I want to thank everyone for their responses (not the yankee fan tho lol).I wish there were a simple fix.Guess not.

[SteveFromNY]

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan

I want to thank everyone for their responses (not the yankee fan tho lol).I wish there were a simple fix.Guess not.

Thanks Bosoxfan - you really made me laugh and I could use it right now!

Happy New Year Steve!!

[SteveFromNY]

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan

Happy New Year Steve!!

Right back at you!!!!

[Russ_Boston]

good reply Frank - I wasn't aware of those options.

I guess it comes down to what resource you wish to waste. The energy for the recirculating pump or the cold water that runs out before the hot water arrives.

I like the idea of brushing my teeth in the sink with the 'cold' hot water. This is what I practice as well.

[faithfulfrank]

Russ,
I'm told that the energy for those pumps is less than a 25 watt light bulb.. You can set them to come on a few times a day, prior to your regular water usage.(like a shower, etc.)

Some of it is just bad habits. How many of us wash our hands at the bathroom sink with "hot" water, when there is no way that water is going to get hot by the time you are done. All one is doing then is putting hot water in those pipes, where it will sit and cool off. Is it now smarter to wash your hands in "Cold" water, especially in Florida, when "cold" is never "cold"...?

For me, I don't understand why my water cost is so much higher in Florida as it is in New York......Isn't there water like everywhere in Florida, like a couple of feet underground? The small tank heater I installed should not cost very much at all. It is super insulated, and is fed by the hot water line already, and is only 4 gallons....basically a holding tank more then a heater.

Frank...(freezing in NY)

[GeorgeIII]

Fascinating discussion. I hadn't known about the recirc pumps. Of course, here in NJ we don't have a water heater that stores hot water. Our oil burner has a coil in it for domestic hot water, and it heats the water on demand. So we not only have to wait for the hot water to make its way through the pipe, we have to wait for it to heat up, too. So we, too, brush our teeth while waiting for the hot water to arrive. We simply brush more slooowly. :-)

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston

good reply Frank - I wasn't aware of those options.

I guess it comes down to what resource you wish to waste. The energy for the recirculating pump or the cold water that runs out before the hot water arrives.

I like the idea of brushing my teeth in the sink with the 'cold' hot water. This is what I practice as well.

I want to thank everyone for their input.Brushing my teeth with "cold" hot water seems the easiest solution.HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

Where do these threads go after people stop replying to them?

[mulligan]

They languish in the forum list until someone adds something, which makes it new again. By the way, you're not missing anything in WORC. It' really depressing.

[tony]

And they make a great base of information for those who search for the topic of their choice.

[MaryEllen]

i believe that the real problem is > The Distance. The hot water has to travel too far from the heater> Solution > in the attic> go to the furthest hot water fixture and cut a tee in the hot water pipe > return that pipe back to the bottom of the water heater > you have to remove the drain valve> install a 3/4 short(brass) nipple ,Tee> Purchase a very small recirculating pump and install it so that it returns the water to the heater. BETTER CALL A PLUMBER.

[GatbTester]

And isn't a shame that in this day and age we must choose which resource to waste? Shame on the builders and developer for delivering such a thoughtless and non-cost efficient way of providing hot water for everyday needs efficiently.

[slcaud]

It comes down to POOR design. I cannot believe in an area suffering from chronic drought that the pipes under the slabs are not insulated. That's all it would really take. So to the village designers or maybe county building inspectors. The code should be upgraded to require insulation of all under slab water piping. Cripes it would cost less that $100 (probably less than $50) to insulate all the pipes.

[Zass38]

i have installed "point of use" water heaters at my faucets....this leaves only the shower. these units cost about $175 each, run on a 110VAC outlet and are really easy to install, provided there is an outlet nearby, such as in the bathrooms. The response for host water is "instant" and you only pay for electricity used to heat the amount of water you use at the faucet.