearly posted in that nice visual on the Sumter county site we've posted many, many times.

Yes everyone has there own way of making sure others don't mistakenly bang into them (Personally I enter alone if possible or lag behind to make sure I can take any action necessary). But the law is not in question as some here make you believe. It's cut and dry and police will tell you that after you've been in an accident that you think was someone's fault and YOU get the ticket!!
Nicely Put RB as always :clap2:

Barefoot 07-20-2012 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 524950)
Come on people there are only 50 posts on this thread. Surely you have an opinion that goes counter to the new signs or the roundabout brochure..........
After 55 posts, anyone reading this thread is probably more confused than when they started. It's disconcerting to see that even "seasoned" residents disagree on how best to drive a rotary.

Russ_Boston 07-20-2012 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by GaryW (Post 525012)
Y

You can be in either lane to go all the way around the circle when entering if you dare
Huh? No you can't. If entering on the right then it's either first turn or straight through. No other option. Period.

Maybe you were kidding?

Bill-n-Brillo 07-20-2012 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 524950)
Come on people there are only 50 posts on this thread. Surely you have an opinion that goes counter to the new signs or the roundabout brochure..........
In a word............. :popcorn:

:pepper2:


Bill :wave:

GaryW 07-20-2012 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 525208)
Huh? No you can't. If entering on the right then it's either first turn or straight through. No other option. Period.

Maybe you were kidding?
Yes , I think you see where i was going....

Although,the FHP officer at the our accident, did say you could in a commercial vehicle. That is what the man in uniform with the big Glock on his side was saying..

doccrocker 07-20-2012 06:21 PM
After watching so many "almost oops" at roundabouts, I can't help but think of the words on the tombstone ----"BUT I HAD THE RIGHT OF WAY."
Drive defensively and never drive beside another vehicle.


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