Talk of The Villages Florida

Talk of The Villages Florida (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/)
-   The Villages, Florida, General Discussion (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/)
-   -   Woman mugged in TJ Maxx parking lot (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/woman-mugged-tj-maxx-parking-lot-100805/)

TVMayor 01-12-2014 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 809879)
Remember, shooting at someone who has robbed you and is running away is not self defense nor "stand your ground". Also, shooting in a stressful situation is far different than at a target range.

Also, this mugging DID NOT occur IN The Villages. It was technically Lady Lake.

T.J. Maxx
620 US N Highway 441, Rolling Acres Plaza, The Villages
(352) 430-2341

buggyone 01-12-2014 06:45 PM

The designation of The Villages or Lady Lake does not matter. Villagers do a lot of shopping there.

As to the posters who think that a gun is the answer, I would say "WRONG".

A purse snatcher would typically pick a person that he thinks is older and non-athletic. He would run at them from behind, hit them with enough force to knock them down, grab their purse and take off running to a nearby car driven by an accomplice.

The purse snatcher is not going to target a younger looking and athletic looking lady as a victim nor is he going to target a male (no purse). So, those people have little to worry about.

If the victim had a gun in their purse - it now belongs to the robber. If they had the gun on their body somewhere, after shaking cobwebs out of their head from being knocked down, the robber would be a hundred yards away and a pistol is not going to hit a target running a hundred yards away - and your life is not in danger anymore so Stand Your Ground is not a defense to shooting.

Best answer is to Be Aware of Your Surroundings. MACE or a gun is not a viable answer.

donb9006 01-12-2014 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 810766)
The designation of The Villages or Lady Lake does not matter. Villagers do a lot of shopping there.

As to the posters who think that a gun is the answer, I would say "WRONG".

A purse snatcher would typically pick a person that he thinks is older and non-athletic. He would run at them from behind, hit them with enough force to knock them down, grab their purse and take off running to a nearby car driven by an accomplice.

The purse snatcher is not going to target a younger looking and athletic looking lady as a victim nor is he going to target a male (no purse). So, those people have little to worry about.

If the victim had a gun in their purse - it now belongs to the robber. If they had the gun on their body somewhere, after shaking cobwebs out of their head from being knocked down, the robber would be a hundred yards away and a pistol is not going to hit a target running a hundred yards away - and your life is not in danger anymore so Stand Your Ground is not a defense to shooting.

Best answer is to Be Aware of Your Surroundings. MACE or a gun is not a viable answer.

Maybe it's time to change a few laws. I'll leave it at that...

hollander 01-12-2014 10:33 PM

This sad news has bothered me all weekend. I wish there was something we could do for this poor lady, and I wish there was something I could do to this thug.

TVMayor 01-12-2014 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donb9006 (Post 810865)
Maybe it's time to change a few laws. I'll leave it at that...

I can not imagine which law change would have changed the outcome of this crime other than “No Running in the Parking Lot”.

jblum315 01-13-2014 04:35 AM

I think an answer would be to buy a can of pepper spray and carry it in your hand while going to your car. Probably you won't even have to use it.
By the way, where can you buy pepper spray around here?

Parker 01-13-2014 05:46 AM

Buggyone got it right. Much as I'd like to think a gun or mace would save the day, reason tells me his scenario is correct. I'm for tough punishment for criminals so that perhaps they'd think twice before committing these acts. Currently there is little more than a slap on the hand, if that. Why not take that purse, or kick in that door?

TexaninVA 01-13-2014 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 810766)
The designation of The Villages or Lady Lake does not matter. Villagers do a lot of shopping there.

As to the posters who think that a gun is the answer, I would say "WRONG".

A purse snatcher would typically pick a person that he thinks is older and non-athletic. He would run at them from behind, hit them with enough force to knock them down, grab their purse and take off running to a nearby car driven by an accomplice.

The purse snatcher is not going to target a younger looking and athletic looking lady as a victim nor is he going to target a male (no purse). So, those people have little to worry about.

If the victim had a gun in their purse - it now belongs to the robber. If they had the gun on their body somewhere, after shaking cobwebs out of their head from being knocked down, the robber would be a hundred yards away and a pistol is not going to hit a target running a hundred yards away - and your life is not in danger anymore so Stand Your Ground is not a defense to shooting.

Best answer is to Be Aware of Your Surroundings. MACE or a gun is not a viable answer.

Actually, if you are aware of your surroundings, have a concealed pistol with the knowledge and license to carry it, this becomes a very viable answer.

graciegirl 01-13-2014 09:53 AM

TraceyMoore RN?????
 
Please come on and give us an up date on this poor woman.


Having a broken pelvis for an eighty year old is very serious. Since Tracey told us she is from another country, I wonder if she has friends here and I worry on top of being in pain she is in the hospital alone without someone coming to see her.


Wonder what if anything we could do to help her?


Salybow? You usually know about this kind of stuff, having been a hospital chaplain. Can you think of anything we could do?

buggyone 01-13-2014 01:34 PM

"A purse snatcher would typically pick a person that he thinks is older and probably somewhat frail. He would run at them from behind, hit them with enough force to knock them down, grab their purse and take off running to a nearby car driven by an accomplice.

The purse snatcher is not going to target a younger looking and athletic looking lady as a victim nor is he going to target a male (no purse). So, those people have little to worry about.

If the victim (older, frail person) had a gun in their purse - it now belongs to the robber. If they (older, frail person) had the gun on their body somewhere, after shaking cobwebs out of their head from being knocked down, the robber would be a hundred yards away and a pistol is not going to hit a target running a hundred yards away - and your life is not in danger anymore so Stand Your Ground is not a defense to shooting.

Best answer is to Be Aware of Your Surroundings. MACE or a gun is not a viable answer."
__________________-

"Actually, if you are aware of your surroundings, have a concealed pistol with the knowledge and license to carry it, this becomes a very viable answer."
________________

I can understand what you are saying BUT remember, the target victims of purse snatchers in a parking lot will probably be the older (late 70's or 80's) and somewhat frail ladies. These ladies will not be likely to be carrying a concealed pistol on their person (not in the purse) nor will they have the reflexes to quickly identify a real robbery about to happen and to have time to pull their pistol and calmly pull the trigger. Remember, shooting in a stressful situation is entirely different than at a gun range.

Just be aware of your surroundings, walk in pairs if possible, and have purse strap over the shoulder - not the neck.

nitehawk 01-14-2014 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TVMayor (Post 810898)
I can not imagine which law change would have changed the outcome of this crime other than “No Running in the Parking Lot”.

:bigbow:


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:41 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.32 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.