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Bill14564 04-15-2025 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2424544)
My only point was that, if you want to avoid a USPS delivery, having it delivered to an Amazon locker will not accomplish your goal.

My point is that having it delivered to an Amazon locker WILL accomplish the OP's goal.

I really don't care if the USPS handles the package as long as it gets delivered to the locker.

If the USPS won't deliver to the locker then Amazon WILL NOT use the USPS for deliveries destined for the locker.

Not all items will have the locker as a delivery option. The OP is taking a risk if they order those items.

Sgt Ed 04-15-2025 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2424358)
That may work at your mail station, but not at mine. The guy there won't give you the time of day, or a package. Besides, it is illegal to deliver a package that has the wrong name on it.

If the name is wrong how come i still get mail from the past 4 owners of the house?

retiredguy123 04-15-2025 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2424556)
My point is that having it delivered to an Amazon locker WILL accomplish the OP's goal.

I really don't care if the USPS handles the package as long as it gets delivered to the locker.

If the USPS won't deliver to the locker then Amazon WILL NOT use the USPS for deliveries destined for the locker.

Not all items will have the locker as a delivery option. The OP is taking a risk if they order those items.

I think we agree. But, some posters seem to think that, if they opt for a locker delivery, they are avoiding USPS deliveries. The shipper can decide to use USPS, and the customer cannot change that form of delivery. If you are offered and accept a locker delivery, all you are doing is diverting the package from the house to a locker.

retiredguy123 04-15-2025 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmy o (Post 2424554)
Amazon allows for shipping to any address regardless of what your mailing address is. Just put in shipping address that you want, and then add special instruction that it must be shipped to that property address and not mailbox.

Yes, you can specify any address, but, if the shipper chooses to use USPS, they will place the package into the mailbox at the address.

Bill14564 04-15-2025 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2424560)
I think we agree. But, some posters seem to think that, if they opt for a locker delivery, they are avoiding USPS deliveries. The shipper can decide to use USPS, and the customer cannot change that form of delivery. If you are offered and accept a locker delivery, all you are doing is diverting the package from the house a locker.

Absolutely.

The difference is, a "house" delivery may come to my door or may come to the postal station. If it comes to the postal station then the OP has a problem.

The locker delivery goes to the locker. I really don't care what uniform the guy is wearing as the package travels, I know it will get to the locker.

azcindy 04-15-2025 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by sallyg (Post 2424526)
We faced a similar problem and chose Safe Ship. Bad decision. Never got a single piece of mail delivered. It was beyond maddening. Suggest trying the post office. Good luck.

Wow! I was considering Safe Ship in Magnolia plaza.

Have others had this experience with Safe Ship?

Thanks!

retiredguy123 04-15-2025 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2424562)
Absolutely.

The difference is, a "house" delivery may come to my door or may come to the postal station. If it comes to the postal station then the OP has a problem.

The locker delivery goes to the locker. I really don't care what uniform the guy is wearing as the package travels, I know it will get to the locker.

The USPS will not accept anything that doesn't have postage. The Amazon truck driver will either deliver the package to the house or to the locker, but not to the postal station.

Professor 04-15-2025 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by azcindy (Post 2424348)
I have a 3 month rental with right of first refusal for subsequent months. Homeowner says because of Squatter rights, it is not good to let a tenant use your mailbox. I am not familiar with squatter rights, but that might be true.

Anyway, wish Amazon would let you know what shipping method they plan to use in advance so one can select the appropriate address.

Use a pickup location just to keep things simple is my suggestion.

Danube 04-15-2025 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2424347)
If this is a short term rental, you may not have much choice. But if it is a long term rental, you can change your mailing address at the Post Office and get a new lock and keys. The landlord cannot control the box. The mailbox is owned by the USPS, not by the landlord. I would check with the Post Office about their policy for long vs short term rentals.

If I were the landlord and a renter did that or even tried to do that, they'd be out of my house by any means necessary.

It would be part of the rental contract- leave the USPS box alone.

retiredguy123 04-15-2025 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Danube (Post 2424576)
If I were the landlord and a renter did that or even tried to do that, they'd be out of my house by any means necessary.

It would be part of the rental contract- leave the USPS box alone.

I agree if it is a short term lease, like 3 months or so. But, if the renter has a one year or longer lease, they have established a permanent address, and they have the right to receive mail from the Post Office.

Danube 04-15-2025 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2424577)
I agree if it is a short term lease, like 3 months or so. But, if the renter has a one year or longer lease, they have established a permanent address, and they have the right to receive mail from the Post Office.


And then the landord has the right to evict them + possible damages if they signed the contract stating they would not attempt to use the USPS box. Nothing wrong with that language in a rental contract.

Do you think a long-term trader would also have the right to do a change-of-address for the box, re-directing mail that's addressed to the property owner? Or mark items addressed to the property owner "not at this address"?

Does a long-term renter has a right to remove a tree or repaint the property owner's house? After all, they are a resident there.

They could always rent from someone else.

Bill14564 04-15-2025 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2424567)
The USPS will not accept anything that doesn't have postage. The Amazon truck driver will either deliver the package to the house or to the locker, but not to the postal station.

I think we agree so I don't understand why these details matter. I don't get to choose who carries the package.

If I ask for it to be delivered to a locker then it is delivered to a locker. I don't know and I don't care who carries the package, all I know is I will be able to pick it up from the locker.

If I ask for it to be delivered to my house then it will either be dropped at my door or will show up in the postal station. I don't know which will happen and I have no control over which will happen - it will be a surprise to me.

*IF* I could specify the method of shipping then maybe I would demand Amazon delivery so it shows up at my door. However, that is not something I can specify, all I can say is "locker" or "house" where:
locker -> locker (and I don't know how it gets there)
house -> front door OR postal station (and I don't have any control over which)

retiredguy123 04-15-2025 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Danube (Post 2424580)
And then the landord has the right to evict them + possible damages if they signed the contract stating they would not attempt to use the USPS box. Nothing wrong with that language in a rental contract.

Do you think a long-term trader would also have the right to do a change-of-address for the box, re-directing mail that's addressed to the property owner? Or mark items addressed to the property owner "not at this address"?

Does a long-term renter has a right to remove a tree or repaint the property owner's house? After all, they are a resident there.

They could always rent from someone else.

If access to the mailbox is specified in the lease, it may be a gray area. But, the USPS has specific rules for tenant access to the mailbox, which is owned and controlled by the Federal Government, not the landlord. Google it.

nn0wheremann 04-15-2025 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2424347)
If this is a short term rental, you may not have much choice. But if it is a long term rental, you can change your mailing address at the Post Office and get a new lock and keys. The landlord cannot control the box. The mailbox is owned by the USPS, not by the landlord. I would check with the Post Office about their policy for long vs short term rentals.

If you change address to the rental, it will follow you forever on your credit history. Every fool database seller, like whitpages dot com, will associate you with that address, amd with everyone who has owned or rented that address, and their relatives, forever. You don’t want that to happen.
Amazon will allow you to specify an alternate delivery address for packages, but be careful, they might deliver by postal mail to the rental house box at the mail station.

garykoca427@gmail.com 04-15-2025 10:05 AM

You can have the US Postal service give you a regular PO box for mail and a special PO box for packages. Of course, there is a cost for doing that. But that is what we are doing when we rent for e months next year. We will be using the USPS office in Oxford, which is near where we will be renting. I will have to pick up the mail with the key they gave me, but that is fine. The Villages rental program will not give you a mailbox either. You have to use USPS or UPS, and USPS is cheaper.


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