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Some stuff here that is wrong. The impact of nitrogen vs. air is minimal because air is 78% nitrogen. It is a profit making upsell to the uninformed. If you have a race car or a plane then you might be able to make a reasonable case for nitrogen. For daily drivers, nope. Regarding rotation, unless the tires are directional tires or the manufacturer specifically doesn't recommend cross-over rotation patterns, a cross-over rotation pattern is fine. I have specifically asked Michelin about this and I have been doing it for decades when I haven't bought directional tires.

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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 1879201)

Nitrogen-nitrogen as a gas has less volume change, pressure change than the mix we call air. You pay extra for nitrogen. You take your car in for service and they top off the pressure. OOPS did they add nitrogen or the air from the hose laying around. You get a flat. You call ????? service. They plug the tire, the nitrogen has leaked out, they will fill it with air. You cannot get all the air out and refill it with nitrogen. It does work-IF.

Rotating your tires.
OPINION-mine. I have my tires rotated front to back and then back to front keeping the tire on the same side of the car. The typical pattern where you cross from side to side,
you case the cross over tire to revolve in the opposite direction from what it was doing.
It can cause failure. It used to be more common than today but I've had tires fail due to this.

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1879164)

You’re aggressively might not be as aggressively as some.

I'll put my aggressively up against anybody's aggressively. :D Still not concerned about any additional tire wear. :)

I usually only go around the circle once to get to the exit I wish. Some folks get on the circle and get lost, causing them to circle around about 50 times or more. I can see how they would have problems with their tires wearing on one side.:gc:

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1879235)

50 times or more? Wow! I hope that's an exaggeration.

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1879233)

I'll put my aggressively up against anybody's aggressively. :D Still not concerned about any additional tire wear. :)

So you lease?

Front tire wear exceeding the rear tires has to do with not balancing the tires, not the traffic circles.
If you think about it, the front tires are rotating on an axis going around a turn whilst the rear tires are still trying to go straight around the turn.

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1879372)

So you lease?

Heheh. Nope. I just know that tire wear due to roundabouts is not enough above normal tire wear to be concerned. :)

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1878810)

that is why i propose: traffic in roundabouts go counter-clockwise on odd days, clockwise on even days.

:a040:

lmao

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Originally Posted by SacDQ (Post 1880309)

lmao

Sarcasm Sheldon, sarcasm. :ohdear:

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1880296)

Heheh. Nope. I just know that tire wear due to roundabouts is not enough above normal tire wear to be concerned. :)

So, gravity and speed has nothing to do with it? I alway wonder why circle track cars replaced all those not worn tires.

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Originally Posted by SugarBear (Post 1880018)

If you take corner too fast the first tires that slides are the front due to centrifugal force, then the back tire come around. The front tires are taking all the force when cornering. Why rotation recommended especially on front wheel drive cars.

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1880652)

:bigbow:

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1880649)

So, gravity and speed has nothing to do with it?...

Your words. Not mine. I never said that.

LOL! on rotating tires on a front wheel drive car! I have driven front wheel drive cars since 1980, and never rotated tires once. All cars were driven at least 120K-140K miles.

Fact: front wheel drive cars front tires wear out faster than the rear wheel tires, by a ratio of between 3 to 5 x.
Fact: you can't change that wear ratio by rotating tires.

Rotating tires just evens out the wear so that you buy 4 new tires at the same time.
Not rotating tires means that you wear out the front tires, and replace only the front tires.

The killer is all wheel drive all the time. The front and rear do not wear at the same rate due to turning, and to any differential issues in keeping the turning rates identical. So frequent rotation is highly recommended. I did not rotate the subaru tires frequently enough, and never got more than 40K miles out of a 60K rated tire, either front or back.

I do not recommend driving all wheel drive cars in florida