And you know all this...... how?

Me too!

If you’ve had experience in the recovery field you’d know the signs are unmistakable.

Denial is not a river in Egypt.

What, the signs that her parents are enabling her?


I think the signs of drug addiction and alcoholism are unmistakable, but not the assumption that her parents are enabling her.

Signs? Parents bringing adult children back under their roofs many times are the result but not always as sign that they adult kids are not making it on their own. When the arrests start there’s a sure sign parents have enabled their kids and probably have posted bail. I’ve seen this happen with my late in-laws and late brother in law. He just couldn’t do it on his own and passed at age 53.

There is still no proof or "sign" in this story that her parents are enabling her. What sign did she give about that? I am responding to your response to eweissenbach, who was responding to gpsma, who was assuming that her parents were enabling her.

No proof but as I wrote in my last post I’ve seen this in a family situation of my own. Ya gotta read between the lines.

It is a shame that people, especially in our age group, or others I guess, can't drink responsibly. I have on occasion went overboard, which Is bad, but some of these people just don't give a damn. I guess I really can't explain the feeling they are looking for when they overindulge. It has to be something that alters their state of mind so that they can live with whatever they are living with. Maybe there is someone here that can really explain what possesses them to drink, what feeling they get to make them drink and then what feeling they get to make the overindulge. Anybody?

I read the newspaper from "back home"...….it's everywhere, so many stories.

Just don't think it's right to put a common tag on every addict's parents. What if she's mentally ill or has a learning disability or some other disabling factor? Not every "child" can be tossed out on the street to find his/her own help.

You know, each person throughout their lives has choices to make on how their life turns out.

The thousands of people I arrested in my career had that choice to do either what they did wrong to come in contact with me or make the right choice and not commit a crime.

The people that do bad things in life that we read about on the*******news.com, here on TOTV, see on television - they had that choice.

I do not believe all the BS about “mental disorders” or “mental disease”; I think it’s conveniently used far too often to not take responsibility for the actions they committed.

I think the addictive tendency may be at least partially inherited. Several people I know have decided to not drink because of the behavior of their ancestors. However, I also think that the majority of people can and do drink responsibly for their whole lives. We never know what kind of depression and sadness some people are facing. A drop in serotonin is also a common thing as we age, causing several conditions like depression and obsessive behaviors and anxiety.

It's very unfair to judge someone you know nothing about and don't know what they have been through to bring them to this point. I am really tired of all the self righteousness by people who's lives could have turned out very differently under different circumstances.

Boy, you said it, fw.

Agree! Until you have walked a mile in their shoes...... best to keep quiet.