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larrycrilley@gmail.com 08-15-2022 08:18 AM

Roundabouts are an engineering marvel!
 
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Originally Posted by djlnc (Post 2125945)
There are a few roundabouts that have the inner lane marked with yellow lines in some areas seemingly to guide traffic out of the inner lane. Something like the attached picture. This doesn't make any sense to me. Anyone know the reasoning?

I have full faith in those who engineered the roads here in the villages. Roundabouts do a great job of keeping traffic moving. I came from a city where there are either traffic lights or a stop sign at every corner. And it’s the last place in America where a right turn on a red light is still illegal.

Not too many things are annoying, to me, as waiting at red light when there is absolutely zero traffic on the cross street. Travel time wasted. When the light eventually turns green one is forced to stop again a block or two away for another red light (let’s not forget the wasted gas and added exhaust fumes added to the air). A seemingly simple drive to the supermarket 3 miles away can take upwards of a half hour! I had to accept this a fact of life for living there. After 3 years here in the Villages going driving in my hometown seems painful.

These roundabouts are a blessing to me! The forced merger mentioned is far better that waiting for a light to turn green.:BigApplause:

sjlarsen1@gmail.com 08-15-2022 08:23 AM

Because the next right in the roundabout is a single lane and not a 2 lane road like most of the others.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 08-15-2022 08:28 AM

I've read several times that it is illegal to change lanes in a roundabout even though there are broken lines.

In the https://www.districtgov.org/communit...t-02-08-12.pdf example a car entering from 12:00 in the left hand lane that wants to turn left, (or exit at 3:00), must change lanes. If it actually against the law to change lanes, then the car entering from 12:00 in the left hand lane would only have the option of going straight.

We have a roundabout close to my house with two of these single lane barriers. I've always wondered what the point is.

Lottoguy 08-15-2022 08:52 AM

These are marking meant to help navigate the roundabout safely. This isn't really needed if the driver just looked at the sign before you enter the circle. They feel the markings will keep cars in one lane at the most dangerous park of the circle. Where the person thinks it will be okay makings a right hand turn from the left lane and so forth.

Bogie Shooter 08-15-2022 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2125994)
Useless post: None of those links answered the specific question.

Useless post adding nothing, are you bored?

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-15-2022 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2125996)
outside lane should only be going straight?
Which lane should I be in if I wish to turn and exit the roundabout?

The "outside lane" should not "only" be going "straight."

In fact, if you were to go "straight" you'd drive right into the island in the middle of the circle.

The outside lane is for taking the very next exit, after entering the circle. It is also for taking the second exit, which would normally be directly across from your entry point on the other side of the circle.

HOWEVER

If there are only 3 exits, and the second exit after entering is 3/4 of the way around the circle, then you should enter the inner lane in order to take that third exit.

(there are a couple of circles that only have 3 exits/entrances - the rest have four)

All exits are right turns. Even that one 3/4 of the way around the circle. When you get to that exit, if that's the one you want to take, you will be exiting the circle by turning right. It's called a left exit, which is ridiculously confusing to anyone who's never had to deal with traffic circles before. It's also ridiculously confusing to anyone who HAS had to deal with them in other states, where those exits are referred to by their directionals, or by numbers (northeast exit, or third exit). Elsewhere, the process of exiting a traffic circle is referred to as "taking a right" or "exiting the circle to your right."

Marathon Man 08-15-2022 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by djlnc (Post 2125955)
Which immediately forces two lanes into one and seems rather dangerous. My question was what is the reasoning behind this.

It is because the exit only has one lane. You are correct, they force to lanes into one before the exit. Otherwise, two cars exiting would have a conflict. Even more dangerous.

Indydealmaker 08-15-2022 10:20 AM

No such animal as a left turn from a roundabout.

Altavia 08-15-2022 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2126161)
It is because the exit only has one lane. You are correct, they force to lanes into one before the exit. Otherwise, two cars exiting would have a conflict. Even more dangerous.

I think this is generally the correct answer. But there are exceptions. The inner circle markings do indicate stay left.

golfing eagles 08-15-2022 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by meridian5850 (Post 2126043)
What are you talking about? The outside lane should continue straight. You never continue to go left from the outside lane, just like at a normal intersection you'd never make a left hand turn from the right lane. The inner lane has the option to go straight or left.

And the other rule that is getting ignored more often----never enter a RB when a car is coming around IN EITHER LANE, for the very reason you just mentioned.

Davonu 08-15-2022 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2126182)
And the other rule that is getting ignored more often----never enter a RB when a car is coming around IN EITHER LANE, for the very reason you just mentioned.

The #1 rule imo.

Altavia 08-15-2022 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2126182)
And the other rule that is getting ignored more often----never enter a RB when a car is coming around IN EITHER LANE, for the very reason you just mentioned.

And no right turns from the left lane into a single lane street.

Laker14 08-15-2022 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2126159)
The "outside lane" should not "only" be going "straight."

In fact, if you were to go "straight" you'd drive right into the island in the middle of the circle.

The outside lane is for taking the very next exit, after entering the circle. It is also for taking the second exit, which would normally be directly across from your entry point on the other side of the circle.

HOWEVER

If there are only 3 exits, and the second exit after entering is 3/4 of the way around the circle, then you should enter the inner lane in order to take that third exit.

(there are a couple of circles that only have 3 exits/entrances - the rest have four)

All exits are right turns. Even that one 3/4 of the way around the circle. When you get to that exit, if that's the one you want to take, you will be exiting the circle by turning right. It's called a left exit, which is ridiculously confusing to anyone who's never had to deal with traffic circles before. It's also ridiculously confusing to anyone who HAS had to deal with them in other states, where those exits are referred to by their directionals, or by numbers (northeast exit, or third exit). Elsewhere, the process of exiting a traffic circle is referred to as "taking a right" or "exiting the circle to your right."

Again, my question was a rhetorical question, in response to a post that said "right lane should only go straight"...

twoplanekid 08-15-2022 12:22 PM

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So, it's ok for me to follow the red line which places me at the resident gate even though I switch lanes in the roundabout.:angel: Note that I am not crossing any marked lanes in the roundabout as I am going south on Buena Vista to then enter the Hillsborough gate. Several times cars in the right hand lane are also trying to make a left hand turn as the arrows when approaching the roundabout are indicating straight for both lanes.

Laker14 08-15-2022 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 2126212)
So, it's ok for me to follow the red line which places me at the resident gate even though I switch lanes in the roundabout.:angel: Note that I am not crossing any marked lanes in the roundabout as I am going south on Buena Vista to then enter the Hillsborough gate. Several times cars in the right hand lane are also trying to make a left hand turn as the arrows when approaching the roundabout are indicating straight for both lanes.

I wouldn't. I'd stay in the left lane, exit into the left lane, and either go through the non-resident gate, or change lanes after the roundabout.
I've been told that it is against the law to change lanes in the roundabout. I don't know if that is true or not, but I think it's a dangerous move.


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