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Old 03-17-2017, 05:38 AM
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Some folks are passionate on this subject. I'll just interject here to keep things correct.

1) They do not use blown in insulation in the walls. I do believe that the wall insulation in the block homes is less than the wood frame homes.

2) The ceilings in all Villages homes built now is a either blown in or batt, or a combination, rated at an R-30. Personally, if I were on the younger side and planned on keeping my home long term, I would blow some additional insulation, perhaps up to an R-38, as found in many other new homes around here....Just my opinion, as insulation is pretty cheap here.

3) The building codes have gotten a lot stricter since Hurricane Andrew....so one cannot really compare those homes to the newer ones. Indeed, it WAS Hurricane Andrew that showed us all that the codes needed to be stricter. Also, we are in a different risk area, (for now) than in the Miami/Dade county area.

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I live in block CYV. I'm still young enough to do most maintenance. I sealed and painted my house cost was 3 to 4 gallons of paint. Tub of sealer and about 14 hours labor rolling it on. So IMO if you can roll paint not that expensive to paint. Now if you have contractor do it with the deluted spray paint figure 5 to 7 grand. As mentioned little harder to upgrade and hang stuff. Also reception for AM radio is near non existent unless you run antenna. I feel safer in block home coming from Oklahoma. Tornados usually not as big or often here, but when hiding in the closet at least have walls protection unless it cat 3 or bigger. In Oklahoma I've seen nothing left except concrete slabs. Even sucked assault off the streets.
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Siding is less expensive to purchase. It would take many months IMHO to make up the difference in price to purchase by potential electric savings. Also, you have to paint stucco. I'm a siding person. Does it show?
If you are speaking about vinyl siding -- yes -- that is less expensive than building a concrete block & stucco house.
However, depending upon what siding is used, wood siding is far more costly than CBS.
There are some houses in Florida which are stucco over frame.
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Old 03-18-2017, 08:54 AM
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Wonder what Mr. Frank would have to say about hardi-plank siding over frame ?
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If you are speaking about vinyl siding -- yes -- that is less expensive than building a concrete block & stucco house.
However, depending upon what siding is used, wood siding is far more costly than CBS.
There are some houses in Florida which are stucco over frame.
In Stonecrest, but not here in The Villages.
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This is the first home I've owned that was siding. First the insulation is way superior to CBS (cement block, stucco). I like having it pressure cleaned over expensive sealing and painting. I do like the looks of CBS homes over siding, looks richer. Also I felt safer in hurricanes in CBS but no longer live near to the coast and hope that will make up the difference in strength.
My peeve in this area is outside doors that open in. This is against strict Dade Co. codes since hurricane Andrew. This is a weak point and I only hope living a little in from the coast helps. Once a window or door is breached then the wind can get in and lift the roof.
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I would like to point out that many of the newer homes in The Villages have "poured in place" concrete walls with a thin "cement" finish (not stucco). This is different from concrete block walls with a stucco finish. Personally, I prefer this type construction because it is less prone to damage than either stucco or vinyl siding.
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Old 03-18-2017, 05:25 PM
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Yes, Stonecrest does build stucco over wood frame. I personally do not like this method, as there have been problems with this method IF not done correctly. I have inspected some of these homes. Weep screeds are very important.

Hardi Plank siding is fine, as long as it is installed per manufacturers recommendations. Actually, it is over exterior wall sheathing, house wrap, then Hardi Plank. The biggest two problems with cement siding is treating the butt ends correctly, spacing the gapping correctly, and making sure the nails are not driven too deep. I inspected a home up North years ago where the builder used a nail gun set to high to install the siding, drove the nails through the siding and the siding started falling off all over the home because it really was not attached well at all.

I do not see wood siding much in Florida, or in The Villages.

You do not find step cracking in solid poured concrete homes. I do however find vertical cracking.

You can always count on concrete to get hard, and to crack.

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Old 03-18-2017, 06:28 PM
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I live in block CYV. I'm still young enough to do most maintenance. I sealed and painted my house cost was 3 to 4 gallons of paint. Tub of sealer and about 14 hours labor rolling it on. So IMO if you can roll paint not that expensive to paint. Now if you have contractor do it with the deluted spray paint figure 5 to 7 grand. As mentioned little harder to upgrade and hang stuff. Also reception for AM radio is near non existent unless you run antenna. I feel safer in block home coming from Oklahoma. Tornados usually not as big or often here, but when hiding in the closet at least have walls protection unless it cat 3 or bigger. In Oklahoma I've seen nothing left except concrete slabs. Even sucked assault off the streets.
My friend had her Gardenia block and stucco home painted for $1200. I believe it included any crack sealing.
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Thank you all for the info
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