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Golfingnut 11-27-2012 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 586085)
Wow! I apparently made some bad assumptions. I believed that members read and postėd on TOTV to share views, ideas and experiences living in TV such as conditions of golf courses, restaturants medical providers, etc.

Also confusing for me is the definition of whinning or whinners vis a vis legitimate complaints or candid and realistic comments. It seems better to one's interest to refrain from any comments, irrespective of their validity that even one person would deem whinning. Because as the man in the movie once said "You can't handle the truth.

In my mind TOTV serves a very useful purpose and I don't beleive that many members spend all day posting. However if there ae some that do well what is wrong with that if this is where they find contentment?

I think I see your point, and if I do, then I would like to add that at least for me, I first try to see the positive side of things rather than jump on the negative right away. No place is perfect, but for my wife and I, The Villages is the closest to perfect we have found and trust me when I say, We have looked from coast to coast.

eweissenbach 11-27-2012 05:13 PM

We probably devote too much time and attention to the very few flame throwers like mack. The VAST majority of TOTV posters try to give good information and offer mostly positive opinions. Are there a few people who whine more than necessary - sure; are there people with legitimate complaints - sure. Are there bad neighbors who make it their business to pry into others business - sure; are there legitimate reasons to report violations - sure. One thing we probably do to excess is to defend the site, the Villages, and the Villagers when we feel attacked personally, or by proxy. It may be argued that this post is an example, and I'll accept that.

graciegirl 11-27-2012 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 586141)
We probably devote too much time and attention to the very few flame throwers like mack. The VAST majority of TOTV posters try to give good information and offer mostly positive opinions. Are there a few people who whine more than necessary - sure; are there people with legitimate complaints - sure. Are there bad neighbors who make it their business to pry into others business - sure; are there legitimate reasons to report violations - sure. One thing we probably do to excess is to defend the site, the Villages, and the Villagers when we feel attacked personally, or by proxy. It may be argued that this post is an example, and I'll accept that.

You can defend us here anytime, coach. Your posts are reasonable and kind.

I may not always agree with you but I never find you disagreeable.

When I see that you have posted, I know to expect a considered and fair and often funny post.

I wish that the world would be peopled with far more like you.

eweissenbach 11-27-2012 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 586148)
You can defend us here anytime, coach. Your posts are reasonable and kind.

I may not always agree with you but I never find you disagreeable.

When I see that you have posted, I know to expect a considered and fair and often funny post.

I wish that the world would be peopled with far more like you.

WHAT! You don't always agree with me???? What the heck is wrong with you????

Patty55 11-27-2012 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mack184 (Post 585774)
Kvetching is jewish for the word that rhymes with ditch. I know there are jews in Ohio, I knew a number of them when I worked in Toledo.

Yep, I knew a Jew in Cleveland, but he died. Wonder if THEY sent another one in to replace him.

Anyone else remember Fernwood Tonight? I loved that show.

Cantwaittoarrive 11-27-2012 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 586123)
I think I see your point, and if I do, then I would like to add that at least for me, I first try to see the positive side of things rather than jump on the negative right away. No place is perfect, but for my wife and I, The Villages is the closest to perfect we have found and trust me when I say, We have looked from coast to coast.

:agree:

shcisamax 11-27-2012 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 586085)
Wow! I apparently made some bad assumptions. I believed that members read and postėd on TOTV to share views, ideas and experiences living in TV such as conditions of golf courses, restaturants medical providers, etc.

Also confusing for me is the definition of whinning or whinners vis a vis legitimate complaints or candid and realistic comments. It seems better to one's interest to refrain from any comments, irrespective of their validity that even one person would deem whinning. Because as the man in the movie once said "You can't handle the truth.

In my mind TOTV serves a very useful purpose and I don't beleive that many members spend all day posting. However if there ae some that do well what is wrong with that if this is where they find contentment?

Yes people do post ideas and experiences and conditions of golf courses, restaurants and medical providers. That really is the best of TOTV and what it is most successful at...being information central. My point is to make a generalization of what TV people are about based upon the small fraction of people who are on TOTV is a huge disservice to reality. Furthermore, my statement that some of those who spend their day on the computer rather than out and about enjoying all the social interaction TV has to offer is, of course, their prerogative and agreed it is the exception versus the rule.

2BNTV 11-27-2012 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 586152)
Yep, I knew a Jew in Cleveland, but he died. Wonder if THEY sent another one in to replace him.

Anyone else remember Fernwood Tonight? I loved that show.

:1rotfl:

2BNTV 11-27-2012 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 586141)
We probably devote too much time and attention to the very few flame throwers like mack. The VAST majority of TOTV posters try to give good information and offer mostly positive opinions. Are there a few people who whine more than necessary - sure; are there people with legitimate complaints - sure. Are there bad neighbors who make it their business to pry into others business - sure; are there legitimate reasons to report violations - sure. One thing we probably do to excess is to defend the site, the Villages, and the Villagers when we feel attacked personally, or by proxy. It may be argued that this post is an example, and I'll accept that.

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 586148)
You can defend us here anytime, coach. Your posts are reasonable and kind.

I may not always agree with you but I never find you disagreeable.

When I see that you have posted, I know to expect a considered and fair and often funny post.

I wish that the world would be peopled with far more like you.

I agree with you too Ed. Must be something wrong with me too!!!! LOL

Villages Kahuna 11-29-2012 06:35 PM

Wow!
 
I never knew there was so much wrong here. When people ask me what I like best and least about TV, I always answer that I'd have a difficult time creating either list. If I was limited to three "good things", it'd be tough because there are a dozen things I like which would all be competing for the top three. On the "don't like" list, I'd also have a tough time because there's virtually nothing I don't like about living here

Oh...maybe the traffic and the wait in restaurants during high season. Big deal huh, if that's my biggest complaint.

ydnar9 11-30-2012 11:36 AM

Do Your Own Research
 
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Originally Posted by LynnDeb (Post 584626)
Why are people selling in TV?

We stayed in the Villages 3 different times for a month and loved it. We went to many open houses, manufactured and resale site built homes. After losing my job in Michigan because of the results of NAFTA, now being less expensive for corporations to move out of the country to do their manufacturing and then export the goods to the U.S., they moved our company out of the U.S. NAFTA being great for the corporations and their bottom line, but bad for the people that work there. Well that left me in a earlier than expected fixed income. We decided to move to Florida. We didn't buy in the Villages because the home we bought in The Plantation would have been another 60% in the Villages, and for what we paid for it we would have had to buy a manufactured home in the Villages. So that's the reason we did not buy there. Not sure if we did the right thing or not at this point, sure love the Villages and the golf cart access to everything.
No offense to anyone with a manufactured home there. VERY beautiful area where they are located, I just didn't think they would be a good investment and how long can you still get insurance on them as they get older? Each to their own I guess. Just do lots of research before buying anywhere.

justjim 11-30-2012 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ydnar9 (Post 587673)
We stayed in the Villages 3 different times for a month and loved it. We went to many open houses, manufactured and resale site built homes. After losing my job in Michigan because of the results of NAFTA, now being less expensive for corporations to move out of the country to do their manufacturing and then export the goods to the U.S., they moved our company out of the U.S. NAFTA being great for the corporations and their bottom line, but bad for the people that work there. Well that left me in a earlier than expected fixed income. We decided to move to Florida. We didn't buy in the Villages because the home we bought in The Plantation would have been another 60% in the Villages, and for what we paid for it we would have had to buy a manufactured home in the Villages. So that's the reason we did not buy there. Not sure if we did the right thing or not at this point, sure love the Villages and the golf cart access to everything.
No offense to anyone with a manufactured home there. VERY beautiful area where they are located, I just didn't think they would be a good investment and how long can you still get insurance on them as they get older? Each to their own I guess. Just do lots of research before buying anywhere.

:posting: Nice post----sounds like you really liked TV but for personal and economic reasons chose the Plantation. I know your community well and it too is a very nice retirement community. Main difference is the access to many amenities by golf cart and restaurants, shopping, health care, etc. without driving several miles in your car to those amenities and services.

My educated guess is that not many homes in TV are for sale for economic reasons. By the way, there are many homes for sale in the Plantation too. For some Retirees it is a matter of personal choice as to how much of there incomes they choose to spend on housing. I have observed that a number of people who live in (manufacture homes for example) could well afford to live in 300k or 400k homes but choose not to do so by choice. In TV there is something (priced homes) for everyone. I know you can buy homes in the Plantation and several other area retirement communities priced at less per square foot but without the conveniences of TV. There is an old' southern saying that applies here, "if you want to dance, you have to pay the fiddler.".

i trust you and other area residents continue to drive up to TV and spend lots of $$$$ to help our local economy and maybe we can expand our menu of Department stores, restaurants and services.

Ripcord13 11-30-2012 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mack184 (Post 585516)
Actually it's much truer that either of you think, or want to think.

Why do you ask? OK..you didn't ask but I'll tell you anyway. I've spent decades in the radio business and over the years I have become very skilled at reading monthly & quarterly radio ratings reports. Radio & TV ratings and other polling services use the same method to obtain their results. They sample a small cross-section of a particular universe and then project the responses against the whole of that particular universe. (city, state, nation)For example in our recent election..Most polling companies said that the race would be very close. (It was.) They also said that Pres. Obama would get a 2nd term. (He did.) There were a couple polls that were way out in either direction but they were ultimately discounted and found to be incorrect. Like most things, the answer is found somewhere in the middle.

I came to TOTV quite by accident. I was doing a Google search about something I wanted to know about TV and up popped TOTV. While it did not answer my question, I thought that it would be an interesting place to learn about things & people here. I have mentioned before, but in the interest of full disclosure I will mention it again. We did not come here to retire, (we are still working) but so that my wife could assist her parents as they got older.

While I thought it might be interesting to live in TV my wife hates it. So we would be looking at other communities as well. I came to TOTV as somebody who was somewhat disposed to living here, and was hoping to maybe find some items that might sway my wife's thinking about things. I was NOT a Kool-Aid drinker, so in many ways I needed to be convinced.

Since I have discovered TOTV I had read every single comment on every single thread. There are some who I'm sure think I comment too much, but in truth, I comment very little. After reading all of these threads for a number of months I have used the same method as radio ratings and polling companies do to reach my results.

While it is true that the majority of the 90,000 Villages residents do not actively comment on TOTV, there is indeed a workable cross-section of residents participating here. After doing the reading here is what I have learned from this...

Residing in TV are a majority of smug, self-important people who think that their sewage is scentless because THEY live in TV and YOU do not. There is a very definate pecking order in TV..Those whom you call "Frogs" who live here year-round and the only time they are ever leaving is when the big black station wagon hauls you to the junkyard. Their attitude is that they are FAR superior to everyone else who lives in TV. Then come the "Snowbirds". People who own homes here, but only come during the winter or for vacation periods. As judged by the first group they are OK, but they are definately NOT one of "them". And finally comes those who dare to show up in the winter and pay rent. You despise them. Anything that happens between December & April that disturbs your nirvana can be blamed on them.

Overall the majority of TV residents are a collection of whining, grumbling, kvetching old people who despite having 1800 clubs & activities and 36 or more golf courses, their biggest activity is to complain about virtually everything. You whine about your neighbors who who walk their dogs to the post office boxes because the poor pooch might inconveniently relieve himself along the way. You whine about your neighbors who put some sort of decorative pot or trinket on THEIR garden or front steps. You whine about the possibility of the various unwashed hordes who just might invade your nirvana in Brownwood or other places. Never mind that these are open public places & private businesses. You carefully veil your racism in language which any person with a brain can figure out in seconds. I could write on and on about what I have learned. I have also learned that you have been building lots of churches. Either you're just interested in building buildings or you become deaf once you enter the building.

While TOTV is a place for residents to communicate, it is also a place where people come to LEARN about TV. If you are not already convinced that TV is nirvana or God's Little Green Acre then taking the time to really read this forum will very much likely convince you that it is not.

I came here looking for information and to be convinced. I have come away with the impression that the majority of people (but not all) here are snide, two-faced and whiny.

I have a great deal of admiration for the Morse family. I don't know them, but admire their vision and their hard work to put such a place together. I don't know if they got tired of playing with their Department-56 village under the Christmas tree and decided to build a real one for themselves or what, but they are geniuses. I know that they are very, very careful in their marketing. With that in mind, I'm surprised that they allow TOTV. It does a wonderful job of talking people OUT of coming to TV.

Again..this is what TOTV has taught ME. And speaking only for ME..What I have learned is that TV is a city. Just like any other city. It is not nirvana. While it's a nice place, many cities are nice places and many people like where they live. Heck..even Toldeo was loved by Max Klinger. But the hype of TV being "Florida's Friendliest Hometown" is a lie. When you look at it from a distance it seems unbelieveable, almost fantastic, but up close, the reality is a lot more gritty & not all that pretty.

:BigApplause:

graciegirl 11-30-2012 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ripcord13 (Post 587839)
:BigApplause:

I just want to stand up and say I don't agree with you agreeing with someone who is putting down my home town, especially since Mack has barely been here four months and lives in Stonecrest..

There are so many wonderful things about this place and people. Today I played golf with a group of eight girls who I spend each Friday with doing something, golfing or cards or board games. They are funny and bright and quick to laugh and to hug. We have supported each other through several biggies and celebrated happy occasions frequently.

They are my friends but I know there are thousands like them here. It is part of aging that brings the cream to the top and most of us have been there and done that and chose this place to live.

I think when Mack settles in he will see the goodness that exists here among us seniors. There is no place like it in the world.

And no finer people.

Remember on this forum and everywhere it is the noisy that stand out. Most of us go quietly along celebrating the small things and enjoying the moments of our lives.

justjim 11-30-2012 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 587844)
I just want to stand up and say I don't agree with you agreeing with someone who is putting down my home town, especially since Mack has barely been here four months.

There are so many wonderful things about this place and people. Today I played golf with a group of eight girls who I spend each Friday with doing something, golfing or cards or board games. They are funny and bright and quick to laugh and to hug. We have supported each other through several biggies and celebrated happy occasions frequently.

They are my friends but I know there are thousands like them here. It is part of aging that brings the cream to the top and most of us have been there and done that and chose this place to live.

I think when Mack settles in he will see the goodness that exists here among us seniors. There is no place like it in the world.

And no finer people.

Remember on this forum and everywhere it is the noisy that stand out. Most of us go quietly along celebrating the small things and enjoying the moments of our lives.

:posting: Nice post Gracie.


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