Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
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Is the Developer making money? Sure he is that's why he's in business.Did he build a GREAT place to live ? Sure he did. They're trying to bring as many new places as they can into TV. As for Golf I don't use it. Pickleball not in many years after I blew the knee out. Rec centers maybe twice a year. Pool when we have company or HOT days and we want to cool off. All these items are here and they are available IF you wish to use them. I know I pay for them BUT I moved here because of what's here IF we wanted to use them. I've made MANY friends here, have great memories & a lot of fun. Coming from Long Island this place is a bargain and in a hell of a lot better condition then what Long Island was and how much money did the Politicians cost us us ? I lost cars and trucks in the pot holes up north. My taxes were more then double, my house is bigger down here, the Community is far superior to Long Island, it's less crowded for sure. That's why we chose to live here, my regret is we didn't do it when we first retired and waited till 2009. That's my story and I'm sticking ti it.
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When one sees the finished product, in this case, attractive villages, nice homes, and wealth beyond imagination, it's easy for folks to think that it was a simple, easy task to get there, with guaranteed success, and anyone could have done it. Folks who think like this look past the risks involved in land development, and the hard work, and imagination that went into it from the beginning, before money was rolling in, and before success was "guaranteed".
Last winter my golfing group took a trip up to Juliette Falls. I don't know all of the specifics, but there are lots of empty lots up there. In fact we were told that the clubhouse was once a big home that wound up in foreclosure and the golf course management bought it up. As we drove around the place I thought about how this could have happened to the Morses, but it didn't. Their plan was better, or their execution was better, or something, but, to me it illustrated that their success was not always "guaranteed"...they pulled it off, and not everyone can do that. Looking at the end product of success and wealth, it's easy for some to feel jealous of someone else's success. |
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Very well said. I wish i could have verbalized it so well in a few threads i participated in about 'the golf course conditions" It was if some thought the developer was under a personal attack and needed to be protected by his/her own personal national guard. Again...you've summarized very well...in my opinion |
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And some of the dog parks in the Villages leave a lot to be desired. Even if The Villages Daily Sun hypes them up quite a bit. |
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Many of these debates or attacks or defenses are caused by whether the reader or writer is a positive or negative person, whether they are realistic in their expectations of most situations, and whether they are truly defining the problem accurately. That said, some people are very unrealistic in their expectations and are quick to blame the Morse enterprise for just about everything. They expect the Morse enterprise to protect them from sinkholes, and rising costs and things far beyond their control, like the level of health care in Florida. Some truly do not understand the way supply and demand functions and expect an awful lot for not much money and expect businesses to appear because they want them to appear. They are quick to put blame where there is none and continue to recycle rumors and conspiracy theories and say that the price of rent of commercial properties is too high without investigating and comparing like systems in other parts of the country and the world. There are other people who are too trusting of the developer and their business associates and believe they can do no wrong. There are those who see a great possibility that we could be taken advantage of and gouged and want to have a government system that is entirely run on votes in the traditional way. There are those that see that "the family" is changing roles and strengths and are not the same people with the same jobs that they used to have. They are worried about human frailties and human mistakes by the humans behind the curtain. It is indeed a problem. And people will continue addressing it as they have done all of the problems before in their life.
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It seems to me that the developers have pretty much followed the philosophy of nation builder Lee Kuan Yew who led Singapore through its incredible development. Charlie Munger recently paraphrased Lee Kuan Yew. “Figure out what works and do it.”
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Just sayin... |
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I do find the loyalty expressed by some people idealistic. Yes, TV is a beautiful, a well thought out community. But “The Developer” gets compensated very well for it. I don’t know any of the family personally so do they deserve admiration or loyalty? I don’t know. Mr Schwartz, on the other, my relatives knew him and yes he did deserve respect. He had character.
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Actually, my impression was, he was a simple man from a nondescript background. But he did have smarts, and probably luck... and character.
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If you have the pleasure of speaking to an old-time Villages' employee who worked here when Mr. Schwartz was alive, they will tell you he was a kind and personable man. He would go to his pool on the historic side and interact with the residents. Employees knew him and he knew them by name. You will probably never hear a negative word about him. Mr. Schwartz was visible. He was not secluded in an unknown office location somewhere with no contact with the outside Villages world. Sadly, there no longer is a personal touch here. TV has become too large and the Morse family is concentrating more on development than being visible. The Villages today is a business and is run like one. While we all benefit from all the terrific things which are offered, we are paying for these things which is not unlike living in any other PUD anywhere else. |
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The Villages is definitely a business. And a successful one. We do choose to live here and pay for the things we enjoy. Harold Schwartz was a stereotypical salesman. Gary Morse was a good businessman and not in most ways interested in public acclaim. Now we have some in the next generation who take after Sharon Morse and are more on stage; Megan Boone, her granddaughter from Black List fame and the kids who are running the Sharon too. Some people who live here have been involved in business in their past and may be more interested to see a good business model succeed. Some who had been educators or who worked for the government and have not been involved with business may not be as interested. It takes all kinds to make a world. No one is forced, coerced or oversold to live here. Once we are here it grows on some of us more than others.
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It is better to laugh than to cry. Last edited by graciegirl; 05-25-2019 at 10:53 AM. |
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The negativity is not directed at the Developers/TV. It's directed at the children of the Developers. It is believed by many that the current administration does not have The Villages residents best interests at heart.
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