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retiredguy123 04-15-2025 08:03 AM

My only point was that, if you want to avoid a USPS delivery, having it delivered to an Amazon locker will not accomplish your goal.

retiredguy123 04-15-2025 08:11 AM

Note that the tracking number will provide information about how the package will be delivered. "TBA" is an Amazon number which will arrive at your house, almost always. "1Z" is a UPS number, and it can arrive at your house, but sometimes UPS will divert it to USPS. "9" is a USPS number, and it will be delivered to the mailbox, unless it is too large, and then you don't know where it will end up.

Gsorace 04-15-2025 08:17 AM

Might make sense
 
I had a short term rental & allowed the use of mailbox. Now part of my mail never gets to me. My tenant innocently put in a change of address when she left and I can't even get the employees to put MY name back on the box.

meboyle 04-15-2025 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by azcindy (Post 2424344)
The homeowner will not allow me to use her mailbox when I rent her house. She suggested I signup for SafeShip or the UPS store to get a PO box. Problem is these places give you a physical address, not a PO Box number. So how do I get Amazon packages delivered to my physical rental address, and not my mailing address? Amazon does not have a section for mailing address only and the 2 addresses would be different zip codes so I can't have both addresses on one form. This becomes more problematic when Amazon decides to ship via USPS (and normally you don't know in advance). Hopefully someone has dealt with this.

Thanks,

Cindy

I rented a mailbox at the UPS store. It worked out great for me. Or put a hold on your mail at your home address. The homeowner does not have to give up the key. But some will if you will pay for it upfront if you lose it. Good luck.

jimmy o 04-15-2025 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by azcindy (Post 2424344)
The homeowner will not allow me to use her mailbox when I rent her house. She suggested I signup for SafeShip or the UPS store to get a PO box. Problem is these places give you a physical address, not a PO Box number. So how do I get Amazon packages delivered to my physical rental address, and not my mailing address? Amazon does not have a section for mailing address only and the 2 addresses would be different zip codes so I can't have both addresses on one form. This becomes more problematic when Amazon decides to ship via USPS (and normally you don't know in advance). Hopefully someone has dealt with this.

Thanks,

Cindy

Amazon allows for shipping to any address regardless of what your mailing address is. Just put in shipping address that you want, and then add special instruction that it must be shipped to that property address and not mailbox.

Bill14564 04-15-2025 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2424544)
My only point was that, if you want to avoid a USPS delivery, having it delivered to an Amazon locker will not accomplish your goal.

My point is that having it delivered to an Amazon locker WILL accomplish the OP's goal.

I really don't care if the USPS handles the package as long as it gets delivered to the locker.

If the USPS won't deliver to the locker then Amazon WILL NOT use the USPS for deliveries destined for the locker.

Not all items will have the locker as a delivery option. The OP is taking a risk if they order those items.

Sgt Ed 04-15-2025 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2424358)
That may work at your mail station, but not at mine. The guy there won't give you the time of day, or a package. Besides, it is illegal to deliver a package that has the wrong name on it.

If the name is wrong how come i still get mail from the past 4 owners of the house?

retiredguy123 04-15-2025 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2424556)
My point is that having it delivered to an Amazon locker WILL accomplish the OP's goal.

I really don't care if the USPS handles the package as long as it gets delivered to the locker.

If the USPS won't deliver to the locker then Amazon WILL NOT use the USPS for deliveries destined for the locker.

Not all items will have the locker as a delivery option. The OP is taking a risk if they order those items.

I think we agree. But, some posters seem to think that, if they opt for a locker delivery, they are avoiding USPS deliveries. The shipper can decide to use USPS, and the customer cannot change that form of delivery. If you are offered and accept a locker delivery, all you are doing is diverting the package from the house to a locker.

retiredguy123 04-15-2025 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmy o (Post 2424554)
Amazon allows for shipping to any address regardless of what your mailing address is. Just put in shipping address that you want, and then add special instruction that it must be shipped to that property address and not mailbox.

Yes, you can specify any address, but, if the shipper chooses to use USPS, they will place the package into the mailbox at the address.

Bill14564 04-15-2025 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2424560)
I think we agree. But, some posters seem to think that, if they opt for a locker delivery, they are avoiding USPS deliveries. The shipper can decide to use USPS, and the customer cannot change that form of delivery. If you are offered and accept a locker delivery, all you are doing is diverting the package from the house a locker.

Absolutely.

The difference is, a "house" delivery may come to my door or may come to the postal station. If it comes to the postal station then the OP has a problem.

The locker delivery goes to the locker. I really don't care what uniform the guy is wearing as the package travels, I know it will get to the locker.

azcindy 04-15-2025 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by sallyg (Post 2424526)
We faced a similar problem and chose Safe Ship. Bad decision. Never got a single piece of mail delivered. It was beyond maddening. Suggest trying the post office. Good luck.

Wow! I was considering Safe Ship in Magnolia plaza.

Have others had this experience with Safe Ship?

Thanks!

retiredguy123 04-15-2025 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2424562)
Absolutely.

The difference is, a "house" delivery may come to my door or may come to the postal station. If it comes to the postal station then the OP has a problem.

The locker delivery goes to the locker. I really don't care what uniform the guy is wearing as the package travels, I know it will get to the locker.

The USPS will not accept anything that doesn't have postage. The Amazon truck driver will either deliver the package to the house or to the locker, but not to the postal station.

Professor 04-15-2025 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by azcindy (Post 2424348)
I have a 3 month rental with right of first refusal for subsequent months. Homeowner says because of Squatter rights, it is not good to let a tenant use your mailbox. I am not familiar with squatter rights, but that might be true.

Anyway, wish Amazon would let you know what shipping method they plan to use in advance so one can select the appropriate address.

Use a pickup location just to keep things simple is my suggestion.

Danube 04-15-2025 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2424347)
If this is a short term rental, you may not have much choice. But if it is a long term rental, you can change your mailing address at the Post Office and get a new lock and keys. The landlord cannot control the box. The mailbox is owned by the USPS, not by the landlord. I would check with the Post Office about their policy for long vs short term rentals.

If I were the landlord and a renter did that or even tried to do that, they'd be out of my house by any means necessary.

It would be part of the rental contract- leave the USPS box alone.

retiredguy123 04-15-2025 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Danube (Post 2424576)
If I were the landlord and a renter did that or even tried to do that, they'd be out of my house by any means necessary.

It would be part of the rental contract- leave the USPS box alone.

I agree if it is a short term lease, like 3 months or so. But, if the renter has a one year or longer lease, they have established a permanent address, and they have the right to receive mail from the Post Office.

Danube 04-15-2025 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2424577)
I agree if it is a short term lease, like 3 months or so. But, if the renter has a one year or longer lease, they have established a permanent address, and they have the right to receive mail from the Post Office.


And then the landord has the right to evict them + possible damages if they signed the contract stating they would not attempt to use the USPS box. Nothing wrong with that language in a rental contract.

Do you think a long-term trader would also have the right to do a change-of-address for the box, re-directing mail that's addressed to the property owner? Or mark items addressed to the property owner "not at this address"?

Does a long-term renter has a right to remove a tree or repaint the property owner's house? After all, they are a resident there.

They could always rent from someone else.

Bill14564 04-15-2025 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2424567)
The USPS will not accept anything that doesn't have postage. The Amazon truck driver will either deliver the package to the house or to the locker, but not to the postal station.

I think we agree so I don't understand why these details matter. I don't get to choose who carries the package.

If I ask for it to be delivered to a locker then it is delivered to a locker. I don't know and I don't care who carries the package, all I know is I will be able to pick it up from the locker.

If I ask for it to be delivered to my house then it will either be dropped at my door or will show up in the postal station. I don't know which will happen and I have no control over which will happen - it will be a surprise to me.

*IF* I could specify the method of shipping then maybe I would demand Amazon delivery so it shows up at my door. However, that is not something I can specify, all I can say is "locker" or "house" where:
locker -> locker (and I don't know how it gets there)
house -> front door OR postal station (and I don't have any control over which)

retiredguy123 04-15-2025 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Danube (Post 2424580)
And then the landord has the right to evict them + possible damages if they signed the contract stating they would not attempt to use the USPS box. Nothing wrong with that language in a rental contract.

Do you think a long-term trader would also have the right to do a change-of-address for the box, re-directing mail that's addressed to the property owner? Or mark items addressed to the property owner "not at this address"?

Does a long-term renter has a right to remove a tree or repaint the property owner's house? After all, they are a resident there.

They could always rent from someone else.

If access to the mailbox is specified in the lease, it may be a gray area. But, the USPS has specific rules for tenant access to the mailbox, which is owned and controlled by the Federal Government, not the landlord. Google it.

nn0wheremann 04-15-2025 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2424347)
If this is a short term rental, you may not have much choice. But if it is a long term rental, you can change your mailing address at the Post Office and get a new lock and keys. The landlord cannot control the box. The mailbox is owned by the USPS, not by the landlord. I would check with the Post Office about their policy for long vs short term rentals.

If you change address to the rental, it will follow you forever on your credit history. Every fool database seller, like whitpages dot com, will associate you with that address, amd with everyone who has owned or rented that address, and their relatives, forever. You don’t want that to happen.
Amazon will allow you to specify an alternate delivery address for packages, but be careful, they might deliver by postal mail to the rental house box at the mail station.

garykoca427@gmail.com 04-15-2025 10:05 AM

You can have the US Postal service give you a regular PO box for mail and a special PO box for packages. Of course, there is a cost for doing that. But that is what we are doing when we rent for e months next year. We will be using the USPS office in Oxford, which is near where we will be renting. I will have to pick up the mail with the key they gave me, but that is fine. The Villages rental program will not give you a mailbox either. You have to use USPS or UPS, and USPS is cheaper.

Beats 04-15-2025 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by azcindy (Post 2424344)
The homeowner will not allow me to use her mailbox when I rent her house. She suggested I signup for SafeShip or the UPS store to get a PO box. Problem is these places give you a physical address, not a PO Box number. So how do I get Amazon packages delivered to my physical rental address, and not my mailing address? Amazon does not have a section for mailing address only and the 2 addresses would be different zip codes so I can't have both addresses on one form. This becomes more problematic when Amazon decides to ship via USPS (and normally you don't know in advance). Hopefully someone has dealt with this.

Thanks,

Cindy

I would not let you use the mailbox as well, it is a short term rental and it establishes residency and a possible nightmare if you or anyone wanted to squat in that home. Believe me I have been there! If I am not mistaken Amazon uses their own vehicles and does not use USPS, I have used them many times and they have NEVER used USPS. Maybe if you buy from Temu they would use USPS. Don't like it then don't rent from them and good luck with that, too many people have been burnt by letting renters think that they rent for a few months and get the same benefits that we pay for year round. Want a mailbox, pony up like the rest of us did and buy a house here.

CosmicTrucker 04-15-2025 11:21 AM

Amazon will allow you to ship to their drop boxes around The Villages.



Quote:

Originally Posted by azcindy (Post 2424344)
The homeowner will not allow me to use her mailbox when I rent her house. She suggested I signup for SafeShip or the UPS store to get a PO box. Problem is these places give you a physical address, not a PO Box number. So how do I get Amazon packages delivered to my physical rental address, and not my mailing address? Amazon does not have a section for mailing address only and the 2 addresses would be different zip codes so I can't have both addresses on one form. This becomes more problematic when Amazon decides to ship via USPS (and normally you don't know in advance). Hopefully someone has dealt with this.

Thanks,

Cindy


Bill14564 04-15-2025 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Beats (Post 2424602)
...
If I am not mistaken Amazon uses their own vehicles and does not use USPS, I have used them many times and they have NEVER used USPS. Maybe if you buy from Temu they would use USPS.
...

You are mistaken. Apparently, I and a few others on here order from Amazon more than you do.

Other than that, what a nice, neighborly message.

Danube 04-15-2025 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2424586)
If access to the mailbox is specified in the lease, it may be a gray area. But, the USPS has specific rules for tenant access to the mailbox, which is owned and controlled by the Federal Government, not the landlord. Google it.

Wrong again.

MPHub 04-15-2025 01:31 PM

Just insert on your Amazon address: FRONT PORCH DELIVERY ONLY. It worked for us.

MPHub 04-15-2025 01:33 PM

Amazon uses USPS for small items all the time.

nhkim 04-15-2025 03:12 PM

Mailbox store is the correct solution
 
This is what we did for the two years that we rented before we bought. I didn't want to use the owner's mailbox because my thought was that once we were gone, what if important things showed up and were sitting in their box? (They didn't live in the house, so didn't always get their mail.) Examples would be anything from Social Security or Medicare. If you do a change of address with them, it will turn into its own nightmare.

Anyway, we went to the UPS Store at Pinellas (that was the closest to our rental) and got a mailbox there. You are given a physical address with a number behind it. I can't remember exactly how it goes. You have your own mailbox that you can access 24/7 because you get a key to the store that only allows access to the mailboxes. If something is delivered that doesn't fit in the box, you get a text message or email about it (I think I'm remembering correctly), and then you just need to go in during store hours to retrieve it. So that UPS box covers anything that comes any way it's sent: UPS, FedEx, USPS. The only downside is that you have to schlep over to the store to pick up everything, although you won't go there on a wild goose chase because you'll have notification that it's there.

That's one of the downsides to not owning your own place, but it's manageable.

AugustRush 04-15-2025 05:32 PM

I believe that Hometown Property Management advises short term renters [in The Villages] to obtain a mail/PO Box during their stay. The management company does not give the homeowner's USPS mailbox key to the renters during their stay.
Mail boxes are available at the UPS store or post office and will save you a lot of headaches for temporary residency/vacations. They can receive your Amazon items. I've found this is the best option to prevent problems with mail/packages during a visit and especially important for mail ordered medication shipped via USPS!
(*I've found on occasion though, that some sellers on Amazon won't ship an item to a PO Box, so I've had to buy it through a different seller). Amazon usually doesn't disclose which carrier they will use. Don't assume something big or heavy won't come USPS. Good Luck!

Telma 04-16-2025 01:52 AM

You can request Amazon to not use USPS
 
I called Amazon couple years ago and requested to not use USPS and they honored that.

Kelevision 04-16-2025 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by azcindy (Post 2424563)
Wow! I was considering Safe Ship in Magnolia plaza.

Have others had this experience with Safe Ship?

Thanks!

I’ve only used them to return or ship items but have never had any issues.

DarrenandKathy 04-16-2025 04:53 AM

You can have multiple ship to addresses with Amazon.
My mailing address is in Canada and I have my US shipping address as well as my home address in their system.
I have also had items over the years that I had shipped to my business address and other persons.
I personally wouldn’t give up my postal box for anything short of a years lease.

USOTR 04-16-2025 05:11 AM

Travel
 
We use to travel allot via 5th wheel. We used a PO box forwarding service, and so this became our mailing address. For shipping we used the physical address to where ever we would be staying that week. Amazon had no problem with delivering to our physical address with means other than USPS.

Nana2Teddy 04-16-2025 06:54 AM

When we moved here in 2022 before purchasing a home we were in a rental for 6 weeks. Our landlord didn’t want us using her mailbox so we rented a box at SafeShip for 3 months (best deal over monthly). You get a physical address to use, not just a PO box# even though you are assigned a box. When you receive packages from Amazon or wherever, they put a notice in your box letting you know you have a package too. We (I) made many Amazon purchases and all arrived safely at SafeShip and were passed on to us. Easy peasy.

retiredguy123 04-16-2025 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Telma (Post 2424716)
I called Amazon couple years ago and requested to not use USPS and they honored that.

So, what happens when you order a package from Amazon that is sold and shipped by a third party who uses USPS?

retiredguy123 04-16-2025 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MPHub (Post 2424634)
Just insert on your Amazon address: FRONT PORCH DELIVERY ONLY. It worked for us.

If you order a package from Amazon that is sold and delivered by a third party who only uses USPS, doesn't the USPS place the item in your mailbox? Or does Amazon refuse to sell the item to you?

Velvet 04-16-2025 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by azcindy (Post 2424344)
The homeowner will not allow me to use her mailbox when I rent her house. She suggested I signup for SafeShip or the UPS store to get a PO box. Problem is these places give you a physical address, not a PO Box number. So how do I get Amazon packages delivered to my physical rental address, and not my mailing address? Amazon does not have a section for mailing address only and the 2 addresses would be different zip codes so I can't have both addresses on one form. This becomes more problematic when Amazon decides to ship via USPS (and normally you don't know in advance). Hopefully someone has dealt with this.

Thanks,

Cindy

It sounds like they’ve rented you the accommodations but not their mail box too. Because private mail arrives at my mailbox I wouldn’t rent it out either. I also don’t rent out my car, my purse etc you get the idea.

Renting your own post box seems like a good idea.

Beats 04-16-2025 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2424414)
Well then there should be no problem. Correct? Renter call the post office and demand a key !
:22yikes:

Yeah, good luck with that when you do not own the home and the have no record of you. Think they just give out keys to anyone without proof, and then you demand a key!

Beats 04-16-2025 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2424414)
Well then there should be no problem. Correct? Renter call the post office and demand a key !
:22yikes:

Good luck with that, think the just give out a key to anyone without proof, and then after you demand a key!

retiredguy123 04-16-2025 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Beats (Post 2424834)
Good luck with that, think the just give out a key to anyone without proof, and then after you demand a key!

You need proof that you are the legal resident of the house.

Sully2023 04-16-2025 11:09 AM

Post office
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by azcindy (Post 2424344)
The homeowner will not allow me to use her mailbox when I rent her house. She suggested I signup for SafeShip or the UPS store to get a PO box. Problem is these places give you a physical address, not a PO Box number. So how do I get Amazon packages delivered to my physical rental address, and not my mailing address? Amazon does not have a section for mailing address only and the 2 addresses would be different zip codes so I can't have both addresses on one form. This becomes more problematic when Amazon decides to ship via USPS (and normally you don't know in advance). Hopefully someone has dealt with this.

Thanks,

Cindy

I rented different homes for five months before buying. I had good service from the local post office. I went into the post office area where the mail is delivered and told them I was looking for a package delivered to the address i was staying they accommodated me and gave me the items that was shipped to the home address. With my name on it.


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