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Bogie Shooter 10-24-2021 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 2020882)
Bad news hurts YOUR property values.

Continued bloviating about bad news on TOTV doesn’t help either.

bgamble3 10-24-2021 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2020647)
The Sun Times has no interest in reporting crimes

The Villages Daily Sun Newspaper reports facts and the actual news. Not speculation. Great newspaper with great reporters, stories and information. You should subscribe......

DAVES 10-24-2021 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom1916 (Post 2020597)
The other day (10/21) I witnessed what I thought looked like a stand-off in Charlotte area around Pleasant View Place , I would say there were more than 20 + Police SUV's a few Fire / Rescue vehicles and Officers with Assault rifles ,Bullet proof shields and bullet proof jackets walking toward a home, I was told there was a person with a gun and I left, I saw or heard nothing on the news or in the Villages news??? what else don't we know about? subjective news??

People tend to write their own stories. "I was told there was a person with a gun." That does not mean there was a person with a gun. IF, the report was that there was a person with a gun atypical police response is over whelming response. The reason is one,"criminal," might chose to fight it out with on or two cops. When, they see 20 plus
unless they are simply crazy they give up-that is the goal not executing criminals on the streets.

Curtisbwp 10-24-2021 11:11 AM

Image! High or violent crimes are NOT conducive to promoting a friendly village

DAVES 10-24-2021 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 2020887)
It must have been reported somewhere, as I knew about it. Some guy alone in his house who called 911 and said he was thinking of shooting himself. I don’t think it’s a crime to think about doing that or even to seek help by telling a 911 dispatcher. He put the gun down and got help eventually. The show of force was in my opinion unnecessary and terrifying, but if I might say so, despite my great respect for the police, there are some who always imagined SWAT-type approaches and are sad to find that they have extremely few opportunities in The Villages to put on a bullet-proof vest and pull out their weapons.

Hum a dose of reality. I find it sad and interesting how easy it is for people to support their own bias. Perhaps, how difficult it is for me to suppress mine.

As posted by me when they talk about a gun the police resort to overwhelming force.
Assuming a criminal. They might try to take on one or two cops. Assuming the number in the original post is correct 20, no criminal other than in movies is going to take on 20 cops.

Assuming it was a suicide attempt. Most suicide attempts are a call for help. It is actually illegal to kill yourself. The irony, if you are successful what are they to do.
Kill you for attempting to kill yourself?

DAVES 10-24-2021 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Escape Artist (Post 2020915)
I agree. I'm new to TV and I would like to know what's going on here, the good and the bad. However, as it continues to expand, I don't know if I need to know every minor incident or misdemeanor that takes place on the other side of TV.

However, more serious crimes involving firearms/weapons or of a violent nature such as assaults, armed robbery, etc. should be reported through some sort of news outlet. In a community of primarily seniors that's just common sense.

I'm not defending anyone. More serious crimes is of course a matter of opinion. Reading these posts, many posters, including me, do not know what reality is or was.

One post stated it was a suicide attempt.

I don't want to own one but you can purchase a police band radio.

HIgolfers 10-24-2021 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bgamble3 (Post 2020929)
The Villages Daily Sun Newspaper reports facts and the actual news. Not speculation. Great newspaper with great reporters, stories and information. You should subscribe......

You’re kidding right? “Great newspaper?” Not even close. LMAO.

Lonnieme2 10-24-2021 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by midiwiz (Post 2020779)
it's part of the bubble recipe, a different version of "Stepford Wives". Keep them drunk and entertained - don't look behind or question that curtain. First time I've seen "newspapers" on driveways. I'm surprised they didn't have sidewalks with mailboxes and the front door and mailmen on foot.

Has it's benefits and deficits. I deal with the deficits and keep my head in reality aka outside the bubble.

We can't wait to live with our heads in the sand! Here we come Bubble, in 4 years. Have had a lifetime of upsetting news that concerns things for which we have no control. We get our daily metro Atlanta newspaper in the driveway, watch local and national news, and read some of it on the Internet. On occasion, a positive story is presented or information is provided that benefits us personally, but the overwhelming majority of news only provides us with a conversation piece. Conversation that does not lift the person with whom we share. In four years our news will become what the Villages wants us to hear. How a couple has celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary, how so-in-so won the pickleball tournament, etc. BRING IT ON! We have spent far too many hours of our valuable life focused on things for which we have absolutely no control and I ask myself, "why?" We look forward to enjoying life in the Villages that we worked so hard to have while letting others worry about the state of the country and world.

HORNET 10-24-2021 01:25 PM

That’s because The Daily Sun is a good news , news paper. The developer will slap their hands if they print anything they will hurt sales. They don’t report break ins and thiefs!

RedChariot 10-24-2021 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Joanne19335 (Post 2020763)
I would certainly want to know about crime taking place in my own back yard. Crime is up significantly, including here in TV. Lots of domestic violence in America’s Friendliest Home Town, fights at the squares and people passed out behind City Fire or Cody’s. You won’t read about it in the Daily Sun. It’s all about rainbows, sunshine and living the dream.

I agree! I want to know what crime is taking place in my neighborhood.

Number 10 GI 10-24-2021 02:10 PM

There is a very simple solution to this supposed problem, do not subscribe to the Daily Sun. See, it's so easy a caveman can understand it or even a Villager. I did a very quick search and found 3 other news sources that report all the crime, poor behavior, ignorance, and depravity that should more than satisfy the most morbid appetites out there.
I think some of you people need to find something else to occupy your time. Volunteer at a charity, help out a neighbor that needs assistance, get a hobby, get a pet, join a club, go to a nursing home and talk to the people living there and try to brighten their day, just do something other than constantly looking for the evil in society.

LateBoomer 10-24-2021 02:14 PM

**************.com you'll get the crime stories. and you'll note how many of them are committed not by Villagers but by people on the outside. and given how many people live here now. 140,000? It's an astonishingly small number and some of the crimes are kinda humorous. Today they talk about some woman from Leesburg who lifted a $36 bracelet from a TV boutique. It is what it is. in SF, you can't even get prosecuted for less than $1,000. so if the Daily Sun isn't enough of a dirt paper, so be it. can always read about the crime on line.

wisbad1 10-24-2021 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom1916 (Post 2020597)
The other day (10/21) I witnessed what I thought looked like a stand-off in Charlotte area around Pleasant View Place , I would say there were more than 20 + Police SUV's a few Fire / Rescue vehicles and Officers with Assault rifles ,Bullet proof shields and bullet proof jackets walking toward a home, I was told there was a person with a gun and I left, I saw or heard nothing on the news or in the Villages news??? what else don't we know about? subjective news??

I agree, house was robbed in pine hills and never heard a word. We found out from a friend. Robbed twice, anyone hear about it?

DAVES 10-24-2021 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Worldseries27 (Post 2020764)
go park your cart nearby the home in question.
In about 5 minutes the neighbors will tell you everything & more.

Actually a good idea. My dad used to work for CBS, many years ago. I several times went with the crew to news event. I was there. What appeared on the news as an edited story,
was far from what I saw.

DAVES 10-24-2021 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lonnieme2 (Post 2020952)
We can't wait to live with our heads in the sand! Here we come Bubble, in 4 years. Have had a lifetime of upsetting news that concerns things for which we have no control. We get our daily metro Atlanta newspaper in the driveway, watch local and national news, and read some of it on the Internet. On occasion, a positive story is presented or information is provided that benefits us personally, but the overwhelming majority of news only provides us with a conversation piece. Conversation that does not lift the person with whom we share. In four years our news will become what the Villages wants us to hear. How a couple has celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary, how so-in-so won the pickleball tournament, etc. BRING IT ON! We have spent far too many hours of our valuable life focused on things for which we have absolutely no control and I ask myself, "why?" We look forward to enjoying life in the Villages that we worked so hard to have while letting others worry about the state of the country and world.

The idea of an all good news news source has been tried, and failed many times. We are drawn to bad news. We are reading this thread. THERE WAS A MURDER-when we read it it was in Australia and it was three years ago.

Pairadocs 10-24-2021 05:35 PM

[QUOTE=Stu from NYC;2020647]The Sun Times has no interest in reporting crime.

And to elaborate a bit further, if you recognize what it actually is, a (granted fancy) advertising vehicle, which could (?) possibly have found a way to write off partially as a tax deduction (?), it makes sense. Retired very early so been here a long time. Recognized it was not a "real" newspaper in the sense many of us understood. Former city was less than 100,000 population, but the entire police blotter was a standard feature, it was a standard part of the "news". Something like a major presence as mentioned above, would always have received a separate article, possibly pictures. Near by cites of half a million and up, probably not, but here in America's home town, one would expect everything, especially anything that might indicate crime, danger, or anything the residents, being "seniors", should be especially alert to, would be a major gold of the local "newspaper"... but not so. Ditto Covid, and anything that could possibly be viewed as in any way "reality". Having said that, personally I believe all kinds of literature should be available, and that people know what the Sun actually is, and purchase it for reasons other than truth and up to the moment information; good or not so good. To me it's like purchasing a good novel for the beach to "escape" reality, or purchasing the latest copy of the physician's desk reference... it depends on what YOU want to read. If you are considering a move here, or just want to know for insurance rate reasons, the crime rate here, then the Sun is not the vehicle you would choose ! Some feel the $.50 is worth the price to use as a coupon book, or to compare auto prices of local dealers ! Others (jokingly ?) say, they need liners for the cage of their bird(s), so who knows !

Pairadocs 10-24-2021 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LateBoomer (Post 2020981)
**************.com you'll get the crime stories. and you'll note how many of them are committed not by Villagers but by people on the outside. and given how many people live here now. 140,000? It's an astonishingly small number and some of the crimes are kinda humorous. Today they talk about some woman from Leesburg who lifted a $36 bracelet from a TV boutique. It is what it is. in SF, you can't even get prosecuted for less than $1,000. so if the Daily Sun isn't enough of a dirt paper, so be it. can always read about the crime on line.

Pretty much agree with you, but, the line "isn't enough of a dirt paper" ? That might be a little to emotional and unfair really. I don't know that person who originally asked, but I think they might have been looking for what so many of us were used to in the papers from the locals we came from... mainly, not "DIRT" at all (if you mean like innuendo ? ) but just a simple, straightforward, feature that prints the daily police incident report (often called "blotter") without "dirt" or any kind of emotionally laden language. That's not much to ask of a home town paper really ?

Bogie Shooter 10-24-2021 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by wisbad1 (Post 2021021)
I agree, house was robbed in pine hills and never heard a word. We found out from a friend. Robbed twice, anyone hear about it?

I didn’t. Haven't changed anything, if did wouldn’t have changed anything.

JMintzer 10-24-2021 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2020715)
Silly me always thought a newspaper is supposed to report the news.

That train left the station years ago...

Luggage 10-25-2021 05:12 AM

I wonder where you find the statistics telling you that crime is up in the villages? Can you supply your sources? Thank you

Luggage 10-25-2021 05:15 AM

When the newspaper is owned by the Morse family or close friends/relatives, and then of course it's going to be slanted the way they wanted to be, just like in the old days of Chicago and New York when papers would come out for one candidate or other. That's called editorializing, and rich people own newspapers for that very reason. And again if you don't like it, you can certainly start your own paper or blog like these people have done it up here. That's why you see these little blue and red boxes all over towns giving away free community papers. That's an idea call it the police blotter and see how many advertisers you'll get when there's all negative news

Luggage 10-25-2021 05:17 AM

Spot crime and news break are two websites you should be interested in as they both talk about crime.

VillagerNut 10-25-2021 05:34 AM

Villages News
 
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Originally Posted by Redsmom (Post 2020879)
Just went to their site, and it is not free.

Yes their news is free. All you have to do is go to their website anytime and you can scroll through and see whatever you want to see. If you want to get it delivered to your email they charge $25 per year for that service. Very cheap cost to have a consistent email available every morning if you desire.

VillagerNut 10-25-2021 05:36 AM

News
 
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Originally Posted by Tom1916 (Post 2020597)
The other day (10/21) I witnessed what I thought looked like a stand-off in Charlotte area around Pleasant View Place , I would say there were more than 20 + Police SUV's a few Fire / Rescue vehicles and Officers with Assault rifles ,Bullet proof shields and bullet proof jackets walking toward a home, I was told there was a person with a gun and I left, I saw or heard nothing on the news or in the Villages news??? what else don't we know about? subjective news??

Since this site will not let you put their competitor (Villages News), if you send an email and put news @ their website address, they will investigate it and report it in most cases.

midiwiz 10-25-2021 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2020858)
And yet, you moved here?

in the time allotted and market frenzy had no choice.

Sarandipity 10-25-2021 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom1916 (Post 2020597)
The other day (10/21) I witnessed what I thought looked like a stand-off in Charlotte area around Pleasant View Place , I would say there were more than 20 + Police SUV's a few Fire / Rescue vehicles and Officers with Assault rifles ,Bullet proof shields and bullet proof jackets walking toward a home, I was told there was a person with a gun and I left, I saw or heard nothing on the news or in the Villages news??? what else don't we know about? subjective news??

Because it's negative news about The Villages and they don't want any prospective buyers seeing such news. The Daily Sun is always censoring negative articles. One reason we stopped taking it. Just fluff from other AP outlets for the biggest part.

JMintzer 10-25-2021 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by midiwiz (Post 2021209)
in the time allotted and market frenzy had no choice.

No choice? Interesting slant on things...

OhioBuckeye 10-25-2021 10:06 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2020715)
Silly me always thought a newspaper is supposed to report the news.

Great response, ! Referring to what, just curious.

Bogie Shooter 10-25-2021 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by midiwiz (Post 2021209)
in the time allotted and market frenzy had no choice.

Then why complain……..

Annie Almeida 10-25-2021 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom1916 (Post 2020597)
The other day (10/21) I witnessed what I thought looked like a stand-off in Charlotte area around Pleasant View Place , I would say there were more than 20 + Police SUV's a few Fire / Rescue vehicles and Officers with Assault rifles ,Bullet proof shields and bullet proof jackets walking toward a home, I was told there was a person with a gun and I left, I saw or heard nothing on the news or in the Villages news??? what else don't we know about? subjective news??

No news is good news! 😊

OrangeBlossomBaby 10-25-2021 09:14 PM

There are also incidents involving military veterans and current members of the military that don't get published. It is a policy of courtesy to not report them. For instance - you are not likely to see an article in the newspaper about a veteran who commits suicide, even if that occurs in a parking lot of a busy store.


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