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Tmarkwald 05-12-2021 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1943175)
They have experimented with mRNA vaccines for 20 years.
This is quote is directly from the link you provided:
“The extra boost from the urgency of the pandemic and the government funding they received allowed them to conduct large-scale clinical trials at almost the same time that they were tweaking their formulations. By the time Moderna and Pfizer submitted their data to the Food and Drug Administration for Emergency Use Authorization, about 30,000 people in the Moderna trial (including my wife) and over 43,000 in the Pfizer trial had received the vaccine.”
That’s it. There have been no long term trials. The FACT is that NO ONE knows if there will be any long term side effects from the vaccine.

Well, there HAVE been long term trials from NOT getting the vaccine.

600,000 non-vaccinated Americans have DIED.

Take your pick!

Swoop 05-12-2021 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Tmarkwald (Post 1943187)
Well, there HAVE been long term trials from NOT getting the vaccine.

600,000 non-vaccinated Americans have DIED.

Take your pick!

If I was in the high risk category, I would have gotten the vaccine. According to the CDC, based on all people my age, the chances of me being hospitalized with Covid is 266.3 in 100,000. That’s .00266. Also according to the CDC 87% of those hospitalized were obese or overweight, I am neither. That drops my odds to .000346. Also according to the CDC, those hospitalized had an average of 2.4 of these preexisting conditions; heart disease, lung disease, diabetes or hypertension. Since I also have none of those issues, the chances of me being hospitalized with Covid are considerably less than .000346.
I choose not to accept the long term uncertainty based on my odds. Enjoy your cruise...

Tmarkwald 05-12-2021 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1943175)
They have experimented with mRNA vaccines for 20 years. There have been no long term trials. The FACT is that NO ONE knows if there will be any long term side effects from the vaccine.

Human trials of cancer vaccines using the same mRNA technology have been taking place since 2011. "If there was a real problem with the technology, we'd have seen it before now for sure," said Prof. Goldman.

Because the technology can be deployed extremely rapidly, and clinical trials have been so successful, mRNA platforms will be an important means of preparing for future epidemics, he says.

Five things you need to know about: mRNA vaccine safety

Swoop 05-12-2021 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Tmarkwald (Post 1943261)
Human trials of cancer vaccines using the same mRNA technology have been taking place since 2011. "If there was a real problem with the technology, we'd have seen it before now for sure," said Prof. Goldman.

Because the technology can be deployed extremely rapidly, and clinical trials have been so successful, mRNA platforms will be an important means of preparing for future epidemics, he says.

Five things you need to know about: mRNA vaccine safety

Very, very small phase 1 trials. Virtually no historical data. I like my odds. Enjoy your cruise.

Tmarkwald 05-13-2021 09:40 AM

"For somebody who's already been fully vaccinated, they can wear the mask out of solidarity or in a symbolic sense, but their wearing a mask indoors is not benefiting anyone else," explained Vinay Prasad, an epidemiologist and biostatistician at the University of California, San Francisco (UCSF).

"There's an infinitesimally low probability of even having an infection that can be detected on a PCR test, let alone being able to spread it to someone," he added

Most indoor mask guidelines may be on way out in U.S., experts say


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