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Old 10-29-2007, 01:07 AM
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I heard there are a few new Villages where the residents are much younger..Does any one know which villages these are? This might be just a rumor, no clue :dontknow:
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:29 AM
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As far as I know they are spread around. Some are adult children that live with their age qualified parent(s). Some of the residents are not 55. They got in under some obscure rule about a % group. Personally that sucks. But after living here for 6 years I find that rules can be bent for the developer's desires.
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:36 PM
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Florida LAW says to be designated a 55+ Adult Community you have to have at least 80% of the homes occupied by one person 55 or older. Developer has nothing to do with that law.
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Old 10-29-2007, 04:53 PM
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There is a misconception as to the 80% must be over 55. The law states that:

l. A resident or tenant occupying a home must be 55 or older (a spouse can be any age.)

2. An owner can be under 55 but can only spend a few weeks per year.

3. The developer can make a hardship exception, but in no case can the number of 55 and younger be LESS THAN 80%. That is where the misconception comes in. Three years ago I filed a complaint with Mr. Morse and his attorney that the Villages Sales Dept. was selling to ones under 55. They both agreed that this was wrong and he would notify the Sales Dept. At time, the practice was supposed to have ended. (that doesn't mean there aren't slip ups.

4. Since the deed restrictions spell this out, you can notify the district office of any violations....they will follow through. I know, because I filed a complaint and the tenant had to move out.
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Old 10-29-2007, 04:59 PM
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A correction on my message. Item 3 should have read "the number of residents 55 or older can never be less than 80%", therefore limiting the number of hardship exceptions that can be given by the developer.
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Old 10-29-2007, 05:07 PM
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Are you saying that you caused a resident to sell their home (or a tenant to move) because they were under 55?
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Old 10-29-2007, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: Younger Residents

Found this on the net. Says nothing about "spending only a few weeks."
Requirements for a community to be considered "housing for older persons":

A: The housing is specifically designed and operated to assist elderly persons and is intended for, and solely occupied by, persons 62 years of age or older

B: The housing is intended and operated for occupancy by persons 55 years of age or older and meet the following requirements:

At least 80% of the occupied units are occupied by at least one person 55 years of age or older.
The facility or community publishes and adheres to policies and procedures that demonstrate its intent to in fact be a provider of housing for older persons
The facility or community complies with rules established by HUD for verification of occupancy
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Old 10-29-2007, 05:34 PM
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i was only 51 when i purchased my tv home. i believe my sales rep had to file special papers but i never saw them nor has my living here ever come up as an issue.
the percent over 55 requirement is the only state reg i was ever aware of.
i'm over 55 now.
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Old 10-29-2007, 05:41 PM
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Someone published the actual law earlier on TOTV. If anyone is interested, do a search and you should find it.
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Old 10-29-2007, 05:52 PM
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This should put to rest any "misconceptions":

The Housing for Older Persons Act of
1995 (Pub. L. 10476, 109 Stat. 787,
approved December 28, 1995) (HOPA)
revised the definition of the original
exemption contained in the Act for
housing designed and operated for
occupancy by persons who are 55 years
of age of older. Section 2 of HOPA
redefined this portion of the exemption
to describe housing:
(C) Intended and operated for occupancy
by persons 55 years of age or older, and
(i) At least 80 percent of the occupied units
are occupied by at least one person who is
55 years of age or older;
(ii) The housing facility or community
publishes and adheres to policies and
procedures that demonstrate the intent
required under this subparagraph; and
(iii) The housing facility or community
complies with rules issued by the Secretary
[of HUD] for verification of occupancy,
which shall
(I) Provide for verification by reliable
surveys and affidavits; and
(II) Include examples of the types of
policies and procedures relevant to a
determination of compliance with the
requirement of clause (ii). Such surveys and
affidavits shall be admissible in
administrative and judicial proceedings for
the purposes of such verification.

The new requirements under HOPA
are equivalent to the original provisions
of the Fair Housing Act. Like the
original section 807(b)(C) of the Act,
HOPA requires that a facility or
community seeking to claim the 55 and
older exemption show three factors: (1)
That the housing be intended and
operated for persons 55 years of age or
older; (2) that at least 80 percent of the
occupied units be occupied by at least
one person who is 55 years of age or
older; and (3) the housing facility or
community publish and adhere to
policies and procedures that
demonstrate its intent to qualify for the
exemption. The housing facility or
community must also comply with rules
issued by HUD for the verification of
occupancy.

....yet someone was forced to leave The Villages because they were not 55???
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Old 10-29-2007, 05:55 PM
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check the Fl state link:

http://fchr.state.fl.us/fchr/resourc...g/requirements

It clearly states "At least 80% of the occupied units are occupied by at leat one person 55 years of age or older"

Welcome baby boomers

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Old 10-29-2007, 05:58 PM
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Let's remember that a community of this size NEEDS to use that 20% max exception for the benefit of the other residents.

Take my case for example:

I am becoming an RN shortly and I wish to work at TVRH within the next few years. I am currently 'only' 50. With the growth of TVRH and other community based health facilities there is a great need for RN's and other professional healh care members. If no exceptions were made for under 55 then the hospital would have less clout in trying to recruit new workers. I have a small number of friends and relatives in TV and my wife and i will be down there in about 3 years. I can only hope that the exceptions are still used.

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Old 10-31-2007, 01:59 AM
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Everyone seems to know the benefits or tax implications of being a 55+ community. Can someone enlighten me? Since we seem to pay our share of school taxes, where is the tax advantages of living in TV or do they accrue only to the developer? George
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Old 10-31-2007, 02:04 AM
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Where in this post did we talk about TAX advantages?

Just wondering.
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Old 10-31-2007, 02:53 PM
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Good day , I am 65+ AND MY WIFE IS 52, We are looking to move to the TV, My wife has her own business so we can live any were we would like to. She will probably be the one buying the house so i would hope that that i could move there before she turn 55. And i believe that this will be no problem.
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