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This is very interesting since there was a post not too far back about owning a gun. I don't want to turn this in a gun thread, but TV doesn't have a wall.

I consider TV to be a "Soft" target. By that I mean:

1. Age. Not everyone is in their 20s.
2. Everyone trusts everyone else. We're one big happy family (check the number of golf clubs on carts and open garage doors)
3. Most don't own a gun or think they need one.
4. TV is open to the public. Anyone can drive through. All they need is a truck with a contractor's name on the side.
5. Look at Wall Street. The haves and have nots. Which do you look like to someone on the outside of TV? Nice house, nice car, golf cart etc.

I could go on, but you get the point. Just because it's retirement community doesn't mean it's safe from all crime. I just saw a thread about someone steeling down spouts during the day in TV. Metal sales are way up.

Ran out of room. I like the younger people. Some will be great and some won't. But that's the way it is. If you get some younger neighbors, I hope their good ones.

I just don't think you putyour head in the sand and think that nothing can happen in TV.

My two cents. Flame suit is on. Let me have it.

I think it's time we all stopped cracking jokes about these things..............:shocked:

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Bill :)

Blame Gracie! She's the one who threatened to expose "the crack"! I suppose these young-uns might be "Crack Pots"?? :confused:

:clap2: Hope they are listening. I see jokes about it mostly here.

Ok, now y'all are cracking me up.

No, The Villages is not 100% crime free but it is safer than any other area of the country I have ever heard of. Where else can someone feel 100% safe walking on deserted streets after midnight or driving in a golf cart along a cart path that is unlit through woodsy areas?

I can only think of one violent crime in the 2 years I have been here and that was a domestic shooting between wife and husband in their home.

You will see a rude person once in a great while but no fighting. The crowds at the town squares are very pleasant. I actually like to see the teens around Spanish Springs - all are non-threatening and basically it is a great safe environment for them to be in.

Very few robberies from golf carts except when parked in large lots at the edges of The Villages.

This is truly the best place you can imagine to live.

I didn't mean to imply that these young people were committing crimes in The Villages. From what little is reported in the Police Blotter it seems that most of their crimes happen outside. I have no issue having well-behaved kids of any age here visiting. The issue I have is with immature kids in their 20s and 30s who live here with parents or grandparents. Some are involved with drugs and the next thing we know WE could be burglarized for enough money to buy a bag of "crack"....Oops, I said it again!

I agree with a lot of what you say, except the part about robberies from golf carts. We've been here 5-6 years, and there has been a continual problem with theft from golf carts - mostly theft of golf clubs, and for awhile there was a rash of thefts of the actual carts. People tend to leave their carts outside the country clubs when they go in for a drink or for lunch, and come out and find stuff missing. There have been many threads posted about these thefts and what people are doing to deter them. Suggestion - just don't be complacent about it. Cover your clubs up, or lock them, and don't leave anything valuable like a range finder, sky caddie, or woman's purse on the cart when you're not there.

Increase in crime (?)
 

Like anything else, this needs to be stopped before it gets out of hand. Therefore, seriously, where do we begin?

You are so right of course but as Bogie Shooter points out, there isn't anything we can do about it. You can't write rules for this kind of stuff. You can't have all residents kids take drug tests. Most residents are good examples and their kids are great and are staying with them until they find a job or go back to college.

We all have friends whose kids are not great because the friends overprotect and enable them and there are bound to be folks like this in TV too. Some kids are just rotten apples and the parents have been struggling with it all along. Just not an easy answer and a perplexing one for The Villages as there aren't social programs geared for younger people here.

It is a problem and thank heavens almost all of us don't work and we are like a huge army of neighborhood watch and we are watching out for each other.

Perhaps a group of residents could start by visiting with the Sheriff. They tend to listen when voters complain. I'm not a resident or owner, but still in the decision process. Unless things improve I'll be a "Mighthavebeen".

It is sad that you might make a decision not to become a resident because of this thread, populated by doomsday remarks.
A meeting with the sheriff may just point out this "problem" is not as big as some folks believe it is. This is not to say we do not or will not have crime.........but fearful of moving here or going out at night,,,,I think not.

I agree with Bogie Shooter. As a wannabee, I have felt safe when in TV on my visits. No one can guarantee that one will be safe 100% all of the time or there will be no crimes ever committed. I would certainly take TV over where I have lived or presently live.

As with anything else especially driving , "one must be alert to their surroundings".

Considerations
 

It is probably very difficult to determine who and when a younger person
in The Villages will commit a crime. Is it possible to deny them and their
sponsoring resident from receiving the residency/guest passes. No access
to the pools, rec centers, etc. If a felony is involved then it would certaintly
be appropriate to remove the priveleges The Villages offer. As I understand
it using the facilities of THe Villages is a privelege and not a "right"?
There has to be consequences from these acts of criminal behavior. Not to
have consequences it is almost being an enabler since the violator knows
they can continue and also enjoy THe Villages facilities.
I would guess that knowing your priveleges along with your resident sponsors
would be denied would give some a second thought before proceeding to
be a criminal. :popcorn:

We are well into our fourth year here, now year around residents and have never personally run into any person who has been a law breaker or known personally of anyone else who did know of any....Just saying.

But you read the police blotter and most of the crimes that do happen in TV...and there aren't many are caused by kids.

I re-read this thread and what I read between the lines from most stems from the marketing of the villages. Marketing people either implied or inferred that you would be buying "exclusivity". There was a belief by many prospective residents that this was a golf cart gated community for those over 55 only and that The Villages belonged to thm town centers and all. I remember one of the marketing people who took us on a trolley ride saying we love to have our kids visit but it is nice to see their taillights leaving our driveway.

But the reality is that we are a community of 88,000 people and when the building is finished will be in excess of 105,000. By any standard that is not a small city. Add to that it is confined to some 35 square miles. Anyone can ride through and/or visit here. Local people attend events at the town centers. People rent for a week, a month a year at a time. 20% of the population can be under 55 and purchase a home.

So I am surprised that so many people are surprised by some of the goings on.
It is true that the crime rate is lower than most places. Even in the richest neighborhoods in the country bad things happen to good people. Essentially we are no different then any other community in America.

What and how many??

Well said. Before we purchased we knew that TV was not perfect, but we also knew that no place is perfect. We don't call TV "paradise," we call it "paradise with warts." Yet we still love it, warts and all.

My wife and I managed a large properity at one time a if a member of the house hold was involved in a crime or arrested for what ever they were forced to sell and move. Dont know if that can be done here.

Lets see, we could set up a little court room over in the Savana Center. Cuff'm up and bring'm........wave a little pixie dust and move them out with all their possessions.
Your thought process makes no sense.

This all sounds like a GREAT plan... Until you brought up the "pixie dust'

Bogie.... Pixie dust????

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Sometimes I wish the golf courses would use this site http://florida.arrests.org/ when letting outsiders in. This also helps when using contractors and employees. I even found someone in a very close proximity from me in here. This site in my estimation helps a lot. The people using our golf couse where caught robbing homes. They were very much senior to my surprise. One would break in and open the garage and the other got his pick up truck after a cell phone call and had the other open the garage and close the door. Guess they had a good day of golfing.

This is a very unusual site....with "hotties" and "hunks"?????????? That is actually what is says...I am not being cute.

Man, now that is some scary mug shots, to be sure!!!

Pixie dust is used to promote positive, happy and magical thoughts...it's kind of like Santa...a state of mind...I will bring some down at the end of the month! :icon_wink:

Bring buckets. Some of our friends on here need a little.

I'm going to a Halloween party next week. I think I'll go as a "Younger Villager" :a040:

omg say it ain't so.

BUT....I do have to say this Mike.

You won't need a costume.

Whoa, now that's scary!:22yikes:

I have been tempted to post to this thread for days, but have managed to suppress the desire until now. Seriously Posh? TV has to be one of the most safe and secure cities of it's size, or any size, on the face of the earth! There may be some crime perpetrated by younger people (whatever that means), but the crime blotter for a month would not make a good day in most places this size. If you want to go to a place that has less crime than
TV, you will probably have to check into a John Knox Village or some similar environment - no thanks! Many of you are reasonable, but some of you sound like the old grouch profanely running the neighborhood kids off his lawn. If the author of Leisureville reads this thread he will probably be motivated to write another book.

OMG that costume sold out, I got the last one and it fits just right. :1rotfl::1rotfl:

Here is my original post on the subject of younger people living here. Somehow this thread ran off into the ditch. I never talked about these younger folks committing any crimes IN The Villages, nor did I mention any one, of any age committing crimes IN The Villages. All I wanted to know was how folks felt about kids in their 20s and 30s living here. There is little crime here, as far as I know. We can't tell from reading the Daily Sun. The crimes that young people commit seem to happen OUT of The Villages. Is this the same place I moved to in 1998? No! Would I choose The Villages if I had it to do over again? Absolutely!

After reading all of this, my question is... How many "young" people actually live in The Villages.

To say that people sound like grouchy old folks running the kids off their I don't think is a fair assessment.

If I want to live with young kid, I would just stay here. We have plenty of them here! One of the reasons I want to live in The Villages is to live with people my own age. As the kids hot rod up and down our streets (they've taken out our mailbox more times then I could count) hubby and I look at each other and say; "can't wait to get to The Villages".

I want to live with active people my own age. Maybe young kids make some feel young... They just make me feel old.

I posted some of The Village videos on my FB page and trust me.... Those "young kids" thought they were silly old people. That does not make me feel young.

The Villages is advertised as a "retirement community", not a family community or a young peoples community.

To what Villagesflorida said, when we first saw The Villages, most of the people who worked there were villagers. You didn't see the young people working in the shops and stores. It was nice to see that so many of the people who lived in The Villages were able to find jobs and supplement their income. When we were here last summer, we saw very little of that.

When were were looking for a place to retire, we walked out of several communities because there were too many young people there.

Well... There you have it. You asked.

Um, Mike... Halloween is not a "come as you are" party.
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Very well said :bigbow:

I suppose the only acceptable young people who could satisfy some here would be those that are like they were when they were that age....right?

The negatives regarding the "young" are again, as usual, extrapolation of isolated incidences to the point they are common every day experiences. They are not. Just merely what is chosen to dwell upon in a negative way.

Remember the young are the ones who wear the police uniform or the EMT's and ambulance folks and the firefighters....and they are the ones who come forward to lift a burning car off someone trapped underneath it.
I enjoy the company of my peers and delight in the presence of those on their way to our stage of life.

btk

A very good point.....I agree.

another one that gets it... thanks billethkid.