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sharonl7340 08-19-2020 08:16 AM

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Fenster 08-19-2020 08:18 AM

Thank you
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 1819623)
Somewhat surprisingly, the three candidates that challenged the three developer-supported Incumbents for positions as Sumter County Commissioners won the Republican Primary convincingly. The challengers will have to win the General Election in November, and there will be lots of developer-designed and funded challenges, probably for write-in candidates. The upcoming weeks will be interesting as this will be the first time in at least a decade when the Sumter County Board won’t be cleanly “in the pocket” of The Villages Developer.

What’s at risk for the Developer? Lots of things. Without a lot of study, how about...

—A repeal of the major change which has the new roads and infrastructure in the new southern end of The Villages funded by the taxpayers rather than the Developer as had been the practice until this year. The result of the change was a 25% increase in property taxes. The challengers all ran with the repeal of those tax increases as a major plank in their platforms.

—The possible repeal of the “One Sumter” procedure for the election of County Commissioners. The change in the electoral process goes back almost fifteen years and was designed and sponsored by the Developer. The result of the electoral change was that the County Board could be controlled by three members, all of whom have turned out to be choices of the Developer and financed by them. The result of course was pretty much complete control of the Board in getting anything the Developer wanted approved.

—There are lots of other decisions facing the County Commissioners that will effect all Villages residents living in Sumter County (the vast majority of us). Not the least important issue might be approval of the re-zoning of the Hacienda Hills CC parcel to permit the construction of a high-rise 286-unit apartment building.

So it’ll probably be important for all of us to begin to pay lots more attention to local Sumter County politics. You can be certain that the Developer will be very creative approaching the General Election and beyond, trying to regain control of the Sumter County Board. Keeping local politics in the control of the taxpayers will take our collective, continual attention.


KEEP BEATING THE DRUM!
Great post.
Many of the proposed plans are bad for the residents. Pure money grabs. Enough already!

Stu from NYC 08-19-2020 08:28 AM

Hopefully the developer will see what has happened and return to the days of yesteryear.

Cbriggi 08-19-2020 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1819662)
I though that Hacienda Hills CC was in Lake county.

No all of hacienda hills buildings and three golf courses are in Sumter County. Although the golf course does abut lake county.

Topspinmo 08-19-2020 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1819852)
Hopefully the developer will see what has happened and return to the days of yesteryear.

Not going to happen, the king is gone.

Carla B 08-19-2020 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1819752)
Just remember, you can still vote Democrat in all general elections. And (as I discovered too late) if there's a primary with one party running with no other party opposing it, you can vote in that primary no matter what your affiliation is.

In other words:

If the Republican party has 3 candidates running and there's a Primary to determine which one gets the nomination..

and if there is no Democrat running for that particular position...

then the primary becomes a "universal primary" and every registered voter in the district can vote for that primary.

I don't understand. As far as I know, Florida is a closed primary state. Just in order to vote in this primary many of us went through the process of changing from NPA, Democrat, or whatever, to Republican.

rmd2 08-19-2020 09:07 AM

Yeaaa! Congratulations to Estep, Miller and Search in winning the Sumter County Commissioner positions.
In 2020 two more Sumter County Commissioner persons need to be removed - vote out Developer puppets--Breeden and Gilpin. These Commissioners treated us like DIRT when they raised our taxes by 25% and ignored us in meetings when we tried to discuss it. Whenever there is a case of expenses to be paid it's better for US to pay for them rather than the Developer - right Breeden and Gilpin? You're next to go!

merrymini 08-19-2020 09:18 AM

Florida is a closed primary state. That means that if you are not affiliated with either party, you cannot vote in a primary. There should be a referendum on the November ballot for Florida to become a open primary state, allowing independents to vote in primaries. I will vote for this because, I believe, independents have the right to vote in primaries just like everyone else.

New Englander 08-19-2020 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrymini (Post 1819904)
Florida is a closed primary state. That means that if you are not affiliated with either party, you cannot vote in a primary. There should be a referendum on the November ballot for Florida to become a open primary state, allowing independents to vote in primaries. I will vote for this because, I believe, independents have the right to vote in primaries just like everyone else.

:agree:

PennBF 08-19-2020 09:38 AM

Recall
 
Is there a "Recall" procedure in Florida, where in case you have an elected official that is not truly representing the people can be recalled? I am thinking of the last 2 Commissioner's which we are stuck with until 2022?:ohdear:

jojo 08-19-2020 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toeser (Post 1819782)
No, they won't. One is my neighbor and he is loaded with integrity. You should not post things like that about people you do not know.

I also have a neighbor with the highest integrity who was elected and agree with your response. He is not anti-developer but will not be bought. He does not have an agenda other than serving the people.

KRM0614 08-19-2020 09:59 AM

Most importantly controlling the message to the residents, the public and nationally.

EviesGP 08-19-2020 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jojo (Post 1819937)
I also have a neighbor with the highest integrity who was elected and agree with your response. He is not anti-developer but will not be bought. He does not have an agenda other than serving the people.

I third this statement! I am friends with one of them, as well. And, he is not anti-developer. He just wants honesty and integrity. Something that was CLEARLY lacking with these folks.

I love TV, and all that is has to offer. I am grateful for what Morse and Schwartz did, and look forward to the future here. I am not against them making money(as much as possible), and capitalism itself. I would, if I could. But, IMO, the impact fees associated with the expansion and build-out should be paid by the developer, not the tax payers. And, the developer should try to recoup those expenses, by pricing that into the sale of the homes. That's how it works everywhere else that I know of, and it should here. This is the first place that I've seen where you have a mortgage, and then assume a bond, for the build(which occurred years before)? Just my opinion. Thanks!

njbchbum 08-19-2020 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnsre (Post 1819743)
I think Hacienda Hills is in Lake County

Not according to Sumter County tax record!
Owner's Name THE VILLAGES OPERATING COMPANY
Site Address 1200 MORSE BLVD, LADY LAKE, FL 32159
Mail Address 3619 KIESSEL RD, THE VILLAGES, FL 32163
Use Desc. (code) CLUB / LODGE / UNION HALL (07700)

Ndomines 08-19-2020 10:40 AM

Commissioners election result
 
After seeing the past performances of the Commissioners Open meetings is it any wonder they got the boot?
Apparently they forgot that it’s the people not special interests they represent. OR maybe they never forgot who they represent.
KUDOS to the developers for all they have accomplished I only wish they had lived up to the promise of the small town, age restricted lifestyle as envisioned by Mr Schwartz.
Now we have URBAN SPRAWL.
Traffic jams, people living in The Villages who are under 40 with very loud mufflers on their motorcycles, pounding sub woofers going by in their loud cars, everyday lawn mowers running that never seem to get the neighbors lawns done. When we bought our home, and like so many others, we were told this is the last of new construction.
It’s impossible to turn back the clock but it is possible stop the lies and get about the business of
Making sure folks get what they paid for.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 1819623)
Somewhat surprisingly, the three candidates that challenged the three developer-supported Incumbents for positions as Sumter County Commissioners won the Republican Primary convincingly. The challengers will have to win the General Election in November, and there will be lots of developer-designed and funded challenges, probably for write-in candidates. The upcoming weeks will be interesting as this will be the first time in at least a decade when the Sumter County Board won’t be cleanly “in the pocket” of The Villages Developer.

What’s at risk for the Developer? Lots of things. Without a lot of study, how about...

—A repeal of the major change which has the new roads and infrastructure in the new southern end of The Villages funded by the taxpayers rather than the Developer as had been the practice until this year. The result of the change was a 25% increase in property taxes. The challengers all ran with the repeal of those tax increases as a major plank in their platforms.

—The possible repeal of the “One Sumter” procedure for the election of County Commissioners. The change in the electoral process goes back almost fifteen years and was designed and sponsored by the Developer. The result of the electoral change was that the County Board could be controlled by three members, all of whom have turned out to be choices of the Developer and financed by them. The result of course was pretty much complete control of the Board in getting anything the Developer wanted approved.

—There are lots of other decisions facing the County Commissioners that will effect all Villages residents living in Sumter County (the vast majority of us). Not the least important issue might be approval of the re-zoning of the Hacienda Hills CC parcel to permit the construction of a high-rise 286-unit apartment building.

So it’ll probably be important for all of us to begin to pay lots more attention to local Sumter County politics. You can be certain that the Developer will be very creative approaching the General Election and beyond, trying to regain control of the Sumter County Board. Keeping local politics in the control of the taxpayers will take our collective, continual attention.



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