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Mumbles 04-05-2020 01:40 PM

Umm
 
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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1740447)
All that good protection is meaningless if someone sneezes 6 feet in front of you or behind you or to the left or right of you assuming no one is "encroaching" 2-3 feet away and the wind is blowing in your direction unless you plan on gargling or snorting the bleach. Remember, MANY people are Asymptomatic or PREsymptomatic. You never know where you "friends" may have been and picked up something unless you trace their movement (as in travel/shopping) history over the last 5 or 6 days before "the sneeze." Unless you are wearing a medical grade mask you could be SOL.

Oh, and glasses to cover the eye membranes which love to pick up things on their own.

mjpuleo 04-05-2020 01:47 PM

I just don't get it, what is golf like an addiction--you can't live without it???? Well, be careful because you may not be able to live WITH IT if you continue playing. Be safe and stay home.

TJLAMPHERE 04-05-2020 02:00 PM

New Golf Payment Procedure
 
So, no phone number was listed to call in and do the $ 20 monthly payment for Exec Trail Fee. It said you get the phone number from the Starter Shack??? Why wasn't a phone number listed in the Release from the folks overseeing this process???

Mumbles 04-05-2020 02:09 PM

Hmm
 
"With great respect, just because people are following the law does not mean they are safe, or that they aren't spreading this virus. Intelligent experts are telling us the only way to contain the spread is to STAY AWAY FROM OTHER PEOPLE."

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1740512)
And that is what people who participate in the list of approved activities are doing---social distancing---you DO NOT need to hide under your bed to stay away from people[/COLOR]



I see a few points to ponder here: 1) The OP is saying, IMHO, that there are ways to still be with people without blindly following advice. If you do follow the advice that the governor said (regardless of where the advice originally came from), and you think you understand that golfing, for example, MIGHT be an occasion where one COULD fall prey to the virus, you MAY choose not to golf. That would be your own personal choice. 2) The responder in green whom I quoted, may not like to have his/her choice of activity questioned. One ought to allow for free choice NO MATTER WHAT a person chooses to do. BUT, if it ends up affecting others terribly, that person will be answering...at a later time... to Someone who does know how all people will get affected. 3) Telling someone not to confront them with their differing opinion [ and it's just that: Opinion] is non-productive.

Let's all remember that there are so FEW things in life that humans have control over, we ought not believe we can control the virus.
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Mumbles 04-05-2020 02:19 PM

Sorry Maxsan
 
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Originally Posted by Maxsan (Post 1740526)
So many people with so much knowledge. No golf, then don’t go to a grocery store, don’t go for a cart ride, don’t walk down the street, don’t pump gas, don’t bike ride, don’t go to a doctors office, don’t receive packages, don’t pick up your mail, don’t breathe! Let’s face facts, we don’t really know how this disease is carried....by sneezing, by touch, by simply breathing. We don’t know how to treat, we can only treat the symptoms and wait to see if the body can fight it off.

This is what "they " call reductio ad absurdum. That means lumping all examples into one giant bunch...AS IF they are all equally true. In effect, that makes a person's argument ridiculous (able to be ridiculed, made fun of, placed below other more meaningful ideas.) Plus it is usually meant to STOP discussion dead in its tracks.

Mumbles 04-05-2020 02:26 PM

Umm
 
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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1740716)
I know of three doctors that are playing golf once a week.......I only mention that because not all doctors agree on much of what's going on. Believe what makes you happy and keeps you safe. Now, of course, you can start the replies of those "hacks" that call themselves doctors or how those doctors up north would never play golf during this thing. :)

Umm, Pennsylvania is Up North.

Mikeod 04-05-2020 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mumbles (Post 1740923)
Wonder if, by quirk of fate, you picked up a golf ball with a sanitizer sheet and, while doing that, the virus--which can become aerosolized , is released into the air in front of you and it STILL gets to your face. There are so many possibilities of running into this or any virus, really, that -- if you really like living-- one would not even "think" of taking a chance.:ohdear:

Wow. Any virus? Even those we have vaccines for? First, to be aerosolized, there has to be more impetus than placing a cloth over the ball, and the cloth is dripping with bleach.

Please. Outside activities have been approved with reasonable restrictions by many epidemiologists currently working this pandemic. I am following all the recommendations promulgated by medical and governmental officials. If you wish to go beyond, that is your prerogative. I am inside my home except for groceries and I am restricting my golf to a small circle of friends who are also following those guidelines.

FrankH 04-05-2020 02:46 PM

[QUOTE=dougjb;1740498]There are many who share the blame if one is to assign blame to a natural event. Our great intelligence community, if it had not been eviscerated under the current administration, could very well have identified the issue early on. Just another missed opportunity.

As for Chinese wet markets, why not visit one of our slaughterhouses. I think the experience might very well turn the visitor into a vegetarian.

Let's just not assign blame until we look in the mirror and ask ourselves if we or our government did all that was possible. When this event passes, we might be well served by an investigatory commission to see where not only others failed, but where we failed.[/QUOTE

LMAO. In his first paragraph Doug blames "the current administration" then in his last paragraph he says "Let's not assign blame..." Keep your politics off this forum.

rbrooks817 04-05-2020 02:46 PM

There is plenty of blame to go around, if you think our country was quick to respond you definitely do not have the facts.

HMLRHT1 04-05-2020 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1740494)
The governor has issued a statewide stay at home order that is very specific concerning which businesses may stay open and which activities are permitted. This carries force of law and should be obeyed by all citizens.

Those people who go to the grocery store or pharmacy, and those people who go cycling, golfing, walking and fishing are FOLLOWING THE LAW---Get off their cases!

There appears to be a subset of Villagers who are separating themselves into some kind of uber-class coronavirus crusaders. They are EXCEEDING the requirements of the executive order by limiting their activity beyond the scope of the order, whether out of paranoia or ignorance, while some are going around and taking photos of their neighbors who might be violating the order.

It's perfectly fine to stay home, but it doesn't make you MORE law abiding, compassionate, caring and smarter than those that are also following the law. And it certainly doesn't entitle you to call those people idiots, selfish or entitled

The governor made the law. He is no medical expert like Dr Fauci is. If the governor would follow Dr Fauci’s advice there would be no extra activities such as golf or gathering at churches. So you can follow the letter of the law but then who do you blame if you come down with the virus? The government? Yourself? Do what you want but if you get the virus I wish you well and hope it does not become too serious for you. It’s not the flu. Good luck to you.

golfing eagles 04-05-2020 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HMLRHT1 (Post 1740988)
The governor made the law. He is no medical expert like Dr Fauci is. If the governor would follow Dr Fauci’s advice there would be no extra activities such as golf or gathering at churches. So you can follow the letter of the law but then who do you blame if you come down with the virus? The government? Yourself? Do what you want but if you get the virus I wish you well and hope it does not become too serious for you. It’s not the flu. Good luck to you.

I don't recall Tony Fauci addressing the issue of golf, but he might have.

The overwhelming majority of states with stay at home orders allow golf. And btw, I would blame the virus.

Topspinmo 04-05-2020 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1741008)
I don't recall Tony Fauci addressing the issue of golf, but he might have.

The overwhelming majority of states with stay at home orders allow golf. And btw, I would blame the virus.


Well, I would blame the Chinese then the people who traveled and brought it here. Why blame the victim? They get punished enough.

rustyp 04-05-2020 05:02 PM

Picking on no individual - will blaming somebody save your life. Driving the car out of the rear view mirror is a sure way of you causing an accident.

Challenger 04-05-2020 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1741017)
Picking on no individual - will blaming somebody save your life. Driving the car out of the rear view mirror is a sure way of you causing an accident.

We must drive by looking back. "those who do not learn from history, are doomed to relive it" Santayna

ALadysMom 04-05-2020 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by arbajeda (Post 1740622)
You could get hit by lightning. You could be swallowed up in a sinkhole. An idiot golfer could kill you with an errant drive. Your golf cart could explode. God could just say "Come see me." Like Ben Franklin said, the only sure things are death and taxes. If you're willing to live your life in fear of infinitesimal chances of getting the virus, then do so. Reasonable precautions will also protect you. When playing, don't touch anything not yours, like the ball washers. After playing, leave everything in the cart but your clothes and you. When inside, put your clothes in the hamper and wash your face and hands (or shower if you feel the need).

Hmmm...Do your clothes magically wash themselves or are you potentially exposing your laundress?

rustyp 04-05-2020 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Challenger (Post 1741035)
We must drive by looking back. "those who do not learn from history, are doomed to relive it" Santayna

There is nothing wrong with learning from an autopsy - but forward thinking in a crisis until problem solved makes much more sense. Then it's time for lessons learned for future prevention.

mpk352 04-05-2020 06:54 PM

AMEN, Brother, AMEN!

Scudder 04-07-2020 09:50 AM

Is your name Tommy Gainey?

coffeebean 04-09-2020 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Florida Pine (Post 1740802)
We can do without the vulgar remarks. Very inappropriate.

Aw, come on. Where is your sense of humor? Not inappropriate at all. Just some fun.

coffeebean 04-09-2020 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hospes444 (Post 1740805)
Why is anyone still playing golf!! The healthcare workers are pleading with folks to stay home. They are literally putting their lives on the line to treat the very sick, and so many of you can't even stay off the golf course.
Shameful and selfish
It is not only you that is affected if you should become ill.
This Florida governor is going to cause the entire countries ability to heal to be delayed, due to his inadequacies. All the kids at spring break, and all the snowbirds at the Villages will be going home to other parts of the country and this illness will go on and on for months because of tens of thousands of thoughtless people

I've been disappointed in DeSantis ever since he didn't close all beaches in the state early on. We have a very wishy washy governor.

coffeebean 04-09-2020 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mumbles (Post 1740923)
Wonder if, by quirk of fate, you picked up a golf ball with a sanitizer sheet and, while doing that, the virus--which can become aerosolized , is released into the air in front of you and it STILL gets to your face. There are so many possibilities of running into this or any virus, really, that -- if you really like living-- one would not even "think" of taking a chance.:ohdear:

I haven't heard about this happening. If I am reading this correctly, you are saying that the virus which is on a surface can become airborne if it is disturbed? Can this really happen? Where did you hear or read about this? By any chance, do you have a link?

JoMar 04-09-2020 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1743538)
I've been disappointed in DeSantis ever since he didn't close all beaches in the state early on. We have a very wishy washy governor.

Maybe, but he's not alone. Cuomo wanted everything to sop yet the subways and public transportation are open. They are curtailing service because their front line workers are down with 19. Their ridership is 87% of last year. Yet they continue to run. I find it somewhat amusing that when government tries to direct behavior they are chastised, then when the don't they are chastised. I view his delay was because he had faith in people, only when they proved his faith was misplaced did he acted. Same here, pools and rec centers and recreational facilities were mostly open until we proved that we could not be trusted to follow guidance....then the guidance had to become a dictate. I won't discuss golf because closing golf would also mean the walking trails, bike rides, MMP's would also need to be closed as they have a higher possibility of spread than any golf course. Also, only 16 States have closed courses, just in case anyone thinks we are an island.


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