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phojo 06-01-2025 07:53 AM

Years ago Marion County said No to The Villages further growth northward. Not sure about Lake County.

Altavia 06-01-2025 08:12 AM

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Much off the land south of the Turnpike was owned by previous developers making acquisition of large tracts relatively easy.

Secret Promise is one example

https://www.legacysite.landbrokermls...1408645118.pdf

Endless Horizon

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ud6Bl80lWQA

DonnaNi4os 06-01-2025 08:54 AM

I was told that Marion County will not permit The Billages to move any further north. Apparently it has to do with voting which could risk the way Marion County’s horse industry, dog breeding and farming might be impacted. I believe this is the case and that is why in the Mulberry area there are no houses across 42 that are owned by Villagers. I also believe that the ultimate plan is to build as far south as the outskirts of Orlando

DonnaNi4os 06-01-2025 08:55 AM

I was told that Marion County will not permit The Villages to move any further north. Apparently it has to do with voting which could risk the way Marion County’s horse industry, dog breeding and farming might be impacted. I believe this is the case and that is why in the Mulberry area there are no houses across 42 that are owned by Villagers. I also believe that the ultimate plan is to build as far south as the outskirts of Orlando

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-01-2025 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by phojo (Post 2435781)
Years ago Marion County said No to The Villages further growth northward. Not sure about Lake County.

Lake County is ALREADY developed northward by other developers and individual homeowners, all the way up to the Ocala Forest, which is protected and can't be developed.

EnzoDe 06-01-2025 09:11 AM

Implications of the aging baby boomers.
 
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Originally Posted by jimhoward (Post 2435470)
I've heard it said by a real estate agent that the Villages already owns enough land in the south to build homes at the current rate for the next 15 to 20 years. He says they own as far south as you can see from Eastport. I have no easy way or desire to check that claim, but they do for sure own a lot of land.

It would be impressive if the Villages Development Corp was able to build and sell 3000+ new homes/year for the next 20 years. But, will the demand for the villages going forward be strong enough to exceed that? Given the steadily increasing number of real estate listings, and the increasing time on the market, I doubt it.

So I think one thing that may limit development to the North, West and East is that the villages already has already bitten off as much as they can chew to the south.


On radio program Coast to Coast AM on April 1st 2025 demographer and marketer Kenneth Gronbach discussed the profound demographic shifts currently shaping the global landscape.

He also addressed the implications of the aging baby boomer population (who are currently 61 to 80 years old), noting that "they have trillions of dollars" and so they continue to be a force to be recognized. States like Florida will likely see a rise in population as more of the boomers move there in retirement, he added.

“Peek of Baby Boomers are 1957, 58, 59, 60 and 61. These Boomers are not in Florida yet because they are too young. Once they come, Florida will explode”. *
* Coast-to-Coast-Apr-01-2025-Hour-1, Time 18:00

BillyGrown 06-01-2025 09:22 AM

They have already come
 
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Originally Posted by EnzoDe (Post 2435818)
On radio program Coast to Coast AM on April 1st 2025 demographer and marketer Kenneth Gronbach discussed the profound demographic shifts currently shaping the global landscape.

He also addressed the implications of the aging baby boomer population (who are currently 61 to 80 years old), noting that "they have trillions of dollars" and so they continue to be a force to be recognized. States like Florida will likely see a rise in population as more of the boomers move there in retirement, he added.

“Peek of Baby Boomers are 1957, 58, 59, 60 and 61. These Boomers are not in Florida yet because they are too young. Once they come, Florida will explode”. *
* Coast-to-Coast-Apr-01-2025-Hour-1, Time 18:00


They have already retired for the most part. Most likely have had their first social security check. If you were born in 1961, you are already 63 or 64 years of age.

Bill14564 06-01-2025 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by EnzoDe (Post 2435818)
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“Peek of Baby Boomers are 1957, 58, 59, 60 and 61. These Boomers are not in Florida yet because they are too young. Once they come, Florida will explode”. *
* Coast-to-Coast-Apr-01-2025-Hour-1, Time 18:00

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Originally Posted by BillyGrown (Post 2435825)
They have already retired for the most part. Most likely have had their first social security check. If you were born in 1961, you are already 63 or 64 years of age.

Yep. At 62 I am no longer the youngest in the neighborhood and I feel a bit old when I get south of 44.

CybrSage 06-01-2025 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 2435475)
A lot of people say well pre-owned homes have lower bonds, have made improvements, etc. but I still would choose a new home in a new neighborhood over a pre-owned and I think that is why there are so many pre-owned homes on the market for 3 to 6 months or even longer.

We bought a 1 year old pre-owned due to it both being a turnkey and having the color of counters and flooring we wanted.

A lot of people are turned off about not being able to pick the colors of things in a new home...unless you pony up a lot more money.

The lottery system is a great idea, but I know a couple who put in for 7 different houses before they finally were allowed to buy one. It was not exactly what they wanted even though it was brand new. They are removing the new carpeting they did not want at all but had to get.

For me, getting the colors I wanted AND a fully furnished 1 year old home for $10k over a brand new one with colors I disliked and no furniture was an easy choice.

The beauty of it is there are plenty of both to go around...we all win. :)

merrymini 06-01-2025 10:58 AM

The us versus them mentality is very silly. Wherever you live, you go to the activity you want to do. Yes the newer districts are different, so what? Anyone buying a house now will be living in it when it is 12 years old someday, unless you move every 12 years. They may run out of old people, though it looks like gen x may outnumber us.

JMintzer 06-01-2025 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DonnaNi4os (Post 2435811)
I was told that Marion County will not permit The Billages to move any further north. Apparently it has to do with voting which could risk the way Marion County’s horse industry, dog breeding and farming might be impacted. I believe this is the case and that is why in the Mulberry area there are no houses across 42 that are owned by Villagers. I also believe that the ultimate plan is to build as far south as the outskirts of Orlando

I cannot see how that will be possible, as there are already multiple housing developments built (or being built) that are blocking the way.

JMintzer 06-01-2025 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by EnzoDe (Post 2435818)
On radio program Coast to Coast AM on April 1st 2025 demographer and marketer Kenneth Gronbach discussed the profound demographic shifts currently shaping the global landscape.

He also addressed the implications of the aging baby boomer population (who are currently 61 to 80 years old), noting that "they have trillions of dollars" and so they continue to be a force to be recognized. States like Florida will likely see a rise in population as more of the boomers move there in retirement, he added.

“Peek of Baby Boomers are 1957, 58, 59, 60 and 61. These Boomers are not in Florida yet because they are too young. Once they come, Florida will explode”. *
* Coast-to-Coast-Apr-01-2025-Hour-1, Time 18:00

Don't forget, Gen-Xers are now starting to retire and they are a demographic about the same size as the Boomers...

From the Google Machine:

"In the United States, the Baby Boomer generation (born 1946-1964) currently has a population share of 19.67%, while Generation X (born 1965-1980) has 19.27%. While the Boomer generation peaked at 78.8 million in 1999, Statista. By 2028, Pew Research Center projects Gen X to surpass Boomers in population, with 63.9 million Gen Xers and 62.9 million Boomers."

G.R.I.T.S. 06-01-2025 01:44 PM

There’re two places to cross 441 at traffic lights.

Bill14564 06-01-2025 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by G.R.I.T.S. (Post 2435908)
There’re two places to cross 441 at traffic lights.

Assuming you mean by golf cart, what are the two intersections and which are in the Villages?

ElDiabloJoe 06-01-2025 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2435907)
Don't forget, Gen-Xers are now starting to retire and they are a demographic about the same size as the Boomers...

From the Google Machine:

"In the United States, the Baby Boomer generation (born 1946-1964) currently has a population share of 19.67%, while Generation X (born 1965-1980) has 19.27%. While the Boomer generation peaked at 78.8 million in 1999, Statista. By 2028, Pew Research Center projects Gen X to surpass Boomers in population, with 63.9 million Gen Xers and 62.9 million Boomers."

I am of that generation (Gen-X) having been born in 1969. I have also been retired fully since 2019, so Gen-X is here already thankyouerymuch.


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