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Bill14564 10-17-2023 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2266093)
Not the golfer's fault. He just hit a bad shot. It happens. The OP's claim that the golfer's insurance company should pay is ridiculous.

Entirely the golfer's fault (unless a bird grabbed the ball and tossed it at the window). The golfer caused the ball to fly through the air, the golfer was solely responsible for the trajectory of the ball, it was the golfer's fault that the ball hit the window.

The golfer is not responsible for fixing the window. Errant golf balls are a risk accepted when purchasing a home on a golf course, just as alligators are a risk accepted when purchasing on water. The golfer has no obligation to fix the window.

mtdjed 10-17-2023 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by zummy (Post 2266047)
Our bedroom window was broken by an errant golf ball yesterday on the seventh hole on Bonifay Fort Walton. They had to know they did it and even apparently retrieved their golf ball. Their Home owners insurance will pay for the repairs. Everyone in their group had to be aware of this. Please step up and be a responsible adult and contact us or your insurance company to contact us anonymously. Tom and Teresa Zumbrook, 705 Bradford loop, the villages fl. 32163 thank you

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While I feel bad for your misfortune, I think your expectations are out of order. Houses built on golf courses are at risk and you the owner know that. You can mitigate your risk.

The golfer is the guest of the golf course. They do not bear responsibility unless negligent.

If I inadvertently broke a window, I absolutely would not go searching for the owner or even leave my address and name. Especially after I read your expectations. Too much chance of conflict. I would notify golf course ambassadors and let them do what they are trained to do.

It would seem that The Villages should put some warning/expectation into the covenants to alert buyers of golf course properties of these risks.

Stu from NYC 10-17-2023 09:16 PM

Before we bought our house rented one on a golf course. They had metal screens covering windows.

More than once heard a bang inside the house. Taught that is not where we want to be

retiredguy123 10-18-2023 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2266100)
Entirely the golfer's fault (unless a bird grabbed the ball and tossed it at the window). The golfer caused the ball to fly through the air, the golfer was solely responsible for the trajectory of the ball, it was the golfer's fault that the ball hit the window.

The golfer is not responsible for fixing the window. Errant golf balls are a risk accepted when purchasing a home on a golf course, just as alligators are a risk accepted when purchasing on water. The golfer has no obligation to fix the window.

Terminology. I would call it a mistake, not the golfer's fault.

"Mistake is generally used when something wrong happens inadvertently and there was no prior intention to do the 'mistake'. Fault is generally used to communicate the idea that wrong action was done with intention and possibly, malice."

Two Bills 10-18-2023 03:42 AM

Living on golf course is same as having grass lawn in front of house.
$hit happens!:icon_wink:

Rwirish 10-18-2023 05:00 AM

You live on a golf course.

Move on.

Sandy and Ed 10-18-2023 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2266061)
Unfortunately, I believe you assume the risk being the last on the golf course.

Who was there first???

Golf course first, Golfers second, Homeowner last.

As long as there was no intent by the golfer.

Agree but some might say that if the golfer knew he broke the window perhaps he should have made some effort to contact the owner. Some might also remember what they might have done as irresponsible kids when their baseball went through neighborhood house window. Think about it. What would you have done?? Any altruists out there??

Sandy and Ed 10-18-2023 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mtdjed (Post 2266117)
while i feel bad for your misfortune, i think your expectations are out of order. Houses built on golf courses are at risk and you the owner know that. You can mitigate your risk.

The golfer is the guest of the golf course. They do not bear responsibility unless negligent.

If i inadvertently broke a window, i absolutely would not go searching for the owner or even leave my address and name. Especially after i read your expectations. Too much chance of conflict. I would notify golf course ambassadors and let them do what they are trained to do.

It would seem that the villages should put some warning/expectation into the covenants to alert buyers of golf course properties of these risks.

well said !!!!

Bill14564 10-18-2023 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2266132)
Terminology. I would call it a mistake, not the golfer's fault.

"Mistake is generally used when something wrong happens inadvertently and there was no prior intention to do the 'mistake'. Fault is generally used to communicate the idea that wrong action was done with intention and possibly, malice."

Absolutely. There is no indication the golfer intended to hit the house (actually, there is no indication of anything other than a window was broken). A mistake.

josephchiro 10-18-2023 05:17 AM

It IS the golfer's "fault"....he's just not liable

josephchiro 10-18-2023 05:18 AM

It IS the golfer's "fault" however, the golfer is not liable

dewilson58 10-18-2023 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2266145)
Agree but some might say that if the golfer knew he broke the window perhaps he should have made some effort to contact the owner. Some might also remember what they might have done as irresponsible kids when their baseball went through neighborhood house window. Think about it. What would you have done?? Any altruists out there??

1st: I was sharing the legal prospective. OP didn't seem to understand.
2nd: "Irresponsible kids"..........probably not, could be jus as an accident as well.
3rd: Living on a golf course vs. baseball in a neighborhood.........very different.

Altruist..........Probably not that snowy white, but would pay for the window,
(except that guy on #4 Destin) :a040:

banjobob 10-18-2023 05:42 AM

Hazards of a “golf course” view you expect it to happen !

RedWingNut 10-18-2023 05:46 AM

Common courtesy would be the golfer accepts responsibility for his errant shot, leaves a note or goes back to the home after the round. Why do so many people take such joy in others misfortune with smart replies is beyond me.

dewilson58 10-18-2023 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RedWingNut (Post 2266167)
Why do so many people take such joy in others misfortune with smart replies is beyond me.

U have been on the site for 10 years.

Looks like "many" are expressing opinions & facts...........not taking joy.

:shrug:


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