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bragones 11-29-2022 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy1 (Post 2161528)
Yes, it IS the dogs owners choice but you are missing my point totally. I am asking WHY ….WHY do dog owners bring their dog to an event that thousands of people are going to be jammed into a small roped off area? Give me the reasons you do it…..seriously….WHY do you?

My previous dog used to turn the other way when I brought him to a square, so I stopped taking him. My current dog pipes up with excitement/wagging and practically pulls me into a square as we approach, so I take him there for a 1/2 hour or so. You asked why....because it makes us both happy. If its a packed event, I would stay on the outskirts though.

Veiragirl 11-29-2022 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy1 (Post 2161423)
Saturday I was at the Brownwood Paddock Square with some family and friends for the Christmas tree lighting. The place was absolutely packed. Thousands of people were in the square. The bleacher seating area was full, the chairs were full, the dance floor was full, the blocked off area for vendors around the square was packed with people. So serious question….why do you insist on bringing your very large dog to this ‘packed with people’ event? Now before you accuse me of not liking dogs, I love dogs! I have a dog but would never take him to a crowed event like I was at Saturday and would love to know why you feel you have to bring your dog or dogs to this type of event. If it is a service dog that is one thing but I saw dogs there the size of goat or a small horse and they were not service dogs. I really don’t think dogs care one bit about the ‘lighting of a big Christmas tree’! I have discussed this with a number of people and for the life of us we can’t come up with why people do this. So please enlighten me….why do you bring your dog to a jam packed people event?

Forget the big dogs issue it's gonna happen. My problem is the huge amount of PEOPLE. We have lived here for 10 years and have gone to this event every year...except this one. We tried to find a parking spot for the golfcart and did. In front of MVP gym. Needless to say we didnt stay. Ever since the Villages built across 44 , the crowds at everything are really bad.

GmaLisaG 11-29-2022 08:28 AM

Maybe just plainly that they want to bring them. No rule against it and maybe they just don't want to leave the dog alone at home. Their choice. I have dogs and love them dearly and choose not to bring them. My choice. ❤️

Whitley 11-29-2022 08:33 AM

No skin in the fight
 
I have no pets. Want to get that out there. I am amazed at people who get so upset over a dog at the outside square. You do not need to know why the owner brings the dog. You can be curious, and if you wish, ask someone when you see it, but no one really needs to give anyone a reason. I guessed at a few reasons. They meet others at the square with similar views on dogs, they feel more comfortable having the dog with them, they are socially awkward and the dog helps with their stress, having a dog with them leads to meeting more people. Whatever reason they have, it is their reason. Not worth stressing over.

kendi 11-29-2022 08:39 AM

If its that important for you to know then ask them directly. We brought our dog everywhere for the first 3 or 4 days after arriving at our rental. Gave her time to acclimate to the new house and environment before leaving her alone. She had been abandoned by previous owners so this was especially important to do. After that, no more to the squares.

Daxdog 11-29-2022 08:46 AM

Why do you bring kids, especially babies in strollers, they don’t care!

airstreamingypsy 11-29-2022 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 2161475)
Dog owners' choice. Not your business!

Exactly...... these people. <rolls eyes> Wah wah wah..... I saw dogs at the squares.

mjr0773 11-29-2022 08:51 AM

“why do you bring your dog to a jam packed people event?”

To the OP, why do you direct this towards everyone who reads this post. I was there that night too. The vast majority of participants did not have a dog with them.

manaboutown 11-29-2022 08:56 AM

My son who resides in the Panhandle area of Idaho has a wonderful (and smart) Terrier mix small dog which loves running and playing outdoors in nature. It loves to chase squirrels more than anything else. I doubt that dog would enjoy loud music and crowds at the squares.

PugMom 11-29-2022 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by airdote22 (Post 2161472)
See my best friend or I just want to pi## off others

dittos. we bring them to the squares so you could have something to complain about online. if no dogs were present, it would be 1 less thing for you to 'discuss' , leaving only little white crosses & ladies with clipboards. if you don't like it, well, you could always stay home, as it is not your decision to make. :spoken:

Ptmckiou 11-29-2022 08:59 AM

My guess is a couple of things. They are going to be gone longer than the dog can hold it’s pee, so they just take the dog with them and don’t have to worry about a timeline. Another reason is laziness. I know that sounds ridiculous. Dogs have to be walked and exercised. If they take the dog with them, it “kills too birds with one stone”. They then don’t have to do any extra walks when they get home, just to exercise their dog, so they just drag him along with them, since they were going to have to go so e where anyways. Thirdly, they prefer the company of their dog, to most humans, so it’s their “companion “.

JSR22 11-29-2022 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 2161665)
dittos. we bring them to the squares so you could have something to complain about online. if no dogs were present, it would be 1 less thing for you to 'discuss' , leaving only little white crosses & ladies with clipboards. if you don't like it, well, you could always stay home, as it is not your decision to make. :spoken:

Agree. TV s pet friendly. Not a great place to live if you dislike animals.

airstreamingypsy 11-29-2022 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by banjobob (Post 2161576)
I agree with this post , pets should not be included in crowded situations , big dogs I agree could be seen but some unthinking pet owners bring small dogs on a leash to crowded venues which in my opinion is begging for your beloved pet to be injured. Most of all leave your dogs at home ! Nobody enjoys your dog.

I enjoy their dogs, I enjoy all dogs. Your reasoning is invalid.

PugMom 11-29-2022 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by bragones (Post 2161647)
My previous dog used to turn the other way when I brought him to a square, so I stopped taking him. My current dog pipes up with excitement/wagging and practically pulls me into a square as we approach, so I take him there for a 1/2 hour or so. You asked why....because it makes us both happy. If its a packed event, I would stay on the outskirts though.

as hard as it is to believe, this pug will sit on the bleachers or chairs in my lap, watching the activity & soaking up any attention given to her by passers-by or children. all of my dogs were highly socialized. even Pete the doberman who enjoyed firework displays on the Ct. river, & driving thru xmas light shows, head out the window, no anxiety ever, waiting for someone to pet him. all my dogs know what a drive-thru window is, too :ho:

PersonOfInterest 11-29-2022 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy1 (Post 2161423)
Saturday I was at the Brownwood Paddock Square with some family and friends for the Christmas tree lighting. The place was absolutely packed. Thousands of people were in the square. The bleacher seating area was full, the chairs were full, the dance floor was full, the blocked off area for vendors around the square was packed with people. So serious question….why do you insist on bringing your very large dog to this ‘packed with people’ event? Now before you accuse me of not liking dogs, I love dogs! I have a dog but would never take him to a crowed event like I was at Saturday and would love to know why you feel you have to bring your dog or dogs to this type of event. If it is a service dog that is one thing but I saw dogs there the size of goat or a small horse and they were not service dogs. I really don’t think dogs care one bit about the ‘lighting of a big Christmas tree’! I have discussed this with a number of people and for the life of us we can’t come up with why people do this. So please enlighten me….why do you bring your dog to a jam packed people event?

I'd like to know WHY people go to events that are that overcrowded. Why do people go to Sports events? Why do people ride Motorcycles?

I don't see a reason for any of those, but obviously others do. Not everybody has you values or your sense of reason. People do what they think is right or in their best interest.

I could just as well ask "Why did you go to a Jam Packed people Event?" I certainly did not go, Why did you?

BrianL99 11-29-2022 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Worldseries27 (Post 2161589)
...

This did not happen in our society till the 90's.
There has to be a showdown in congress. These are people infringing on our rights to the pursuit of happiness. Some constitutional lawyer should get crackin on it.

1 bexley bridge trail


I'm thinking Congress will definitely take this up in the new session. What else do they have to do, that's more important?

Zenmama18 11-29-2022 09:27 AM

We left our medium-sized dog at home. Just too crowded and would be too stressful for her (and us!).

chorndawg 11-29-2022 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy1 (Post 2161423)
Saturday I was at the Brownwood Paddock Square with some family and friends for the Christmas tree lighting. The place was absolutely packed. Thousands of people were in the square. The bleacher seating area was full, the chairs were full, the dance floor was full, the blocked off area for vendors around the square was packed with people. So serious question….why do you insist on bringing your very large dog to this ‘packed with people’ event? Now before you accuse me of not liking dogs, I love dogs! I have a dog but would never take him to a crowed event like I was at Saturday and would love to know why you feel you have to bring your dog or dogs to this type of event. If it is a service dog that is one thing but I saw dogs there the size of goat or a small horse and they were not service dogs. I really don’t think dogs care one bit about the ‘lighting of a big Christmas tree’! I have discussed this with a number of people and for the life of us we can’t come up with why people do this. So please enlighten me….why do you bring your dog to a jam packed people event?

Were there any signs/rules that state "dogs not allowed" at this event? If so, then I can see why your curiosity was piqued. If not, then all I see in your post is your opinion...If it's allowed, what's the issue? You don't like it? Too bad
Wondering how many of these dogs were new to their families? If so, were they merely bringing the dogs to teach them socialization skills in public? Teaching them not to bark, or not to react to people. Not all dog training happens at home.
SMH...Must have been a slow day in the complaint department

ex34449 11-29-2022 10:01 AM

Why?... don't you ask one of the dogs owners? I go out there often with my dog. Never has anyone come up to me and asked for anything other than 'can I pet him'.
Why wouldn't you ask one of them in person instead of knocking them from behind a keyboard?

ex34449 11-29-2022 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2161540)
wonderful, delightful and lovable but they are not humans.

Yeah, thank God they're so much smarter.

Dcadrette 11-29-2022 10:21 AM

Pets are kids
 
people bring their dogs, for the same reason people bring their grandchildren ... gets them out of the house, they get some exercise, they're not at home, playing video games and like my Mom always said when she was throwing me out of the house ... "the fresh air will do you good" ![/QUOTE]

I agree, people look at their animals as their grandchildren, plain and simple. Many times I have to stop and think did I move to a retirement community or a family community. so just think of the animals as their kids or grandchildren. They probably were there for maybe an hour did a walkabout and went home. But I understand the question. Almost every day I have to stop and think of why people do what they do without looking at their surrounding area.

rsibole 11-29-2022 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy1 (Post 2161423)
Saturday I was at the Brownwood Paddock Square with some family and friends for the Christmas tree lighting. The place was absolutely packed. Thousands of people were in the square. The bleacher seating area was full, the chairs were full, the dance floor was full, the blocked off area for vendors around the square was packed with people. So serious question….why do you insist on bringing your very large dog to this ‘packed with people’ event? Now before you accuse me of not liking dogs, I love dogs! I have a dog but would never take him to a crowed event like I was at Saturday and would love to know why you feel you have to bring your dog or dogs to this type of event. If it is a service dog that is one thing but I saw dogs there the size of goat or a small horse and they were not service dogs. I really don’t think dogs care one bit about the ‘lighting of a big Christmas tree’! I have discussed this with a number of people and for the life of us we can’t come up with why people do this. So please enlighten me….why do you bring your dog to a jam packed people event?


Giving human characteristics to animals, inanimate objects or natural phenomena is a human trait called “to anthropomorphize.” This condition is often exhibited by those who also suffer from cognitive dissonance. In psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental stress or discomfort experienced by an individual who holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values at the same time, performs an action that is contradictory to one or more beliefs, ideas or values, or is confronted by new information that conflicts with existing beliefs, ideas, or values. Just thought you might not be aware of these symptoms or recognize them when displayed.

jrzeis@tampabay.rr.com 11-29-2022 10:40 AM

Because service dogs are required to wear a vest that says service dog and most say do not pet

JSR22 11-29-2022 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jrzeis@tampabay.rr.com (Post 2161748)
Because service dogs are required to wear a vest that says service dog and most say do not pet

Service dogs are NOT REQUIRED to wear a vest!

Velvet 11-29-2022 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2161567)
Would you mind having your CAT peruse this week's scheduled entertainment at Sumter Landing Square, so I know which bands my DOG will like?

Very sorry, cat has a difficult time reading…

Byte1 11-29-2022 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2161492)
Were you a dog in a previous life?

How else would you know so much about how dogs feel and what they like? Are all breeds the same? Do all breeds like (& dislike) the same sort of music? Do they all hate 50's & 60's rock? Do some of them like Rap music or Techno?

How do you explain this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSWsGB2emes

I rarely agree with Orange, but this post was right and I agree. I'll tell you how one knows about dogs. Experience and advice from experts. I've had dogs for decades and also trained them for the military. Professionals make it their business to know as much about a subject as possible.
Folks in the Villages are selfish in the manner they treat their pets. Yes, many animals love to ride in a car with their owner. Yes, animals love to go with their masters when they go ANYWHERE. That does not make it right. Some folks are allergic to animals and don't appreciate having your pet forced upon them. Some folks are scared of animals. Some folks do not want your pet sitting in a shopping cart where food is carried. Some animals do not enjoy loud music, large crowds, being stepped on, having a stranger pet them, etc. Most of that should be common sense, but some idiots have total disregard for their pets and just want them as a security blanket. Get a stuffed teddy bear.

Sealvi 11-29-2022 11:02 AM

Service dogs in vests
 
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Originally Posted by Sportsguy1 (Post 2161436)
Because a service dog has a vest on that says ‘service dog’ and none of these had on a vest.

News flash: All service dogs do not wear vests nor is there a requirement that mandates a service dog wearing a vest.

airstreamingypsy 11-29-2022 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy1 (Post 2161423)
So please enlighten me….why do you bring your dog to a jam packed people event?

I'll give you the answer you're looking for. The answer is.... <drum roll> because I want to. (Actually I didn't bring my dog, I didn't even go, but I think I speak for the people who did)

Drakeswood 11-29-2022 11:21 AM

Why dogs of any size? Animals get anxious too. Of course I am biased b/c epi pens are expensive for folks like me with allergies. As the dog owners say “my rights”…but treading on mine as well!

JMintzer 11-29-2022 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2161484)
I the early days of The Internet people who jumped on posters for making spelling or grammar errors were called "Trolls"- Congratulations

No, a spelling/gramma error is using "their" instead of "they're" or "there"...

Asking someone typing something that isn't even close to a word (which can happen if you use the "don't look" typing method and your fingers are out of place) is a simple request for clarification...

JMintzer 11-29-2022 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2161540)
I have experienced dogs as pets since I was born. They are dogs, wonderful, delightful and lovable but they are not humans.

True... They are better than many humans... :laugh:

JMintzer 11-29-2022 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Travelhunter123 (Post 2161615)
Another vote for Americas friendliest hometown

No less friendly than those who think they can psychoanalyze the problems of people who enjoy having their pets around...

JMintzer 11-29-2022 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by defrey12 (Post 2161626)
THIS IS THE NOT QUESTION! The question is WHY do YOU bring them to 1) a place it DOES NOT WANT TO BE and 2) a place where others are NOT appreciative of YOUR animals! Why on earth these places allow animals is another discussion…a dog in a stroller? The World has gone bat*^%# crazy!

There are places NO ONE wants to see a dog. Some people just don't like them...

Not my problem...

And who are you to say what someone's dog does or doesn't like?

And strollers?

Dogs age, just like people. Those strollers can be like wheelchairs for them. If one is in a wheelchair, should they just be left at home? Especially if it's crowded?

JMintzer 11-29-2022 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Larchap49 (Post 2161627)
If you are seriously comparing your wife and kids with your dogs you sir need professional help and I don't mean a support dog.

Where's the "America's Friendliest Hometown" guy?

Oh, right... He agrees with this, so it's okay...

JMintzer 11-29-2022 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by NoMo50 (Post 2161636)
You can lock your wife and your dog in the trunk of your car, and come back 4 hours later. Only the dog will be glad to see you!

I was just going to post that! :beer3:

JMintzer 11-29-2022 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jparsoneau@aol.com (Post 2161640)
Here we go about the dogs again. First of dogs are allowed at the squares. And no I would not take my dog to a large crowd or a large event and no I do not take my dog everywhere with me, but I do take my dog out with me sometimes. And all of who do not like dogs and like to complain about dogs. why did you move here to The Villages that is pet friendly?
And not every pet owner is a good pet owner. We all know that. But there are people who like the wine hear about pets, no matter what they are good or bad or welcome or not. My suggestion is you should move out of the villages if you’re not pet friendly, or maybe go start your own village. But to move into a place that is pet friendly and bitch about pets is stupid. But I can only imagine that’s not the only thing you guys complain about.

:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

JMintzer 11-29-2022 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Daxdog (Post 2161659)
Why do you bring kids, especially babies in strollers, they don’t care!

They typically fall asleep...

We've brought our dog to the square on nights they've had loud bands.

We park right up against the square, listen to the music and out dog falls asleep between us...

Just like my kids did at outdoor concerts when they were babies...

JMintzer 11-29-2022 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Ptmckiou (Post 2161667)
My guess is a couple of things. They are going to be gone longer than the dog can hold it’s pee, so they just take the dog with them and don’t have to worry about a timeline. Another reason is laziness. I know that sounds ridiculous. Dogs have to be walked and exercised. If they take the dog with them, it “kills too birds with one stone”. They then don’t have to do any extra walks when they get home, just to exercise their dog, so they just drag him along with them, since they were going to have to go so e where anyways. Thirdly, they prefer the company of their dog, to most humans, so it’s their “companion “.

You guessed wrong...

JMintzer 11-29-2022 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rsibole (Post 2161746)
Giving human characteristics to animals, inanimate objects or natural phenomena is a human trait called “to anthropomorphize.” This condition is often exhibited by those who also suffer from cognitive dissonance. In psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental stress or discomfort experienced by an individual who holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values at the same time, performs an action that is contradictory to one or more beliefs, ideas or values, or is confronted by new information that conflicts with existing beliefs, ideas, or values. Just thought you might not be aware of these symptoms or recognize them when displayed.

Thanks for the "WebMD" diagnosis, Dr Google...

JMintzer 11-29-2022 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jrzeis@tampabay.rr.com (Post 2161748)
Because service dogs are required to wear a vest that says service dog and most say do not pet

Tell me you didn't read the thread without telling me you didn't reads the thread...


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