[NYGUY]

Originally Posted by l2ridehd

There are only two reasons to own a SL golf cart.
1. You have a serious death wish.
2. You are completely crazy and don't know any better.

End of discussion!!!

[jimbo2012]

these are hazards, almost plowed into one yesterday.

[bonrich]

It is still a GOLF CART!! Never made or intended to go 25 to 30 mph. Narrow stance, short wheelbase, way out of balance. Not a good thing to put on the road with aggressive drivers, especially those with a short fuse.

[tuccillo]

Under the current law, cyclists and street legal golf carts are just as entitled to use the roads as you are. As the overtaking vehicle, you are required to pass in a safe and legal manner. That means using your turn signals and giving cyclists at least 3 feet of clearance. Also, under the law, there is no minimum speed for cyclists. I am sorry that other people are inconveniencing you but we live in a society where many resources, paid for with tax dollars, are meant to be shared by the community. Slow down, enjoy the ride, and share the roads with the rest of the fine people in our beautiful community. You can, of course, work to change the law but those of us who pay taxes that help maintain the roads will work against any such change. Your suggestion of a minimum speed limit of 28 mph would exclude cyclists from using the roads.

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast

With the volume of traffic on Morse and Buena Vista, there should be a minimum speed for EVERYONE on wheels to obey.

It is absolutely ridiculous, when both lanes are full of cars moving along steadily, to come up behind a wobbly bicyclist or reclining bicyclist 1 foot above ground and plodding along at 12 mph! They stall everybody. Same thing with a street legal cart lollygagging along at 22mph when dozens of cars are stalled behind them. CLUELESS!

Minimum speed should be something like 28 if speed limit is 35.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by tuccillo

Under the current law, cyclists and street legal golf carts are just as entitled to use the roads as you are. As the overtaking vehicle, so are required to pass in a safe and legal manner. That means using your turn signals and giving cyclists at least 3 feet of clearance. Also, under the law, there is no minimum speed for cyclists. I am sorry that other people are inconveniencing you but we live in a society where many resources, paid for with tax dollars, are meant to be shared by the community. Slow down, enjoy the ride, and share the roads with the rest of the fine people in our beautiful community. You can, of course, work to change the law but those of us who pay taxes that help maintain the roads will work against any such change. Your suggestion of a minimum speed limit of 28 mph would exclude cyclists from using the roads.

Hi tuccillo, let me take a wild guess you are a bicyclist, own a street legal cart, or both?

To suggest that every person has to agree with your philosophy to slow down enjoy the ride and share the roads based on your definition of the aforementioned is unrealistic; albeit I make every effort to accommodate others.

Slow moving vehicles create as many hazards as fast moving vehicles. Many states are now allowing motorcyclist to legally weave in between traffic which is an accident waiting to happen. This sort of dynamic drives some motorist to road rage.

Notice what happens when a vehicle in the left lane on say 466 moves at or below the speed limit.


Personal Best Regards

[Challenger]

Let's forget the law for a moment and talk about a ton or more of auto moving at 25 to 35 mph on a street. The phsics of a collision would indicate that the much, much lighter vehicle is going to have the most severe effect from a collision. Even though the law may be on your side, I can't understand why anyone would want to put their life and well being into the hands of auto drivers, who might have a moment loss of focus and maim or kill the operator of a cart or bike. (I had the right to be there)!! Yes we all travel in cars and you can make similar arguments, but autos are now encased with multitudes of safety items to protect the passengers. Not so with bikes or carts.

[joldnol]

Originally Posted by Challenger

Let's forget the law for a moment and talk about a ton or more of auto moving at 25 to 35 mph on a street. The physics of a collision would indicate that the much, much lighter vehicle is going to have the most severe effect from a collision. Even though the law may be on your side, I can't understand why anyone would want to put their life and well being into the hands of auto drivers, who might have a moment loss of focus and maim or kill the operator of a cart or bike. (I had the right to be there)!! Yes we all travel in cars and you can make similar arguments, but autos are now encased with multitudes of safety items to protect the passengers. Not so with bikes or carts.

stop bringing common sense to the discussion

[Chazz]

Originally Posted by Challenger

Let's forget the law for a moment and talk about a ton or more of auto moving at 25 to 35 mph on a street. The phsics of a collision would indicate that the much, much lighter vehicle is going to have the most severe effect from a collision. Even though the law may be on your side, I can't understand why anyone would want to put their life and well being into the hands of auto drivers, who might have a moment loss of focus and maim or kill the operator of a cart or bike. (I had the right to be there)!! Yes we all travel in cars and you can make similar arguments, but autos are now encased with multitudes of safety items to protect the passengers. Not so with bikes or carts.

Perhaps we should all be driving 18 wheeled tractor trailers to ensure we are the most likely to survive collisions with those puny little death trap cars.

[Chazz]

Originally Posted by jimbo2012

these are hazards, almost plowed into one yesterday.

How in the world did that happen?

[patfla06]

Originally Posted by l2ridehd

There are only two reasons to own a SL golf cart.
1. You have a serious death wish.
2. You are completely crazy and don't know any better.

[ureout]

Originally Posted by jimbo2012

these are hazards, almost plowed into one yesterday.

finally someone that admits they do not know how to drive!!!! first of all if you looked in front of you 50/100yds you would not get stuck behind a street legal cart, bicyclist or slow scooter. as far as them bogging down traffic....get the people who constantly drive in the left lane... otherwise known as the PASSING LANE to move to the right then traffic would move along

[sunnyatlast]

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast

With the volume of traffic on Morse and Buena Vista, there should be a minimum speed for EVERYONE on wheels to obey.

It is absolutely ridiculous, when both lanes are full of cars moving along steadily, to come up behind a wobbly bicyclist or reclining bicyclist 1 foot above ground and plodding along at 12 mph! They stall everybody. Same thing with a street legal cart lollygagging along at 22mph when dozens of cars are stalled behind them. CLUELESS!

Minimum speed should be something like 28 if speed limit is 35.

Originally Posted by tuccillo

Under the current law, cyclists and street legal golf carts are just as entitled to use the roads as you are. As the overtaking vehicle, so are required to pass in a safe and legal manner. That means using your turn signals and giving cyclists at least 3 feet of clearance. Also, under the law, there is no minimum speed for cyclists. I am sorry that other people are inconveniencing you but we live in a society where many resources, paid for with tax dollars, are meant to be shared by the community. Slow down, enjoy the ride, and share the roads with the rest of the fine people in our beautiful community. You can, of course, work to change the law but those of us who pay taxes that help maintain the roads will work against any such change. Your suggestion of a minimum speed limit of 28 mph would exclude cyclists from using the roads.

"When both lanes are full of cars moving along steadily" means when we come up behind a SL cart going 22mph or bicyclist going not even half the speed limit of 35mph, that means we cannot go around the slow driver/rider because the left lane is full.

And as for being "entitled" to share the road, you're not "entitled" to make all other vehicles stop or slow down to half the speed limit because you're "entitled" to refuse to keep up with the flow of traffic.

[sunnyatlast]

Originally Posted by ureout

finally someone that admits they do not know how to drive!!!! first of all if you looked in front of you 50/100yds you would not get stuck behind a street legal cart, bicyclist or slow scooter. as far as them bogging down traffic....get the people who constantly drive in the left lane... otherwise known as the PASSING LANE to move to the right then traffic would move along

Did you ever consider that the driver in some of these situations described came up upon a slow or stopped cart because the car driver came around a CURVE in the street, or around the curve of a roundabout?? Not everything in the roadways is visible 100 years ahead!

[ureout]

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast

Did you ever consider that the driver in some of these situations described came up upon a slow or stopped cart because the car driver came around a CURVE in the street, or around the curve of a roundabout?? Not everything in the roadways is visible 100 years ahead!

lol...really...yes that's right i forgot where we live, we have all these winding roads and hair pin curves... and as far as the roundabouts the problem there is that drivers almost come to a complete STOP when there is no other traffic in the circle ....its a YIELD not a STOP

[bimmertl]

Originally Posted by alzjr

Get over it! These are slow intercity streets with a MAXIMUM speed limit of 35 MPH, not Interstate highways. If you cant't anticipate slower moving traffic you should not be driving. There are bicycles, slow scooters, tractors, and mowing equipment all using these streets. Move over to the other lane that's what it is for.
I have driven over 35000 miles with my LSV in The Villages and never had a problem.

You missed the point, you are the problem.