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judynlee 06-19-2011 06:14 PM

The Vachons
 
Omigosh, I know these people. I knew them from NH and hven't seen them for many years-didn't know they were in TV. I see they lived in Duval but they are not in the phone book. Now, apparently Homer has died and I feel terrible that I can't contact Linda. I realize she is in the hospital now but could you pm me if you know their address or phone number-or maybe the friends', so that I could contact them?

Thank you so much!

Bill-n-Brillo 06-19-2011 06:19 PM

Sad to hear he passed - very unfortunate. Our condolences go out to the family - - -

Bill

skip0358 06-19-2011 08:53 PM

Very Sad
 
Just a reminder to all. Know where your going and night driving is much different then daytime driving!!

Bosoxfan 06-19-2011 09:00 PM

Sorry
 
This is so tragic. My heart is breaking for the family& friends of these folks.Does anyone know a way I can find out the names of the people involved. I play a lot of softball including one season for the Duval neighborhood team & know quite a few people from there.I'm up north for the summer so this info is hard to come by.

Becky 06-19-2011 09:24 PM

Names
 
Homer and Linda Vachon.

dhdennie 06-19-2011 09:34 PM

village
 
The couple lives in the village of Bonita.

Russ_Boston 06-19-2011 09:34 PM

If my count is right that makes 10 golf cart fatalities (POA reported 9 in a previous issue). And to my knowledge, and the writings of others, all the fatalities were caused by some form of ejection from the cart and the drivers hitting their heads on the pavement or the other vehicle.

Is Sgt. Wolfe still going to claim that seat belts should not be used in golf carts in TV? Does anyone know him well enough to bring the stats to him and ask?

I'm a results guy and so far it seems that using seat belts far outweigh not using them based on the real world experiences in TV. Not some old safety film they show about cart roll-overs.

chuckinca 06-19-2011 10:03 PM

Helmets might be a good idea too.


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ilovetv 06-19-2011 10:13 PM

Article link on golf cart passenger ejection
 
Engineering info on Golf Cart Passenger Ejection:
http://technology-assoc.com/articles...t-hazards.html

chuckinca 06-20-2011 09:27 AM

States in part:

"CPSC injury statistics indicate that approximately 40% of all golf car related accidents involve children (i.e. age < 16) and 50% of these involve a fall from a moving car. As a result, children represent a dramatically large portion of all ejection accident victims."



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hdh1470 06-20-2011 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 363969)
Engineering info on Golf Cart Passenger Ejection:
http://technology-assoc.com/articles...t-hazards.html

I can see the point of seatbelts but if being hit by a car i would rather be thrown out.You have no chance with belts you would be killed and in a closed casket.But maybe all carts should have them to give people their choice.

drbales 06-23-2011 01:04 PM

Why anyone drives any type of golf cart (street legal or not) on the streets and mixes it up with autos is beyond me. The auto will win every time.

2BNTV 06-23-2011 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Becky (Post 363954)
Homer and Linda Vachon.

How sad this happened. Prayers and thoughts to the family.

rubicon 06-23-2011 02:44 PM

It appears from various comments that some people do not effect defensive driving protocols Carts may be pleasure vehicles but they still can result in human pain and suffering and property damage

2BNTV 06-23-2011 03:31 PM

I remember taking a defensive driving course that was sponsored by the company I worked as mandatory for all employees driving company vehicles.

The speaker was a police officer. Wearing a seat belt was optional at the time but he strongly suggested wearing one. I'll never forget that he stated,
"I never unbuckled a dead person".

It makes me sad that one could make a fatal mistake and caused themselves and love ones so much sorrow.

This episode will cause me to be extra careful while on a golf cart in TV.

Annabelle 06-23-2011 03:44 PM

I am very sad to read of this terrible tragedy in The Villages.
I am also shocked that anyone would insert such a tasteless joke (page 3) within such a serious thread. That was disgraceful and totally inappropriate.

My sympathy to the family and friends of this couple.

Annabelle 06-23-2011 04:04 PM

Correction to my last post

page 3 #19

chuckster 06-23-2011 04:56 PM

.............imho a little humor softens the harshness of reality.........and it's page 2 #19:popcorn:

Russ_Boston 06-23-2011 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckster (Post 364951)
.............imho a little humor softens the harshness of reality.........and it's page 2 #19:popcorn:

pages vary by user (for me it's page 1) but it's #19 in this thread regardless.

kentucky blue 06-23-2011 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 364931)
I remember taking a defensive driving course that was sponsored by the company I worked as mandatory for all employees driving company vehicles.

The speaker was a police officer. Wearing a seat belt was optional at the time but he strongly suggested wearing one. I'll never forget that he stated,
"I never unbuckled a dead person".

It makes me sad that one could make a fatal mistake and caused themselves and love ones so much sorrow.

This episode will cause me to be extra careful while on a golf cart in TV.

That police officer must have worked only a few accidents, or been really lucky. In Lexington, we have had several dead people still wearing their seat belts, two were friends from college.

jblum315 06-24-2011 12:05 AM

Well, there are golf cart trails along Buena Vista south of 466A:undecided:





Quote:

Originally Posted by ajbrown (Post 363169)
One has to wonder how the heck a golf cart got south of 466A on BV? Maybe it was an LSV or they were VERY lost? Not important to the folks or their families, but makes me wonder.....


jebartle 06-24-2011 08:52 AM

Oh, no!
 
Soooo sad.....

spk7951 06-24-2011 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jblum315 (Post 365054)
Well, there are golf cart trails along Buena Vista south of 466A:undecided:


And they are currently barricaded to prevent golf carts from using them. Why have them open to the public when there is really no place to go to yet?

rubicon 06-24-2011 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kentucky blue (Post 365033)
That police officer must have worked only a few accidents, or been really lucky. In Lexington, we have had several dead people still wearing their seat belts, two were friends from college.

Me too .....In fact can tell you in some cases that seat belts were directly the cause of serious injury or death.

Seat belts prevent people from being thrown from a vehicle. they also reduce interior collision wherein people are through agains doors, roofs, etc.
This can be a fortuitious or not.

Having said that I will not leave my driveway without buckling up.

However suggesting that seat belts be mandatory for golf carts is fraught with problems and logistics...and may only provide a false positive when it comes to protection and safety

gmcneill 06-24-2011 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spk7951 (Post 365166)
And they are currently barricaded to prevent golf carts from using them. Why have them open to the public when there is really no place to go to yet?

A neighbor and I were discussing this matter today. He told me that the golf cart was street legal.

I don't know if that is accurate or not. But if so, that explains the cart in that area.
Driving southbound in northbound lanes is inexplicable.

Regardless of any and all factors, it's still tragedy for all concerned, including the driver of the "other vehicle" who will forever be traumatized by horrific mental pictures and emotional/psychological damages.

Flip Flop Forever 06-24-2011 09:40 PM

Very sad
 
According to the newspaper, the victim's wife was driving the cart. My heart goes out to her. What a terrible tragedy.

graciegirl 06-25-2011 02:17 AM

Our villages rep had sold them their home. He was so sad when we worked with him this week. He told us that they were such a lovely couple.

No one knows for sure why they were there so late in the evening and I believe I understood that they were in the traffic circle going the wrong way.

They didn't know who they were for awhile at the hospital. The husband was airlifted to a hospital in Orlando and then later after assessment here, so was the wife.

I know that I don't take I.D. a lot of times just driving around in the golf cart.

My heartfelt sympathy to their family.

getdul981 06-25-2011 07:28 AM

I've been reading this thread for a while now and also feel that it's a sad, sad situation. No one really know how or why this happened. I noticed from the time on the emergency radio report that it was around 9 PM. My guess would be that someone, if not everyone was driving without their lights on. At that time of evening, it is not quite dark and lots of people don't use their lights until they can't see. I can understand people not using their lights if they have an electric cart. You'll run the batteries down quicker. This is another reason we purchased a gas cart. We use the lights day and night. Not necessarily to see, but to be seen.

Spyque50 07-01-2011 01:32 AM

Please update
 
Have heard of a golf cart being broadsided on St. Charles on or about 6/30/2011. Please post any details you may have. I have a home in TV but am on an assignment in the Middle East. Thank you

Irish Rover 07-01-2011 06:54 AM

Does anyone know how many people have died in golf cart accidents, and over what time period? Seems we are hearing it so much more now.

Larry Wilson 07-01-2011 08:05 AM

Irish,
There was a study done for safety in 1984 for the Villages. (My son worked with a team on it-he's an engineer) At that time there had been 10 fatalities and many, many more accidents with serious injuries. Have no idea what numbers would be today.

SALYBOW 07-01-2011 12:06 PM

I am going to Hijack this thread
 
My neighbor, Frank Calhoun, just died from injuries sustained in a golf cart accident yesterday at St. Charles and Southern Star. His cart was broadsided. Please join me in praying for his wife Nancy and her family. TY. :cryin2:

rubicon 07-01-2011 12:15 PM

Salybow: did this accidnt involve two golf carts or a car and a golfcart?

Bill-n-Brillo 07-01-2011 01:11 PM

Sad news. Thoughts and prayers are with the family.

Bill

FMF Doc 07-01-2011 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 367113)
Salybow: did this accidnt involve two golf carts or a car and a golfcart?

It appeared to involve a golf cart and a pick up truck pulling a trailer.

Raen Dear 07-01-2011 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FMF Doc (Post 367128)
It appeared to involve a golf cart and a pick up truck pulling a trailer.

We live in Southern Star Villas. It was a golf cart and a pickup. Don't know about the trailer. The police had blocked off Southern Star Way at St. Charles for quite a while. Later I saw the golf cart and pickup on flat bed haulers. The golf cart was bent, I guess you could say, and the truck appeared untouched. Don't know why the truck was being hauled away, maybe for evidence.

So sad and unnecessary.

I know a lot of us newbies don't realize the stops at St. Charles are NOT 4-way.

Tbugs 07-01-2011 02:25 PM

According to the Daily Sun article, the driver of the golf cart was thrown out and then run over and dragged by the pickup truck and trailer. It did not assign blame to either since there will be an investigation.

DebbieB 07-01-2011 02:47 PM

Prayers up for the family. So very, very sad. I am very sorry to hear this news.:cry:

Russ_Boston 07-01-2011 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tbugs (Post 367136)
the driver of the golf cart was thrown out and then run over and dragged by the pickup truck and trailer.

So sad again!

Let's send this one to Lt. Wolfe. Two in one month where the driver was thrown from the cart and THAT was probably the cause of death.

Don't care what Sumter County Sheriff dept. says - I'm getting belts in an upgraded seat.

Sounds like belts could have saved another TVer. So sad.

logdog 07-01-2011 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish Rover (Post 367010)
Does anyone know how many people have died in golf cart accidents, and over what time period? Seems we are hearing it so much more now.

Yesterday's POA Newsletter stated 10 deaths over 5 years. Tragic but not a lot for a community this size with 50,000 golf carts competing with cars and trucks.


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