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manaboutown 06-25-2021 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by WindyCityzen (Post 1964910)
What a hoot. You say Socialism? What about libraries, fire and police departments, parks, or your free Covid shot? Republicans love to attack “socialism,” but are total hypocrites in doing so.
This is a false statement.

LoriL 06-25-2021 11:44 AM
Decide for yourself after living here awhile
 
I agree that some do not like the fact that the current generation has not respected the wishes of their elders. That does not mean they do not like it here. The Villages is fabulous, but it is getting rather large. During the season, it gets. more and more difficult to get into restaurants, etc. I do not think this has anything to do with jealousy.

dewilson58 06-25-2021 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by LoriL (Post 1964944)
I agree that some of us do not like the fact that the current generation has not respected the wishes of their elders.

The Villages is fabulous, but it is getting too big.
A FEW elders................most love the excitement and growth of TV.

Too big??...........your opinion. So you want a land development company to stop developing. :ohdear:

paultkdski 06-25-2021 12:17 PM
love it
 
I retired 3 years ago.. but googled the secret to happiness… It boils down to: low expectations. That’s right… be thankful and enjoy.

People that complain about the fees don’t see how litte you get elsewhere… People that complain about growth, dont realize how little it affects them… I’d love the complainers to either volunteer or vote with their moving vans….

tovliteuser 06-25-2021 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by LieutenantEd (Post 1964923)
Within our large circle of Villages friends over the past few years two couples moved away (to other retirement communities in Florida) for what they perceived as “more desirable location”. Both have moved back to The Villages!
Those two couples figured out what most of us already knew. Hands down, there is no better place to retire in Florida or anywhere else in the US. I knew it the first time I visited as a renter in 2017 and I know it now as an owner. Not perfect, mind you, just the best. I feel the same way about capitalism. It's the very worst form of government - except for all the rest.

Juliebythesea 06-25-2021 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Kcwombat (Post 1964495)
I’m new to TV, having moved here in September. I see frequent references to the developer on these forums, and a lot of them are really negative. I’m really curious as to what the cause of the negativity might be. I don’t know much about the politics of The Villages, but would love to hear (read) what you all think. So far I’m still in my honeymoon stage here. Looking forward to your input, and now, off to golf!

I love it here. I don’t care what they may have promised regarding expanding. It’s a business and businesses are designed to make money. I’m delighted with everything Don’t see why people are complaining

carpej 06-25-2021 01:25 PM
We love living here. Most of the people that we know or have run across at the restaurants, golf courses, clubs , etc. seem to feel the same way. If you consider 120000 or more residents, notice how few are complaining. And if you boil it down many of the negatives are somewhat political in nature. In all very few individuals are actually complaining. My only opinion on the Developers is that they seem to give us quality and variety.

DaleDivine 06-25-2021 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Juliebythesea (Post 1964974)
I love it here. I don’t care what they may have promised regarding expanding. It’s a business and businesses are designed to make money. I’m delighted with everything Don’t see why people are complaining
I'm with you Julie. I love it here as well. Tons of golf courses (and lots more coming) which was my main reason for moving here. I play a different golf course almost every day. Not like some of the other retirement communities with only one or two courses that you play over and over.
:bigbow::bigbow:

Curtisbwp 06-25-2021 02:05 PM
My wife and I have been here since 2003 and are very happy.
People have a tendency to dislike, sight unseen, people who have money that they do not have. The village residents lean on the management to solve ALL OF THEIR PROBLEMS. THE developer is a house builder and seller, Not a Mayor. Most do not even know what town they live in.

Aloha1 06-25-2021 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1964632)
The person who originally developed the Villages is dead, and has been dead for a long time. His son-in-law, who took over, is also dead, and has been dead for several years.

"The Developers" are not the same developers who developed this community. The current batch of developers have a completely different vision for the community than the one you dealt with when you moved in. The current batch of developers didn't even have pubic hairs yet when their father took over the business, so no they haven't been doing this for 20 years.
The original developer was Harold Schwartz. He started TV with Orange Blossom Gardens in the mid 70's. His SON, Gary Morse came on board in 1983 and headed the company until his death in 2014. His son, Mark, Harold's grandson, took over in 2014 as President but had worked for the company before that and heads the company today. Both Harold and Gary were visionaries. Mark is no different. You roll with the times or you get rolled up. Keeping TV a viable place for retirees keeps our home values up. So, yeah, Mark Morse has been involved with TV for more than 20 years.

Aloha1 06-25-2021 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by KRMACK55 (Post 1964728)
The villages sales staff have been less than ethical and are very aggressive in getting folks to buy here. Your vote is meaningless in the 3 counties. It’s not enough to keep some of us here and I’m hoping my sale goes through. There is a sense of entitlement here and that’s not who I am. To those who were kind to me the last 2 years i am grateful.
I get it and good move. Obviously you are not happy here and you chose the wise choice to move. Good luck with that. But please stop throwing shade as you leave.

Aloha1 06-25-2021 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by LoriL (Post 1964944)
I agree that some do not like the fact that the current generation has not respected the wishes of their elders. That does not mean they do not like it here. The Villages is fabulous, but it is getting rather large. During the season, it gets. more and more difficult to get into restaurants, etc. I do not think this has anything to do with jealousy.
Restaurants will come if the need is there. Patience, grasshopper.

npwalters 06-25-2021 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Dilligas (Post 1964677)
We have been here for 10 years and love it because of the vision for a different retirement community. I have never heard any of the developer’s family make any “promises”. In fact they generally don’t announce anything until it is signed sealed and in the works. No good business person would make any “promise”, because they can not control the future. Most of the so called broken promises are just good business decisions. Katie Belles and Hacienda Country Club were closed because of poor management and loss of patron business. The developer generally only owns the property and leases the business. When the property fails, attempts were made to correct, but it continued to fail. Now they are complaining because they don’t want change. Compare TV to Sun City Florida and you will see why we like the developer, hope they continue.
The fact that YOU didn't hear it does not make it false. Come talk to the long time residents near the Hacienda area. A pledge/promise made by a organization does not become void just because the leadership changed. New leadership just chose to break it.

oldtimes 06-25-2021 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 1965013)
The fact that YOU didn't hear it does not make it false. Come talk to the long time residents near the Hacienda area. A pledge/promise made by a organization does not become void just because the leadership changed. New leadership just chose to break it.
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OrangeBlossomBaby 06-25-2021 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1964951)
A FEW elders................most love the excitement and growth of TV.

Too big??...........your opinion. So you want a land development company to stop developing. :ohdear:
LoriL is talking about the current generation of the family running the Developer corporation not respecting the generation that used to be in charge of it, but are now too busy being dead to reprimand them for going against their wishes.


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