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-   -   Why are the taxpayers, and not the developer, paying for the expansion of the village (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/why-taxpayers-not-developer-paying-expansion-village-298614/)

biker1 10-06-2019 07:27 AM

Nope. FL law requires that tipped employees make at least the FL minimum wage ($8.46 per hour) with tips included. If they don't hit that with tips then the employer is required to make up the difference. FL minimum wage before tips for tipped employees is $5.44 per hour. Depending on where you work you can do much better than that.

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Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1686558)
Waiters in the Villages restaurants don't earn $10.00/hour. Some of them don't even earn $5/hour before tips. Some, who work mid-shift (not breakfast or lunch, but inbetween) get a total of $7.60/hour AFTER tips.

It's not a liveable wage and using this segment of the population to justify developers not having to pay a greater impact fee "because they bring in workers" is laughable, at best.


eyc234 10-06-2019 08:00 AM

Agree that wages are low and could increase. How this fits with this thread is that just as raising cost for any builder, restaurant or any kind of business will result in higher consumer prices. Business will pass on cost. The public must be willing to accept higher cost and a little pain. You have to look at all the consequences of actions not just a few and determine if society overall is willing to accept the consequences of the actions.

skip0358 10-06-2019 08:32 AM

It is my understanding ( from an earlier post)that when the County gave the green light to continue building it was with the understanding that only if the County ( thus the tax payers) paid for all the road construction and road improvements that were needed. Thus the tax increase. The County probably doing the math with the increase knew they would be paid back big time with the additional tax dollars plus more commercial properties coming in time bringing their tax dollars also. Think it was a win win for both the County & The Developer plus ALL the jobs available to the trades performing the work. JMO

perrjojo 10-06-2019 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1686557)
Yeah this is a kind of ridiculous assumption. Considering her propensity for searching and all previous posts of any given poster just to spew back information they've posted to use against them, she knows darned well I don't want to live in Florida, and she knows why I'm living in Florida anyway.

I HATE Florida. If the Villages was in any other state in the country, then moving to Florida upon retirement would've been a deal-breaker.

I’m sorry you hate Florida and do not live here by choice.

perrjojo 10-06-2019 09:05 AM

There are those who hate the Developer and the VHA. There are those who hate the POA. I think they create a balance in all things TV. Learn from both and draw your own conclusions.

PrudentLifer 10-06-2019 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1686557)
Yeah this is a kind of ridiculous assumption. Considering her propensity for searching and all previous posts of any given poster just to spew back information they've posted to use against them, she knows darned well I don't want to live in Florida, and she knows why I'm living in Florida anyway.



I HATE Florida. If the Villages was in any other state in the country, then moving to Florida upon retirement would've been a deal-breaker.



Is there any state in the south that puts the needs of the worker bee ahead of its plantation owners? Florida is in transition, as a whole, eventually it will flip. But the plantation we live on, The Villages, will not.


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Velvet 10-06-2019 09:07 AM

Just out of curiosity, how do you think people became billionaires from very little in a couple of generations?

Bogie Shooter 10-06-2019 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1686585)
Just out of curiosity, how do you think people became billionaires from very little in a couple of generations?

I am curious too, what do you think?

Kenswing 10-06-2019 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 1686583)
There are those who hate the Developer and the VHA. There are those who hate the POA. I think they create a balance in all things TV. Learn from both and draw your own conclusions.

I take the Olympic scoring approach. Throw out the high and low scores and add up the middle.. lol

eyc234 10-06-2019 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1686614)
I am curious too, what do you think?

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1686585)
Just out of curiosity, how do you think people became billionaires from very little in a couple of generations?

Ohhhh I do not know, maybe create a product thru innovation, trial and error, find the right niche, exceptional marketing, quality and build on all of these things. Nothing like Bill Gates, Larry Ellison, Elan Musk, Jeff Bezos, Warren Buffet, Ross Perot, Mark Zuckerberg or any of the money grubbing millionaires/billionaires that have made their money in less than one generation. The only people who have benefitted from any of their companies was them. :icon_wink::icon_wink:

Velvet 10-06-2019 11:38 AM

The strategy seems to be working quite well.

Advogado 10-06-2019 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 1686583)
There are those who hate the Developer and the VHA. There are those who hate the POA. I think they create a balance in all things TV. Learn from both and draw your own conclusions.

I would not have a major problem with the Villages Homeowners Advocates if it would just change its name to: Villages-Developer Advocates. Its silence on the Developer's offloading his infrastructure costs on Sumter County taxpayers is deafening.

PrudentLifer 10-06-2019 12:47 PM

Personally, I don't care if my taxes go up 300 bucks. Life sucks ya know. My challenge is timing this just right so I unload my house near it's peak, then move to an area which won't be as sensitive to the impending baby buster price decline. At that point I'll kick back. Too many people are getting their panties in a ruffle about a few bucks a year. Think how you'll feel down the road living in the worlds largest retirement shanty town. Not this guy.


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jellybeanrt 10-06-2019 01:37 PM

As we do not have a Mayor in the Villages, can someone tell me how we can have commissioners in the Villages. ?

PrudentLifer 10-06-2019 01:38 PM

Why are the taxpayers, and not the developer, paying for the expansion of the village
 
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Originally Posted by jellybeanrt (Post 1686654)
As we do not have a Mayor in the Villages, can someone tell me how we can have commissioners in the Villages. ?



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