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buggyone 01-11-2014 12:40 PM

"Keep aware of your surroundings. Keep cell phone in hand. Practice on your husband kicking them in vulnerable parts......or maybe not."

I guess the moral of this is "Never mess with a lady from Ohio!"

dillywho 01-11-2014 02:41 PM

Dont Be An Easy Target
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 809816)
I am reasonably quick on my feet, but believe me if I had a gun pointed at me I would certainly not start fumbling around for a gun, and trying to get a gun out of my waist band - by that time you would be dead.

BUT, there is another solution - carry a pepper spray in your pocket, or even in your hand as you leave a store, just in case. It would be easy for me to spray the b......d with as much pepper as I could spray rather than try to shoot him.

Amazon.com has Mace Pepper Spray Personal Defense Spray (Hot Pink) for $12.

If you are going to rely on a pepper spray, get a military or police grade one. When you point it at someone, don't aim for their head...aim for the chest and they will instinctively duck into it and you will then hit them in the face. Hint: Be sure they are downwind from you or you will get it, too.

When walking to your car, if you have your purse on your shoulder, walk as close as possible to the car line on the side where your purse is with your purse swung in front of your body, not dangling loose. That makes it much harder for them to drive by and grab. If confronted, throw it as far away from you as you can and throw your keys in the opposite direction or hit the panic button on your remote, if you have one.

Don't put your purse in the front of your vehicle, leave in the top of the basket, or let it dangle from your shoulder while you unload groceries, etc. Put your purse and your keys in the back as near the front as possible and then unload in front of them. All the while, remain vigilant to what is going on around you.

When shopping, I put my purse in the bottom of the cart underneath the child carrier and strap it in. I then put my purchases by the purse, and even on top of it until I check out. It is the last thing at the checkout to come out of the basket. You don't need it until that point, anyway. I keep my grocery list on my phone and my phone in my pocket when I'm not using it; if you use a paper list, you still don't need your purse until you are ready to check out. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES DO I WALK AWAY FROM THE CART. Many times, if I am at Walmart and have to load my own stuff, I put my purse in the cart under my purchases to go out to my car (not on my shoulder), and unload it first putting it in the back nearest the back seat. I just leave it there until I get home when I am going to be coming straight home regardless of where I do my shopping.

Just a few simple suggestions, but keep in mind that these people are looking for the easy targets. Make it as hard as possible for them to target YOU.

graciegirl 01-11-2014 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dillywho (Post 810070)
If you are going to rely on a pepper spray, get a military or police grade one. When you point it at someone, don't aim for their head...aim for the chest and they will instinctively duck into it and you will then hit them in the face. Hint: Be sure they are downwind from you or you will get it, too.

When walking to your car, if you have your purse on your shoulder, walk as close as possible to the car line on the side where your purse is with your purse swung in front of your body, not dangling loose. That makes it much harder for them to drive by and grab. If confronted, throw it as far away from you as you can and throw your keys in the opposite direction or hit the panic button on your remote, if you have one.

Don't put your purse in the front of your vehicle, leave in the top of the basket, or let it dangle from your shoulder while you unload groceries, etc. Put your purse and your keys in the back as near the front as possible and then unload in front of them. All the while, remain vigilant to what is going on around you.

When shopping, I put my purse in the bottom of the cart underneath the child carrier and strap it in. I then put my purchases by the purse, and even on top of it until I check out. It is the last thing at the checkout to come out of the basket. You don't need it until that point, anyway. I keep my grocery list on my phone and my phone in my pocket when I'm not using it; if you use a paper list, you still don't need your purse until you are ready to check out. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES DO I WALK AWAY FROM THE CART. Many times, if I am at Walmart and have to load my own stuff, I put my purse in the cart under my purchases to go out to my car (not on my shoulder), and unload it first putting it in the back nearest the back seat. I just leave it there until I get home when I am going to be coming straight home regardless of where I do my shopping.

Just a few simple suggestions, but keep in mind that these people are looking for the easy targets. Make it as hard as possible for them to target YOU.



YES I DO want to be part of your group! What a helpful post my friend, Dillywho.

jebartle 01-11-2014 03:38 PM

I always wondered if...
 
it is smarter to park as close as you can to store and

if you should put shoulder strap of purse over your head...

Sure would like to know some of the details of this mugging...
Sure hope that she is recovering mentally and physically..

graciegirl 01-11-2014 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 810094)
it is smarter to park as close as you can to store and

if you should put shoulder strap of purse over your head...

Sure would like to know some of the details of this mugging...
Sure hope that she is recovering mentally and physically..


I do too. I feel so bad to read TraceyMoore RN the nurse, post that she had a head injury and a broken pelvis, she was visiting from another country.


AFTER WORKING HARD ALL OF HER LIFE to be able to come here and enjoy her senior time on this earth and some scum who doesn't want to work knocks her down and robs her.


I just want to stomp the livin' crap outa him.

Madelaine Amee 01-11-2014 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dillywho (Post 810070)
If you are going to rely on a pepper spray, get a military or police grade one. When you point it at someone, don't aim for their head...aim for the chest and they will instinctively duck into it and you will then hit them in the face. Hint: Be sure they are downwind from you or you will get it, too.

When walking to your car, if you have your purse on your shoulder, walk as close as possible to the car line on the side where your purse is with your purse swung in front of your body, not dangling loose. That makes it much harder for them to drive by and grab. If confronted, throw it as far away from you as you can and throw your keys in the opposite direction or hit the panic button on your remote, if you have one.

Don't put your purse in the front of your vehicle, leave in the top of the basket, or let it dangle from your shoulder while you unload groceries, etc. Put your purse and your keys in the back as near the front as possible and then unload in front of them. All the while, remain vigilant to what is going on around you.

When shopping, I put my purse in the bottom of the cart underneath the child carrier and strap it in. I then put my purchases by the purse, and even on top of it until I check out. It is the last thing at the checkout to come out of the basket. You don't need it until that point, anyway. I keep my grocery list on my phone and my phone in my pocket when I'm not using it; if you use a paper list, you still don't need your purse until you are ready to check out. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES DO I WALK AWAY FROM THE CART. Many times, if I am at Walmart and have to load my own stuff, I put my purse in the cart under my purchases to go out to my car (not on my shoulder), and unload it first putting it in the back nearest the back seat. I just leave it there until I get home when I am going to be coming straight home regardless of where I do my shopping.

Just a few simple suggestions, but keep in mind that these people are looking for the easy targets. Make it as hard as possible for them to target YOU.

Great post Dillywho, thanks.

TVMayor 01-11-2014 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 810106)
I do too. I feel so bad to read TraceyMoore RN the nurse, post that she had a head injury and a broken pelvis, she was visiting from another country.


AFTER WORKING HARD ALL OF HER LIFE to be able to come here and enjoy her senior time on this earth and some scum who doesn't want to work knocks her down and robs her.


I just want to stomp the livin' crap outa him.

If they could only catch this guy and I could be picked for jury duty. I have a dream.

boomerbaby 01-11-2014 10:19 PM

woman mugged in TJMaxx parking lot
 
I was so upset when I read this in the paper today. I thank all of you on totv for all the great advice and I am taking some. Where can I buy mace around here? Thank you.

kittygilchrist 01-11-2014 11:09 PM

I'll tell you this. In my experience in prison environments, when mace is used, both the shooter of mace and the recipient are incapacitated. It is an aerosol available to every nose in the vicinity. Sticking to my guns.
K.

PR1234 01-12-2014 01:03 PM

FYI parts of The Villages ARE in Lady Lake!!!

TVMayor 01-12-2014 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 809879)
Remember, shooting at someone who has robbed you and is running away is not self defense nor "stand your ground". Also, shooting in a stressful situation is far different than at a target range.

Also, this mugging DID NOT occur IN The Villages. It was technically Lady Lake.

T.J. Maxx
620 US N Highway 441, Rolling Acres Plaza, The Villages
(352) 430-2341

buggyone 01-12-2014 06:45 PM

The designation of The Villages or Lady Lake does not matter. Villagers do a lot of shopping there.

As to the posters who think that a gun is the answer, I would say "WRONG".

A purse snatcher would typically pick a person that he thinks is older and non-athletic. He would run at them from behind, hit them with enough force to knock them down, grab their purse and take off running to a nearby car driven by an accomplice.

The purse snatcher is not going to target a younger looking and athletic looking lady as a victim nor is he going to target a male (no purse). So, those people have little to worry about.

If the victim had a gun in their purse - it now belongs to the robber. If they had the gun on their body somewhere, after shaking cobwebs out of their head from being knocked down, the robber would be a hundred yards away and a pistol is not going to hit a target running a hundred yards away - and your life is not in danger anymore so Stand Your Ground is not a defense to shooting.

Best answer is to Be Aware of Your Surroundings. MACE or a gun is not a viable answer.

donb9006 01-12-2014 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 810766)
The designation of The Villages or Lady Lake does not matter. Villagers do a lot of shopping there.

As to the posters who think that a gun is the answer, I would say "WRONG".

A purse snatcher would typically pick a person that he thinks is older and non-athletic. He would run at them from behind, hit them with enough force to knock them down, grab their purse and take off running to a nearby car driven by an accomplice.

The purse snatcher is not going to target a younger looking and athletic looking lady as a victim nor is he going to target a male (no purse). So, those people have little to worry about.

If the victim had a gun in their purse - it now belongs to the robber. If they had the gun on their body somewhere, after shaking cobwebs out of their head from being knocked down, the robber would be a hundred yards away and a pistol is not going to hit a target running a hundred yards away - and your life is not in danger anymore so Stand Your Ground is not a defense to shooting.

Best answer is to Be Aware of Your Surroundings. MACE or a gun is not a viable answer.

Maybe it's time to change a few laws. I'll leave it at that...

hollander 01-12-2014 10:33 PM

This sad news has bothered me all weekend. I wish there was something we could do for this poor lady, and I wish there was something I could do to this thug.

TVMayor 01-12-2014 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donb9006 (Post 810865)
Maybe it's time to change a few laws. I'll leave it at that...

I can not imagine which law change would have changed the outcome of this crime other than “No Running in the Parking Lot”.


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