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John41 09-16-2020 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by STLRAY (Post 1833376)
I am hoping to move to TV in the near future. I have posted a few questions and many of you have generously supplied your valuable insights. I appreciate every response.

In reading this board and other places it appears that most people end up moving a couple times within TV. I am curious why this occurs. Do you find that other villages are more to your liking after being there for a while? Do you find the house you initially bought does not meet your needs and it is worth the effort and expense to relocate within TV?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Only one couple in our 99 villas moved to another home in The Villages. The rest moved out of The Villages for various reasons. I am skeptical about most villagers moving twice. Sounds like realtor sales talk.

dave from deland 09-16-2020 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by STLRAY (Post 1833376)
I am hoping to move to TV in the near future. I have posted a few questions and many of you have generously supplied your valuable insights. I appreciate every response.

In reading this board and other places it appears that most people end up moving a couple times within TV. I am curious why this occurs. Do you find that other villages are more to your liking after being there for a while? Do you find the house you initially bought does not meet your needs and it is worth the effort and expense to relocate within TV?

Inquiring minds want to know.

I know one of the reasons is that people bought a model that did not have an 'open concept' which makes one feel 'closed in'. Compare between the two for the one you like the most. The Lantana model is an open concept.

dsettl 09-16-2020 09:21 AM

how do enter a new subject ??

elord27 09-16-2020 09:22 AM

That is why we're not buying a huge place! We just bought in Lynnhaven and will be snowbirds in 2022!

Spike380 09-16-2020 09:25 AM

With us, we bought small at first, cause still had a home up North; then we went to a Gardenia, cause after I saw that, that was my dream house. I guess as we get older we'll go back to something small.

Marshaw 09-16-2020 09:42 AM

Something not mentioned is that when some come at first they are maintaining a home somewhere else. They buy economically because of that to just get her if you will. At a later date when the retired and fully commit they re-purchase. Or they finally sell the house back home and find something nicer or bigger or both.. then 20 years later when one spouse dies the reverse kicks in.

DARFAP 09-16-2020 09:43 AM

Because they can

New Englander 09-16-2020 09:47 AM

Capital Gains Tax
 
If you buy a house and sell it less than two years later don't you have to pay capital gains tax?

Curtisbwp 09-16-2020 10:03 AM

Well..1. I have always been a realestate speculator. Since i was in my early 20s i have bought and sold realestate. When i moved to tv, i bought a lot, designed (within tv guidlines.) I lived in it for 2 years al the while watching the market. I sold that house for a $70,000 profit. I then rolled the money over to much ****** house. Now i am building a house in Maine. Across from a lake. One day i may downsize in tv.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 09-16-2020 10:05 AM

You can come by, and bring $100
 
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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1833643)
Only one couple in our 99 villas moved to another home in The Villages. The rest moved out of The Villages for various reasons. I am skeptical about most villagers moving twice. Sounds like realtor sales talk.

and I’ll put up a $1000, you get the $1000 if I can’t show you 5 house sales , you give me the $100 if I do and I know many people who have moved at least 3 times as far as capital gains you have an a profit exemption they keep changing it but it’s covered all my home here

Stu from NYC 09-16-2020 10:11 AM

Fascinating thread, we will know more after the world opens up again and we see which activities we want and wear they are located.

bonniemanross 09-16-2020 10:32 AM

Moving different places here in The Villages
 
I was a Realtor in this area for 13 years and definitely noticed this pattern. You had the folks who bought a smaller home first then moved up or a larger one and needed something smaller. The change we noticed a lot was from folks that had been in the Service and was use to moving every two to three years with new deployments. So they get something down here, fix it up how they want and then they are ready to move on to another place. We saw this time and again.

LianneMigiano 09-16-2020 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1833421)
When I first started flipping houses it was way before I was married and flipped so many houses because of Fast Women and Slow Horses. I needed the Money Man!!

Now that I'm here I came with a plan of flipping one house each year. Not necessarily moving each time like before but I decided that it was way more important to be happy than chase the dollar bill like I did my entire life. We started in a Manufactured Home and will make one more move in The Villages. 5 years was enough time to confirm that we absolutely love it here. We may even risk a move to the other side. We shall see. It's about being free at this point. We already did the big house thing and don't want that anymore. I think our final number of houses will be TWO!

I would love a CYV with a two-car garage and a pool. Two Poloponies would be nice also!! :1rotfl:

There's a CYV with a pool for sale here in our neighborhood on Peachtree Ave. Great neighborhood and near the Polo Grounds....

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-16-2020 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Villagesgal (Post 1833576)
Take your time. Don't settle, the perfect home will come, you may have to wait for it, but ultimately the wait will be worth it and you'll love it here.

Not everyone is in a position to do that. It's one of the many reasons why people move from one property to another in the Villages. We buy what we can afford, at the time we have to decide to move from "outside." And at some point, we might be in a position to afford something else, and we do so. Again, it's just one reason. But it is a valid reason.

We knew we'd be here eventually. We just weren't planning on being here so soon. Our next dwelling will -probably- be a smidge larger. Maybe just 90 square feet, big enough to accommodate a nice-sized laundry room inside the house instead of outside of it. And possibly a slightly wider driveway (maybe just 2 feet wider, really not much) to accommodate our two golf carts, compact car, and pickup truck without feeling the squeeze, and still have plenty of room for a little picnic table near the door.

We're not talking about huge changes. But ours is a 35-year-old manufactured home, and we'll be making upgrades to it soon. We might end up ripping out the side wall that backs up to the shed, and finishing the shed to make it a legal indoor room instead of an outdoor shed. But that's not for at least few more years.

Meanwhile, we're enjoying what we have, because of its location and the overall feeling of the neighborhood and rec area.

John41 09-16-2020 11:57 AM

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John41 09-16-2020 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 1833684)
and I’ll put up a $1000, you get the $1000 if I can’t show you 5 house sales , you give me the $100 if I do and I know many people who have moved at least 3 times as far as capital gains you have an a profit exemption they keep changing it but it’s covered all my home here

Call your 5 and raise you 10 I can show you who haven’t moved.:a040:

rmd2 09-16-2020 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by STLRAY (Post 1833376)
I am hoping to move to TV in the near future. I have posted a few questions and many of you have generously supplied your valuable insights. I appreciate every response.

In reading this board and other places it appears that most people end up moving a couple times within TV. I am curious why this occurs. Do you find that other villages are more to your liking after being there for a while? Do you find the house you initially bought does not meet your needs and it is worth the effort and expense to relocate within TV?

Inquiring minds want to know.

I rented in 4 different places in The Villages. After 18 months I knew what kind of house I wanted and what location I wanted. Bought a house and have never moved since (it's been 10 years)!

donassaid 09-16-2020 01:18 PM

From my perspective, one reason is because of being influenced by realtors who are more interested in a sale than listening to what you really want. Anither is the rush to buy something without having soent much time in TV to get to know different neighborhoods, different shopping areas, and different amenities. You should rent for at least 6 months or visited several times to get a feel for where you want to live.

ShaSha 09-16-2020 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by STLRAY (Post 1833376)
I am hoping to move to TV in the near future. I have posted a few questions and many of you have generously supplied your valuable insights. I appreciate every response.

In reading this board and other places it appears that most people end up moving a couple times within TV. I am curious why this occurs. Do you find that other villages are more to your liking after being there for a while? Do you find the house you initially bought does not meet your needs and it is worth the effort and expense to relocate within TV?

Inquiring minds want to know.

IMHO.
Most are downsizing and cleaning out years of accumulation before the move. They buy a bigger house usually and then realize smaller is better and more time to PLAY! Then there are a few who just want to buy bigger after buying smaller. Then the 3rd group wants the profit and a brand new house. They have less stuff and feel it is okay. Confusing yes but after living here for 15 months - I think I get it.

cndlou3 09-16-2020 01:43 PM

My question is has anyone weighed the options of the all upgrades you want done vs purchasing a different home? That is where we are at the moment. IE: want to enclose lanai, would love to enclose birdcage also to make a huge enclosed lanai, upgrade all appliances, counters in kitchen, new windows, expand LR wall to make it bigger, golf cart garage and new flooring. Would really like to get popcorn off the ceilings too hate that stuff. A few more years until retirement so just tossing ideas around. Love our area, but trying to weigh the cost of each out.

mjpuleo 09-16-2020 02:34 PM

in 10 years we have moved 4 times already. 3 were brand new homes and one was a pre-owned. we are now in a brand new Patio Villa on the south side in Marsh Bend. they have done big improvements to the patio villas--made them bigger and give you a lot more for your money. also, we loved the gray tones in the kitchen/bathrooms rather than the normal brown tones which we have always had. in our other homes we never, ever used our lanai and this house was built without a lanai but i do have a separate garage for my golf cart and a separate garage for my car. and the best part of moving so many times is that we we always made a substantial profit on the homes we sold, otherwise we would have never moved.

Graspher 09-16-2020 02:41 PM

We researched TV for 2 years that included two 7 day lifestyle visits where we visited over 50 pre-owned houses for sale.

One year into our research we knew we wanted to root in TV and began looking to purchase.

We started out with a mindset of....”one and done”.

It took us almost 2 years to find what works for us. We held out until the “perfect” house emerged and that paid off. We have zero desire for any other home because this place checks more boxes then we started with.

That said - when one of us dies the other may sell to scale down. But that would be the only reason.

John41 09-16-2020 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mjpuleo (Post 1833828)
in 10 years we have moved 4 times already. 3 were brand new homes and one was a pre-owned. we are now in a brand new Patio Villa on the south side in Marsh Bend. they have done big improvements to the patio villas--made them bigger and give you a lot more for your money. also, we loved the gray tones in the kitchen/bathrooms rather than the normal brown tones which we have always had. in our other homes we never, ever used our lanai and this house was built without a lanai but i do have a separate garage for my golf cart and a separate garage for my car. and the best part of moving so many times is that we we always made a substantial profit on the homes we sold, otherwise we would have never moved.

WOW, glad you had better luck picking a wife, sales commissions are a lot less than alimony

Knighterrant 09-17-2020 05:25 AM

We purchased a new CYV thinking it would be an ideal house long term for us. After about a year, we realized it wasn’t the best fit (primarily due to size - inside and back yard).

We found that we entertain more here than we ever have elsewhere. And we participate in more activities, which equates to more stuff. We also enjoy having a larger screened outdoor area, weather permitting, and our CYV couldn’t accommodate that.

We sold and purchased a larger house in a different village. Renting prior to purchasing might have helped with our initial choice, but only if we had rented long term (6 months or more), in the specific house model we were contemplating utilizing our own furniture, and in the specific village we were contemplating. That would have been challenging to do, and we would have still moved twice.

My advice is to consider the lifestyle you want, do as much research as you can, and pull the trigger. If you decide to make a change in a year or two (or five), you will likely not loose money when you sell. This is especially true if you are purchasing with cash (closing costs for a mortgage can add up fast). We sold and closed our CYV in under 90 days during Covid for near asking price. The cost to move within TV is pretty reasonable.

It probably set us back a few thousand to make the transition between the two houses factoring sales proceeds less cost to move, closing costs and commission to sell. Not to mention the pain associated with moving. But those costs helped us make a better final decision for our “new” long term home.

ctmurray 09-17-2020 05:57 AM

Not moved yet but keep looking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by STLRAY (Post 1833376)
I am hoping to move to TV in the near future. I have posted a few questions and many of you have generously supplied your valuable insights. I appreciate every response.

In reading this board and other places it appears that most people end up moving a couple times within TV. I am curious why this occurs. Do you find that other villages are more to your liking after being there for a while? Do you find the house you initially bought does not meet your needs and it is worth the effort and expense to relocate within TV?

Inquiring minds want to know.

We like our house, and really like the neighbors. But the garage is small only room for a car and a cart and laundry. I would like 3 car so there is plenty of room for parking, and one with a work bench along the front. So we have kept an eye open for houses in the area, and nearly pulled the trigger on one, but my wife really did not want to go through the hassle of moving. Then when Covid hit and the pools were closed, we looked at houses with pools, even found one in our area. But it sold very quickly, and again we were thinking for too long.

We had only rented for three months before purchasing. And it takes longer than that for you to see all the various areas. So I could see someone purchasing and learning more, and deciding on a move. An example might be moving closer to a town square. Also, you might have purchased an existing home, and now they have opened up new construction, and you have always wanted to "build" and move into a brand new home, instead of renovating the one you live in now.

Also, if you get the Daily Sun you get a daily insert of homes for sale. And this gives you a lust for an upgrade. It is amazing the draw of those ads.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 09-17-2020 10:23 AM

Realter influences, I know my moves
 
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Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 1833793)
From my perspective, one reason is because of being influenced by realtors who are more interested in a sale than listening to what you really want. Anither is the rush to buy something without having soent much time in TV to get to know different neighborhoods, different shopping areas, and different amenities. You should rent for at least 6 months or visited several times to get a feel for where you want to live.

are not influenced by a Realter and I doubt many others are, my life was always about moving from one place in the world to the next , and sometimes.very, very fast according to how close the the potential new regime was to the capitol lol , I still move a lot not because the grass is greener (although it usually is) but because I like the change , just like at 81 I still enjoy alternating winters in Miami Beach Hawaii and Thailand maybe not this year
change is good and it cost me nothing to move, and puts a little money , sometimes a lot of money in my pocket

Heartnsoul 09-18-2020 09:09 AM

To go larger, smaller, neighbors, pool, views, less maintenance, etc. No more profits to be made here. Houses high so u may break even but moving is expensive too

thelegges 09-18-2020 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1833584)
While some people do move to upsize or downsize, I have to wonder if the "three moves on average" statistic is misleading. There are posts on this thread about people that have moved seven or eight times. Let's say that a person moves seven times and another moves eight times and three people never move. That's an average of three moves per person. But it really doesn't tell the story.

There are other posts about people flipping houses. Some people buy a second house ad rent it out as a source of income. Are those sales considered moves?

If these things are happening a lot, it would bring that "average" way up when the majority of people buy one house and stay in it for the rest of their lives.

The only stats TV keeps is how many houses you buy. We know a few people who own over 15 homes here, as rentals. I think the stats are made up by whoever you are speaking to. Plus does it really matter who moves where. Many here came from military and moved so many times they lost count. So couple moves here is normal, especially when one spouse is gone


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