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I am for conserving everything, that said, I believe we are very arrogant believing we can save the earth, we are only 350 milliion people. Some provinces in India or China have more than that amount. Yes we consume a lot of oil, but it will be consumed anyway, if the US dont buy that much the price will go down and will be available for billions of people who can not afford it now. I remember George Carlin once said: We are going to destroy the earth with a cup of styrofoam? ........(x rated). When the volcan Mount Hellen erupted in Alaska a few years back, it put more pollution in the air that all the pollution men had done in 5000 years. China today is making all the pollution manufacturing (ineffiencely) our products, so we are sending our pollution somewhere else where there is no public opinion. We are destroying forests through China too, the corrupt officials there together with the super-corrupt cleptogovernments in Africa are stealing all the hard woods to manufacture furniture in China for the American market.

efrahin,
I believe we are beginning to realize what damage China is doing to it's own citizens and the world with it's disregard of scientifically accepted pollution prevention standards.
Already several Olympic athletes have voluntarily dropped out of the Olympics because they cannot perform in such a polluted environment.
It's amazing how we look the other way on all the abuses the Chinese government is responsible for all in the support of "free trade." It also bothers me that China has executed more citizens in the last year than any other country (Iran was number 2) - yet we freely export our technology to them and still insist on a trade embargo with Cuba?
Hopefully we are not looking to China as an example of what our energy policy should be! Energy independence is good for us, regardless of what other nations do or refuse to do.

Has anyone stood under a wind generator??? the WHINE would drive you nuts... There is a large wind generator farm about thirty five miles west of palm springs California.........the noise is deafening, thats why the only one's you hear of are in deserts or very remote areas........someone commented that they have lightning protection on them...There's no such things as 100% lightning protection.......Anything that high in an area of low terrain (Florida) would draw lightning and we are the lightning capitol of the world..The answer is nuclear power.............. France has the cheapest electricity in the world.... But the flower children of the sixty's forced us to tear down all our nuke power plants and now they want them back , well as John Wayne says TO LATE NATHEN , TO LATE................
ps Mt. st. helen is in Washington and was just a blip next
to Krakatoa.....

fumar

Travel: I know from first hand experience, I had to leave my land (Cuba) in 1960. You have to live under that political system to understand it. That is our hate for anything that has to do with liberal thoughts.

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Originally Posted by travel

Energy independence is good for us, regardless of what other nations do or refuse to do.

I could not agree more!!! And if it's not to be an official national thing (as it was for a few years prior to the mid-1980s...) but a grass-roots thing, then it will have to be regardless of what our nation (meaning governmentally) does or refuses to do.

efrahin,
My post was not in any way excusing the abuses in Cuba, but questioning why we look the other way with China. Money talks, unfortunately.
Travel

travel: no ofense perceived.